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Poll: Who should the Wolves take with the #1 overall pick?

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Who should the Wolves take with the #1 overall pick?

Okafor
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Towns
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Re: Poll: Who should the Wolves take with the #1 overall pick? 

Post#1921 » by Takingbaconback » Sat Jun 6, 2015 10:10 pm

jpatrick wrote:Lots of video of Mudiay's Laker workout. He's young and can improve, but that shot does not look smooth to me.

[youtube]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BueCQgmdu-Y[/youtube]


WCS has a better stroke than that. Can somebody who has extensively watched Mudiay tell me why he is being considered as a top tier prospect? His passes were pretty good in the highlights but didn't see anything spectacular. Terrible ft% to boot.

Is it wrong to think he is being carried by the immense high school hype which cannot be validated by playing in a Chinese league?
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Re: Poll: Who should the Wolves take with the #1 overall pick? 

Post#1922 » by urinesane » Sat Jun 6, 2015 10:19 pm

jpatrick wrote:Lots of video of Mudiay's Laker workout. He's young and can improve, but that shot does not look smooth to me.

[youtube]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BueCQgmdu-Y[/youtube]


Lol, no way Wolves are interested at #1.

I could see him falling and WCS moving up based on workouts.
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Post#1923 » by sfernald » Sat Jun 6, 2015 10:35 pm

Takingbaconback wrote:
jpatrick wrote:Lots of video of Mudiay's Laker workout. He's young and can improve, but that shot does not look smooth to me.

[youtube]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BueCQgmdu-Y[/youtube]


WCS has a better stroke than that. Can somebody who has extensively watched Mudiay tell me why he is being considered as a top tier prospect? His passes were pretty good in the highlights but didn't see anything spectacular. Terrible ft% to boot.

Is it wrong to think he is being carried by the immense high school hype which cannot be validated by playing in a Chinese league?


He's a baller. Some guys you just really have to watch in-game to evaluate properly. Extremely aggressive driver to the rim. Great passing and great playmaking. Think tony parker with more athleticism possibly. Although not Westbrook athleticism as some claimed.
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Re: Poll: Who should the Wolves take with the #1 overall pick? 

Post#1924 » by Devilzsidewalk » Sat Jun 6, 2015 11:25 pm

Takingbaconback wrote:
jpatrick wrote:Lots of video of Mudiay's Laker workout. He's young and can improve, but that shot does not look smooth to me.

[youtube]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BueCQgmdu-Y[/youtube]


WCS has a better stroke than that. Can somebody who has extensively watched Mudiay tell me why he is being considered as a top tier prospect? His passes were pretty good in the highlights but didn't see anything spectacular. Terrible ft% to boot.

Is it wrong to think he is being carried by the immense high school hype which cannot be validated by playing in a Chinese league?


check out 4:40 mark - just need to make sure all his shots are right corner threes
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Post#1925 » by SprintTMC » Sat Jun 6, 2015 11:26 pm

Towns. Rim protection is at a premium in the league nowadays, and we have a number of players who already operate in the post (Wiggins, Bazz, Pek).
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Post#1926 » by TRKO » Sat Jun 6, 2015 11:39 pm

I'm not going to pretend to know a lot about Mudiay because my knowledge just comes from a little bit of youtube. It has to be hard for a 18/19 year old kid to go over to China. He gets props for that. He has very good size and athleticism. It seems like he has a second gear speed wise. If he had a jump shot he would be a serious contender for the first pick. Tony Parker wasn't always a good shooter, but he developed. Jason Kidd never became a good shooter. The problem is we already have a PG that does everything well but shoot. I would keep Rubio over him unless his medical future looks bleak.
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Re: Poll: Who should the Wolves take with the #1 overall pick? 

Post#1927 » by The J Rocka » Sun Jun 7, 2015 12:15 am

TRKO wrote:The problem is we already have a PG that does everything well but shoot. I would keep Rubio over him unless his medical future looks bleak.

He also needs to do a better job finishing at the rim. At least Mudiay has proved he can finish.

With that being said, I'm all for keeping Rubio if there's no clear upgrade available to us.
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Post#1928 » by Merc_Porto » Sun Jun 7, 2015 12:41 am

There is the ones that say that this is a no brainer, pick Towns.

There is the ones that say either its a win win situacion.

Nobody says cleary that Okafor should be no.1.

For some reason...
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Post#1929 » by Klomp » Sun Jun 7, 2015 12:50 am

mercgold3 wrote:For some reason...

Because some people are level-headed enough to complement one player without tearing apart the other.
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Post#1930 » by iamworthy » Sun Jun 7, 2015 12:57 am

props to you guys for this thread. It's a wealth of information. You guys are on point with the latest and greatest information :beer:
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Post#1931 » by Merc_Porto » Sun Jun 7, 2015 12:58 am

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mercgold3 wrote:For some reason...

Because some people are level-headed enough to complement one player without tearing apart the other.


Yeah, same happend with the discussion of ROY.
But...
That doesnt mean Wiggins wasnt the obvious choice.
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Post#1932 » by TRKO » Sun Jun 7, 2015 1:03 am

mercgold3 wrote:
Klomp wrote:
mercgold3 wrote:For some reason...

Because some people are level-headed enough to complement one player without tearing apart the other.


Yeah, same happend with the discussion of ROY.
But...
That doesnt mean Wiggins wasnt the obvious choice.

Two different arguments. Had Parker and Embiid not got hurt and had good rookie seasons it may not have been as clear cut and it could have been a toss up. If Flip feels he can get Okafor to be solid on the defensive end, his offense is so good he would be a great first round selection. Russell fits the mold of a three point shooting skilled PG in a G dominated league. If you are going with the trend he would be a great selection. I find it hard to believe that Towns has separated himself from Okafor and Russell that much.
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Post#1933 » by Klomp » Sun Jun 7, 2015 1:06 am

Is it me or did he look really uncomfortable here?

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Post#1934 » by Klomp » Sun Jun 7, 2015 1:09 am

mercgold3 wrote:Yeah, same happend with the discussion of ROY.
But...
That doesnt mean Wiggins wasnt the obvious choice.

You mean the people who tried to extrapolate per36 numbers to show Mirotic should've been ROY? You're right, it's the same argument you've been making the last few pages about Towns.
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Post#1935 » by Merc_Porto » Sun Jun 7, 2015 1:17 am

Klomp wrote:You mean the people who tried to extrapolate per36 numbers to show Mirotic should've been ROY? You're right, it's the same argument you've been making the last few pages about Towns.


No, im talking about tearin apart the other player to make your point about my / your preference.

Look, i said before, Okafor is a great prospect.

But this is the no.1 pick.
And yes, i think the gap is huge between Towns and Okafor.

That doesnt mean im tearing apart Okafor. I just think Towns is the better prospect. Way better IMO.

Like Wiggins was the best ROY.
Doesnt mean Mirotic / Noel were horrible.

Just means that Wiggins was better.
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Post#1936 » by Murphs56 » Sun Jun 7, 2015 1:32 am

Klomp wrote:Is it me or did he look really uncomfortable here?

[youtube]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EeGxpWoJfSc[/youtube]


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Post#1937 » by Klomp » Sun Jun 7, 2015 1:34 am

At this point, the discussion is probably a moot point. The best news Towns supporters could hope for happened today: Saunders will watch Towns work out. That is seriously huge, because it will be hard to not fall in love with Towns' game once he sees him in person.

I think he will watch Towns and see parallels with KG. And with how well that worked out the first time, I don't think he'll be able to pass up the opportunity.
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Post#1938 » by Note30 » Sun Jun 7, 2015 2:06 am

Klomp wrote:At this point, the discussion is probably a moot point. The best news Towns supporters could hope for happened today: Saunders will watch Towns work out. That is seriously huge, because it will be hard to not fall in love with Towns' game once he sees him in person.

I think he will watch Towns and see parallels with KG. And with how well that worked out the first time, I don't think he'll be able to pass up the opportunity.


or not. If there is one thing Towns is not, its fluid. The guy doesn't look like he can make the baskets he does, and his footwork is horrible. That's the one area where Okafor looks so much better.

If Towns and Okafor were one player with all of their strengths they would potentially be an Olajuwon level player.

Towns has a jumpshot, good FT%, really good defense, and decent lateral movement (not great, but decent).
Okafor has all them postmoves, and really good footwork, high IQ (although this can be said for Towns as well, just not as much) and IMO better fundamentals.
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Post#1939 » by TRKO » Sun Jun 7, 2015 2:14 am

Klomp wrote:At this point, the discussion is probably a moot point. The best news Towns supporters could hope for happened today: Saunders will watch Towns work out. That is seriously huge, because it will be hard to not fall in love with Towns' game once he sees him in person.

I think he will watch Towns and see parallels with KG. And with how well that worked out the first time, I don't think he'll be able to pass up the opportunity.

I think too many people are assuming that Okafor can't really impress in a workout either. A big man with that footwork, finishing ability, touch, handles...that's going to be impressive. When he sees the massive size of Okafor to go along with all those skills he will be impressed.
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Post#1940 » by Klomp » Sun Jun 7, 2015 2:17 am

One thing Towns does in the post is he makes quick decisions.

On game tape alone, I agree Towns isn't the most fluid player. But then again, we have to remember that he's 7 feet tall and almost 250 lbs. Fluid athletes at that size are few and far between.
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