Wiggins: "There's not 100 players better than me"

[Jedzz]

What could Teague + Wiggins + Okogie and some draft picks bring us... (selling high on Okogie)

Something tells me Buddy Heild is unattainable.

Nothing.

Well wtf... here we are.. Once again. How long until KAT wants out? I give it a year at most. Maybe not even that. We will start hearing 'rumors' by mid season.

I feel ya. Teague + Wiggins + Okogie could maybe be alright for the bench lineup from bench minutes. Won't happen.

[LibertyPrime]

Just start Culver and run Wiggins with the second unit. From what (little, admittedly) I've seen Culver has been outplaying Wiggins anyway, and we didn't draft Culver with the #6 pick just to have him come off the bench.

As for Wiggins, either he gets mad enough to improve/starts smashing the other team's scrubs or he gets mad enough to get his agent to call for a trade. Doesn't matter if he does get mad; he's not part of our future anymore. Either is preferable to the status quo.

[Rookie-Mistake]

Wow.. how the hell are we gonna get rid of this guy? If the casual fan thinks that he is s**t, and he is for the contract he earns. How can Rosas move him??

[Magoose]

Wow.. how the hell are we gonna get rid of this guy? If the casual fan thinks that he is s**t, and he is for the contract he earns. How can Rosas move him??

We really should avoid attaching any FRP or Covington to move his contract unless there is a definite chance of signing an impact FA for his cap. Our only chance to improve the team significantly is by either trade or high draft picks.

That said to move him without having to add any major asset might only be possible either after this season or the next one when there are only three or two years respectively left on his contract.
Then we might be able two find a desperate team that is willing to gamble and trade for him in exchange for smaller and shorter/expiring contracts (e.g. Orlando...if Fultz is still a bust we might be able to trade Wiggins + Okogie for Fournier (exp) + Fultz (exp.).

Another option would be to trade him for a rather negative but cheaper contract...e.g Wiggins + Okogie for Harrison Barnes.

Before we can do somerhing like that of course Wiggins needs to at least show some flashes of what he could be capable of....which might be the hardest part...

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[Rookie-Mistake]

Wow.. how the hell are we gonna get rid of this guy? If the casual fan thinks that he is s**t, and he is for the contract he earns. How can Rosas move him??

We really should avoid attaching any FRP or Covington to move his contract unless there is a definite chance of signing an impact FA for his cap. Our only chance to improve the team significantly is by either trade or high draft picks.

That said to move him without having to add any major asset might only be possible either after this season or the next one when there are only three or two years respectively left on his contract.
Then we might be able two find a desperate team that is willing to gamble and trade for him in exchange for smaller and shorter/expiring contracts (e.g. Orlando...if Fultz is still a bust we might be able to trade Wiggins + Okogie for Fournier (exp) + Fultz (exp.).

Another option would be to trade him for a rather negative but cheaper contract...e.g Wiggins + Okogie for Harrison Barnes.

Before we can do somerhing like that of course Wiggins needs to at least show some flashes of what he could be capable of....which might be the hardest part...

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I 100% agree, I cant wait for us to land one of the PGs from this draft. It is absolutely stacked and would absolutely not trade one this year to get rid of him. I actually wouldn't mind tanking the season and ensuring a top 5 pick.

I would take someone like Barnes, we should be doing absolutely everything to bump this bums trade value up and looking for a partner.

What I find alarming is he hasn't changed one thing this off season, he is still taking contested long 2s (and missing), poor FT% and nothing else.. I'm absolutely Wiggins is Carmelo Anthony cancerous (at least melo could shoot). I cant think of a solution but I trust Rosas to pull the trigger at the right time.

[minimus]

Wow.. how the hell are we gonna get rid of this guy? If the casual fan thinks that he is s**t, and he is for the contract he earns. How can Rosas move him??

We really should avoid attaching any FRP or Covington to move his contract unless there is a definite chance of signing an impact FA for his cap. Our only chance to improve the team significantly is by either trade or high draft picks.

That said to move him without having to add any major asset might only be possible either after this season or the next one when there are only three or two years respectively left on his contract.
Then we might be able two find a desperate team that is willing to gamble and trade for him in exchange for smaller and shorter/expiring contracts (e.g. Orlando...if Fultz is still a bust we might be able to trade Wiggins + Okogie for Fournier (exp) + Fultz (exp.).

Another option would be to trade him for a rather negative but cheaper contract...e.g Wiggins + Okogie for Harrison Barnes.

Before we can do somerhing like that of course Wiggins needs to at least show some flashes of what he could be capable of....which might be the hardest part...

The Kings also have set a precedent in talks with Hield based on the four-year, $85 million deal given to Harrison Barnes in the offseason, a deal league sources say the franchise has already expressed some remorse over due to its impact on contracts to come. A source close to the Kings denied that the team has had any remorse over the deal.

https://theathletic.com/1302622/2019/10/18/charanias-inside-pass-rookie-scale-contract-extensions-the-china-impact-and-more-notes-from-around-the-nba/

Let them stink

[Magoose]

Wow.. how the hell are we gonna get rid of this guy? If the casual fan thinks that he is s**t, and he is for the contract he earns. How can Rosas move him??

We really should avoid attaching any FRP or Covington to move his contract unless there is a definite chance of signing an impact FA for his cap. Our only chance to improve the team significantly is by either trade or high draft picks.

That said to move him without having to add any major asset might only be possible either after this season or the next one when there are only three or two years respectively left on his contract.
Then we might be able two find a desperate team that is willing to gamble and trade for him in exchange for smaller and shorter/expiring contracts (e.g. Orlando...if Fultz is still a bust we might be able to trade Wiggins + Okogie for Fournier (exp) + Fultz (exp.).

Another option would be to trade him for a rather negative but cheaper contract...e.g Wiggins + Okogie for Harrison Barnes.

Before we can do somerhing like that of course Wiggins needs to at least show some flashes of what he could be capable of....which might be the hardest part...

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I 100% agree, I cant wait for us to land one of the PGs from this draft. It is absolutely stacked and would absolutely not trade one this year to get rid of him. I actually wouldn't mind tanking the season and ensuring a top 5 pick.

I would take someone like Barnes, we should be doing absolutely everything to bump this bums trade value up and looking for a partner.

What I find alarming is he hasn't changed one thing this off season, he is still taking contested long 2s (and missing), poor FT% and nothing else.. I'm absolutely Wiggins is Carmelo Anthony cancerous (at least melo could shoot). I cant think of a solution but I trust Rosas to pull the trigger at the right time.

As of now I'm confident that Rosas knows what he's doing. Every single action this offseason implies that Rosas:
- wants us to gain cap flexibility in order to be ready when an interesting trade option comes up for either an impact player or an asset
- wants to avoid signing less impactful free agents on multi-year contracts
- wants us to improve by draft (our roster as it stands is obviously not competitive/deep enough for a playoff spot)

In two years both Teague and Dieng contracts have come off the books and Wiggins contract becomes movable. By that time we will either have the Wiggins situation solved and are competitive enough to keep KAT happy or we will cash in on Towns and can build on Culver, 2020, 2021 FRP and on what we can get back for Towns in 2021 or 2022 and for Covington next year.

So for me this and most likely next season are tanking seasons. By 2021 we should be back and ready for the playoff hunt, with or without Towns and most likely without Wiggins.

[Neeva]

We really should avoid attaching any FRP or Covington to move his contract unless there is a definite chance of signing an impact FA for his cap. Our only chance to improve the team significantly is by either trade or high draft picks.

That said to move him without having to add any major asset might only be possible either after this season or the next one when there are only three or two years respectively left on his contract.
Then we might be able two find a desperate team that is willing to gamble and trade for him in exchange for smaller and shorter/expiring contracts (e.g. Orlando...if Fultz is still a bust we might be able to trade Wiggins + Okogie for Fournier (exp) + Fultz (exp.).

Another option would be to trade him for a rather negative but cheaper contract...e.g Wiggins + Okogie for Harrison Barnes.

Before we can do somerhing like that of course Wiggins needs to at least show some flashes of what he could be capable of....which might be the hardest part...

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I 100% agree, I cant wait for us to land one of the PGs from this draft. It is absolutely stacked and would absolutely not trade one this year to get rid of him. I actually wouldn't mind tanking the season and ensuring a top 5 pick.

I would take someone like Barnes, we should be doing absolutely everything to bump this bums trade value up and looking for a partner.

What I find alarming is he hasn't changed one thing this off season, he is still taking contested long 2s (and missing), poor FT% and nothing else.. I'm absolutely Wiggins is Carmelo Anthony cancerous (at least melo could shoot). I cant think of a solution but I trust Rosas to pull the trigger at the right time.

As of now I'm confident that Rosas knows what he's doing. Every single action this offseason implies that Rosas:
- wants us to gain cap flexibility in order to be ready when an interesting trade option comes up for either an impact player or an asset
- wants to avoid signing less impactful free agents on multi-year contracts
- wants us to improve by draft (our roster as it stands is obviously not competitive/deep enough for a playoff spot)

In two years both Teague and Dieng contracts have come off the books and Wiggins contract becomes movable. By that time we will either have the Wiggins situation solved and are competitive enough to keep KAT happy or we will cash in on Towns and can build on Culver, 2020, 2021 FRP and on what we can get back in a Towns + Covington trade.

So for me this and most likely next season are tanking seasons. By 2021 we should be back and ready for the playoff hunt, with or without Towns and most likely without Wiggins.

If wolves aren’t playoff contenders they need to trade roco while his stock is high for someone that will be as good as Roco by 2021 season....

[Grubie024]

What did Wiggins work on this off-season? I haven’t watched much preseason. I thought we were doing well reducing long two’s?

[younggunsmn]

There are not 100 players better than you Andrew. There are more like 200.

[Run DLC]

Have some faith fellas! He’s still the next LeBron.

[D1SGRUNTL3D]

Just start Culver and run Wiggins with the second unit. From what (little, admittedly) I've seen Culver has been outplaying Wiggins anyway, and we didn't draft Culver with the #6 pick just to have him come off the bench.

As for Wiggins, either he gets mad enough to improve/starts smashing the other team's scrubs or he gets mad enough to get his agent to call for a trade. Doesn't matter if he does get mad; he's not part of our future anymore. Either is preferable to the status quo.

Nobody is trading for Wiggins with 4 years left on his deal. we're stuck with him. Papa Glen needs to hit the powerball just to buy him out and fast forward 4 years or else we're stuck with him.

[K4P]

It's funny because, the system is definitely benefiting him, but he still sucks. No amount of 3 pointers and cuts to the basket will make him not suck at basketball.

[Magoose]

Giannis Antetokounmpo On Playoff Loss Last Season: 'Maybe My Game Wasn't Ready'

See Andrew? This the difference between a real star player and Andrew Wiggins

[Calinks]

Never want to be in this position again. Never maxing a guy I am not sure about, this has hurt this franchise so badly. It's also why I am absolutely out on "motor issues" players unless its like some second round gamble pick. Never taking a motor issues guy again if it's a lottery pick. Very rarely works out. I cannot be questioning a players passion or dedication.

[Jedzz]

Never want to be in this position again. Never maxing a guy I am not sure about, this has hurt this franchise so badly. It's also why I am absolutely out on "motor issues" players unless its like some second round gamble pick. Never taking a motor issues guy again if it's a lottery pick. Very rarely works out. I cannot be questioning a players passion or dedication.

Can't wait for the first game. Wiggins is going to prove us all wrong with his first step towards allstardom. Calling it now, 15 cuts to the basket and one posterizing slam after another.

[beezy]

Never want to be in this position again. Never maxing a guy I am not sure about, this has hurt this franchise so badly. It's also why I am absolutely out on "motor issues" players unless its like some second round gamble pick. Never taking a motor issues guy again if it's a lottery pick. Very rarely works out. I cannot be questioning a players passion or dedication.

Can't wait for the first game. Wiggins is going to prove us all wrong with his first step towards allstardom. Calling it now, 15 cuts to the basket and one posterizing slam after another.

Jedzz, check yourself in to mental health facility. You have WWIDS -- Wiggins Will Improve Delusional Syndrome.

[Jedzz]

In Bucks preseason game:

Wiggins: #1 overall pick, 5 years played, 400 starts, 400 games, 27.5 MM this year
28 mins, 2 OReb, 0 DReb, 1 assists, 0 steals, 0 block, -7, 10 pts on 18 FG and 2 FT shots

Middleton: 2nd round pick, 7 years, 383 starts, 455 games, 30 MM this year
28 mins, 0 OReb, 4 DReb, 7 assists, 1 steals, 0 block, +16, 18 pts on 11 FG and 5 FT shots

I'm not super high on Middleton because of how he and his shots can occasionally vanish at times in big must win games. But, we are talking about different levels of competitive play here.

[wesleyt95]

Uh oh Wiggins cut his hair, maybe the braids were too tight on his brain and that was the problem not Thibs

[minimus]