Kevin Love Trade thread pt. III

mondry · Post #1901 » by **mondry** » Sat Jun 28, 2014 5:02 am

as poor a value as the Denver trade is, I'd like to see Faried play with this young lineup of Dieng, Rubio, Lavine, GR3 etc. Talk about motor, hustle, and athleticism, would be fun to watch!

Mattya · Post #1902 » by **Mattya** » Sat Jun 28, 2014 5:18 am

mondry wrote:as poor a value as the Denver trade is, I'd like to see Faried play with this young lineup of Dieng, Rubio, Lavine, GR3 etc. Talk about motor, hustle, and athleticism, would be fun to watch!

I actually think the Denver trade's value improved after the draft. Would still demand Gallo though.

Takingbaconback · Post #1903 » by **Takingbaconback** » Sat Jun 28, 2014 5:24 am

mondry wrote:as poor a value as the Denver trade is, I'd like to see Faried play with this young lineup of Dieng, Rubio, Lavine, GR3 etc. Talk about motor, hustle, and athleticism, would be fun to watch!

Looks good to me too but you gotta wonder why Denver would make the trade. Seems very likely Love would go elsewhere in FA

Streakers33 · Post #1904 » by **Streakers33** » Sat Jun 28, 2014 10:40 am

colincb wrote:
mercgold3 wrote:In the Celtics board, they think that can give us Green and Bradley + Sully or KO to get Love.
No Smart or J.Young.

Not sure what board you're looking at, but most C fans think we're not in the running after the draft ended.

I think flip can hold out here. Seriously. No picks this year to bog down. Talks. Wait till July..
We need a back up pg. it's either Bradley or smart. Their pick
We need a pf or two so we take sully and olynik.
We need two future picks. Nets won't be bad so I'm happy with any picks. One each in 2015&2016
So Bradley 6-8, sully-2, olynik-2, = 10-12 million.
For love and lmam= 20 million.

They keep green. Cuz now they need his production. And they if they need Bradley to win now. They give up smart. Right ?? And if they need an offensive sg Martin is super available. Give us a happy meal. And we call it even. And we trade LMAM cuz I feel he is hardest of sf to deal away. Log jam partially solved

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Streakers33 · Post #1905 » by **Streakers33** » Sat Jun 28, 2014 10:43 am

But I still on belief that keeping love and over paying for gasol solves our problems.....

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rickrolled · Post #1906 » by **rickrolled** » Sat Jun 28, 2014 8:54 pm

Who do you prefer, Smart on a rookie deal or Klay Thompson on a max contract next year ?

Klay is 24, Smart is 20.

Smart
Sullinger
Bass
Bogans
Anthony
LAC pick
BKN '16

for Love

BOS gets: Love, Henderson

MIN gets: The package above

CHA gets: Kevin Martin

I'd take Henderson's 2 year 12 million but not Martin, CHA need offense, SAC stole Stauskas at 9 from CHA so that's plausible.

Saltine · Post #1907 » by **Saltine** » Sat Jun 28, 2014 9:47 pm

we already have 14 guys under contract, having 17 is kind of ludicrous... we don't need another PG...

Post #1908 » by **Worm Guts** » Sat Jun 28, 2014 10:17 pm

Saltine wrote:we already have 14 guys under contract, having 17 is kind of ludicrous... we don't need another PG...

We're most likely going to end up with that type of situation after any Love trade.

rickrolled · Post #1909 » by **rickrolled** » Sat Jun 28, 2014 10:42 pm

^Smart is a SG

AQuintus · Post #1910 » by **AQuintus** » Sat Jun 28, 2014 10:46 pm

rickrolled wrote:^Smart is a SG

He's a combo guard, and he'll be playing PG this upcoming season after Rondo is traded (and he will be).

HitmanCapone · Post #1911 » by **HitmanCapone** » Sun Jun 29, 2014 12:34 am

rickrolled wrote:Who do you prefer, Smart on a rookie deal or Klay Thompson on a max contract next year ?

Klay is 24, Smart is 20.

Smart
Sullinger
Bass
Bogans
Anthony
LAC pick
BKN '16

for Love

BOS gets: Love, Henderson

MIN gets: The package above

CHA gets: Kevin Martin

I'd take Henderson's 2 year 12 million but not Martin, CHA need offense, SAC stole Stauskas at 9 from CHA so that's plausible.

I would do this trade if we swapped Bass for Green

Saltine · Post #1912 » by **Saltine** » Sun Jun 29, 2014 2:10 am

rickrolled wrote:^Smart is a SG

He's a 6'2" PG.

bs_and_cs · Post #1913 » by **bs_and_cs** » Sun Jun 29, 2014 6:14 am

AQuintus wrote:
rickrolled wrote:^Smart is a SG

He's a combo guard, and he'll be playing PG this upcoming season after Rondo is traded (and he will be).

Disagree. I think the Celtics keep Rondo.

Saltine wrote:
rickrolled wrote:^Smart is a SG

He's a 6'2" PG.

He's 6'3" with a 6'9" wing spam. A combo guard.

Just for reference Zach LaVine's wingspan was 6'8.5"

AQuintus · Post #1914 » by **AQuintus** » Sun Jun 29, 2014 6:18 am

bs_and_cs wrote:
Disagree. I think the Celtics keep Rondo.

Why would they? They apparently struck out on trading for Love, so now their best move is to go full-on rebuild.

bs_and_cs · Post #1915 » by **bs_and_cs** » Sun Jun 29, 2014 6:21 am

AQuintus wrote:
bs_and_cs wrote:
Disagree. I think the Celtics keep Rondo.

Why would they? They apparently struck out on trading for Love, so now their best move is to go full-on rebuild.

Because they are going to have $30 million in cap space in the offseason, even more if they can move Gerald Wallace's albatross of a contract that is expiring at that point with some incentive.

Rondo says he likes Boston, says he wants to re-sign here. So I'd rather take my chances and try to re-sign him in the offseason with the hopes of luring anything star to play with Smart, Rondo and then see them use the rest of their assets and another likely lottery pick next year for a 3rd star.

Certainly worth the risk to me. And Danny Ainge is the ultimate risk taker as a GM.

Streakers33 · Post #1916 » by **Streakers33** » Sun Jun 29, 2014 6:23 am

HitmanCapone wrote:
rickrolled wrote:Who do you prefer, Smart on a rookie deal or Klay Thompson on a max contract next year ?

Klay is 24, Smart is 20.

Smart
Sullinger
Bass. Or humphries
Bogans
Anthony
LAC pick
BKN '16

for Love

BOS gets: Love, Henderson

MIN gets: The package above

CHA gets: Kevin Martin

I'd take Henderson's 2 year 12 million but not Martin, CHA need offense, SAC stole Stauskas at 9 from CHA so that's plausible.

I would do this trade if we swapped Bass for Green

^^ no swapping bass for green. We have too many sf on roster.

Otherwise I like it. Could add humphries S&T instead of bass and even be ok with his 10/10 a night. I'd be ok with home town kid coming full swing back to us.

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Saltine · Post #1917 » by **Saltine** » Sun Jun 29, 2014 8:16 am

bs_and_cs wrote:
He's 6'3" with a 6'9" wing spam. A combo guard.

6'2"

height in shoes is total BS.

http://www.draftexpress.com/nba-pre-dra ... All&sort=2

He made a below average 28.4% of his jump shots in the half court... Shooting 30.3% from the perimeter off the catch and 28.8% off the dribble, Smart has plenty of room to grow as a jump-shooter....

http://www.draftexpress.com/profile/Marcus-Smart-6284/
PG

bluethunder0005 · Post #1918 » by **bluethunder0005** » Sun Jun 29, 2014 12:52 pm

Saltine wrote:
bs_and_cs wrote:
He's 6'3" with a 6'9" wing spam. A combo guard.

6'2"

height in shoes is total BS.

http://www.draftexpress.com/nba-pre-dra ... All&sort=2
He made a below average 28.4% of his jump shots in the half court... Shooting 30.3% from the perimeter off the catch and 28.8% off the dribble, Smart has plenty of room to grow as a jump-shooter....

http://www.draftexpress.com/profile/Marcus-Smart-6284/
PG

Height in shoes is all that matters, seeing as how 90% of players are listed at that height and they all wear shoes while playing. However, I do agree that Smart is a PG but I think could survive at SG depending on who the PG was. Him and Rondo don't fit at all though.

ShermansShoes · Post #1919 » by **ShermansShoes** » Sun Jun 29, 2014 2:14 pm

AQuintus wrote:
rickrolled wrote:^Smart is a SG

He's a combo guard, and he'll be playing PG this upcoming season after Rondo is traded (and he will be).

http://redsarmy.com/2014/06/28/your-mor ... cap-space/

Assuming again they are unable to bring in a major player to pair with Rondo, one source confirmed the Celtics would sooner let him walk away than accept a deal that bogs down their salary sheet just to “get something for him.” If they decide trading Rondo is the best course of action, they will dig in and either get what they need to enhance their rebuilding, or they will let him go and take the cap space benefit.

bs_and_cs · Post #1920 » by **bs_and_cs** » Sun Jun 29, 2014 2:42 pm

bluethunder0005 wrote:
Saltine wrote:
bs_and_cs wrote:
He's 6'3" with a 6'9" wing spam. A combo guard.

6'2"

height in shoes is total BS.

http://www.draftexpress.com/nba-pre-dra ... All&sort=2
He made a below average 28.4% of his jump shots in the half court... Shooting 30.3% from the perimeter off the catch and 28.8% off the dribble, Smart has plenty of room to grow as a jump-shooter....

http://www.draftexpress.com/profile/Marcus-Smart-6284/
PG

Height in shoes is all that matters, seeing as how 90% of players are listed at that height and they all wear shoes while playing. However, I do agree that Smart is a PG but I think could survive at SG depending on who the PG was. Him and Rondo don't fit at all though.

I think Smart can play point and thrive at it. But is he being called a PG solely cause of his shooting percentages in college? Or because of his height?