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Re: The Naz Reid Thread

Posted: Mon Jul 15, 2019 11:49 am
by packforfreedom
minimus wrote:Am I the only one who thinks that Reid has kind of high center of gravity?


he has. I think that's part of his rebounding struggles. Great rebounders often have a low center of gravity.

but speaking of gravity (this time in terms of how multiple defender are focused on one player): Reid has that as well. It's because of his ballhandling skills. Bigmen who put the ball on the floor tend to have high gravity. Combine this with passing skills and the ability to score and you have a weapon on offense.

Re: The Naz Reid Thread

Posted: Mon Jul 15, 2019 2:02 pm
by KGdaBom
Worm Guts wrote:As a big, if you can’t rebound or play defense, it’s pretty tough to hold a spot in the rotation.

Then he will rebound and play defense. Some say KAT doesn't play defense
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Re: The Naz Reid Thread

Posted: Mon Jul 15, 2019 2:04 pm
by Dewey
packforfreedom wrote:
minimus wrote:Am I the only one who thinks that Reid has kind of high center of gravity?


he has. I think that's part of his rebounding struggles. Great rebounders often have a low center of gravity.

but speaking of gravity (this time in terms of how multiple defender are focused on one player): Reid has that as well. It's because of his ballhandling skills. Bigmen who put the ball on the floor tend to have high gravity. Combine this with passing skills and the ability to score and you have a weapon on offense.

If his pt depends on rebounding he will likely rebound better.

Lots of bigs dont develop great positioning cause they are always bigger than the other guy growing up, and if that aau coach and college coach were more about scoring (which is common), then he simply has not been held accountable. He's thick enough and strong enough, but he's gonna have to learn to outwork his opponent enough to get on the floor and stay on the floor

Re: The Naz Reid Thread

Posted: Mon Jul 15, 2019 4:44 pm
by Klomp
Dewey wrote:Lots of bigs dont develop great positioning cause they are always bigger than the other guy growing up, and if that aau coach and college coach were more about scoring (which is common), then he simply has not been held accountable. He's thick enough and strong enough, but he's gonna have to learn to outwork his opponent enough to get on the floor and stay on the floor

He had a major growth spurt in middle school that moved him from 5'10" to 6'7" between 7th and 9th grade. So he's really only had like 4 years as the bigger guy.

Re: The Naz Reid Thread

Posted: Mon Jul 15, 2019 6:04 pm
by Jedzz
Klomp wrote:
Dewey wrote:Lots of bigs dont develop great positioning cause they are always bigger than the other guy growing up, and if that aau coach and college coach were more about scoring (which is common), then he simply has not been held accountable. He's thick enough and strong enough, but he's gonna have to learn to outwork his opponent enough to get on the floor and stay on the floor

He had a major growth spurt in middle school that moved him from 5'10" to 6'7" between 7th and 9th grade. So he's really only had like 4 years as the bigger guy.


One day someone needs to write a book that documents what all these kids that have these huge growth spurts were up to, or not up to, during the time of their insane growth spells. So many examples of short parents with Towers for children. I can imagine there is a lot of kids growing up playing basketball that would love to emulate every little thing some of these guys did to attempt to earn the growth spurt as well.

Re: The Naz Reid Thread

Posted: Mon Jul 15, 2019 7:06 pm
by Nick K
I like Naz. He has real skills. The problem is he's heavy and out of shape. He needs refinement. I'd like to see him spend an entire season on our G league team where he gets plenty of work in under trained eyes. He really needs that because up here he will sit and not get the reps.

Re: The Naz Reid Thread

Posted: Mon Jul 15, 2019 9:29 pm
by gandlogo
Nick K wrote:I like Naz. He has real skills. The problem is he's heavy and out of shape. He needs refinement. I'd like to see him spend an entire season on our G league team where he gets plenty of work in under trained eyes. He really needs that because up here he will sit and not get the reps.


But up here he'd also get a ton of practice reps against KAT and Dieng - nothing like them in Iowa or any part of the G League. Despite what AI thinks, I think practice is way more important to development than playing games. Hopefully he gets an appropriate mixture of both.

Re: The Naz Reid Thread

Posted: Mon Jul 15, 2019 9:34 pm
by Klomp
gandlogo wrote:
Nick K wrote:I like Naz. He has real skills. The problem is he's heavy and out of shape. He needs refinement. I'd like to see him spend an entire season on our G league team where he gets plenty of work in under trained eyes. He really needs that because up here he will sit and not get the reps.


But up here he'd also get a ton of practice reps against KAT and Dieng - nothing like them in Iowa or any part of the G League. Despite what AI thinks, I think practice is way more important to development than playing games. Hopefully he gets an appropriate mixture of both.

NBA teams don't get as much actual practice time as one might think. Usually it's only when there's multiple days off between games.

Re: The Naz Reid Thread

Posted: Mon Jul 15, 2019 10:14 pm
by SO_MONEY
I think given his age and offensive skill a cheap, team friendly, three or four year deal with team options might be a good idea just to maintain Bird rights should we want them. This year and next not a big deal taking on a minor salary. I don't think he will amount to anything, I think he is a low motivation player, but better to cover your losses and not lose big.

Re: The Naz Reid Thread

Posted: Tue Jul 16, 2019 3:16 am
by Nick K
gandlogo wrote:
Nick K wrote:I like Naz. He has real skills. The problem is he's heavy and out of shape. He needs refinement. I'd like to see him spend an entire season on our G league team where he gets plenty of work in under trained eyes. He really needs that because up here he will sit and not get the reps.


But up here he'd also get a ton of practice reps against KAT and Dieng - nothing like them in Iowa or any part of the G League. Despite what AI thinks, I think practice is way more important to development than playing games. Hopefully he gets an appropriate mixture of both.


Sorry but saying that is ridiculous. Please don't say that again.

Re: The Naz Reid Thread

Posted: Tue Jul 16, 2019 3:20 am
by Worm Guts
Nick K wrote:
gandlogo wrote:
Nick K wrote:I like Naz. He has real skills. The problem is he's heavy and out of shape. He needs refinement. I'd like to see him spend an entire season on our G league team where he gets plenty of work in under trained eyes. He really needs that because up here he will sit and not get the reps.


But up here he'd also get a ton of practice reps against KAT and Dieng - nothing like them in Iowa or any part of the G League. Despite what AI thinks, I think practice is way more important to development than playing games. Hopefully he gets an appropriate mixture of both.


Sorry but saying that is ridiculous. Please don't say that again.


I don’t think it’s ridiculous, it depends on what part of your game needs work. Certain skills need practice.

Re: The Naz Reid Thread

Posted: Tue Jul 16, 2019 3:58 am
by gandlogo
Nick K wrote:
gandlogo wrote:
Nick K wrote:I like Naz. He has real skills. The problem is he's heavy and out of shape. He needs refinement. I'd like to see him spend an entire season on our G league team where he gets plenty of work in under trained eyes. He really needs that because up here he will sit and not get the reps.


But up here he'd also get a ton of practice reps against KAT and Dieng - nothing like them in Iowa or any part of the G League. Despite what AI thinks, I think practice is way more important to development than playing games. Hopefully he gets an appropriate mixture of both.


Sorry but saying that is ridiculous. Please don't say that again.


Read what I actually said. Development, as in individual player development, is best done in practice. Even the use of video from games is part of development done as part of practice and usually one of the most important teaching tools available. Hell, football and basketball often video the practices to go back and learn from those sessions as well. And last time I checked skills like dribbling and shooting are honed in practice and applied in games. Even as a high schooler Larry Bird understood this simple concept and would shoot 500 free throws everyday before school. I’m guessing that helped him become a better in game shooter. So despite your attempt at using manners, I will never back away from my assertion.

Re: The Naz Reid Thread

Posted: Tue Jul 16, 2019 4:04 am
by Klomp
BTW Rosas has already gone on record that if young guys aren't playing on the NBA club, they're gonna be in the G League.

Re: The Naz Reid Thread

Posted: Tue Jul 16, 2019 1:49 pm
by Slim Tubby
Klomp wrote:BTW Rosas has already gone on record that if young guys aren't playing on the NBA club, they're gonna be in the G League.


Good...as it should be. You can't really develop with wood blisters in your butt.

Re: The Naz Reid Thread

Posted: Wed Jul 17, 2019 8:05 am
by Klomp
Everyone is excited about the big man from LSU, and rightfully so. Reid showed a little bit of everything in Vegas, from fancy footwork to a natural 3-point stroke and some toughness inside.

The former quarterback can pass it, too.

“That’s still in my game,” Reid said with a smile. “I look for others before I look for scoring. I’m more unselfish.”


https://theathletic.com/1079154/2019/07/16/take-it-or-leave-it-the-glimpses-of-the-timberwolves-that-were-gained-in-las-vegas/

Re: The Naz Reid Thread

Posted: Thu Jul 18, 2019 3:53 pm
by minimus
Read on Twitter


Multi-year? Great! I thought that he is on one year two way deal.

Re: The Naz Reid Thread

Posted: Thu Jul 18, 2019 4:08 pm
by minimus
Read on Twitter


Good job Rosas! Exactly these type of deals I expect from him

Re: The Naz Reid Thread

Posted: Thu Jul 18, 2019 4:11 pm
by shrink
Nice. Good introductory interview too. All three sound good.

Re: The Naz Reid Thread

Posted: Thu Jul 18, 2019 4:19 pm
by Calinks
Hope it pans out. Does this mean we have another two way contract to spend now? Who do you think will get it? One of the summer league guys?

Re: The Naz Reid Thread

Posted: Thu Jul 18, 2019 4:20 pm
by Dewey
I like it ... has some nice skills. Give him a guarenteed year to see if he will commit to conditioning needed in NBA, else cut him loose next summer...