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Ricky Rubio

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Do you want Ricky Rubio Back?

Yes, he is and always will be a Wolf
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86%
No, that ship has sailed a long time ago
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14%
 
Total votes: 85

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Re: Ricky Rubio 

Post#21 » by Nick K » Tue Nov 17, 2020 2:29 am

I love Ricky but only as a back up PG and not for 15mil.

Teams realize after seeing through the flash that he isn't a difference maker. I love the guy anyway.
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Re: Ricky Rubio 

Post#22 » by Merc_Porto » Tue Nov 17, 2020 2:46 am

Nick K wrote:I love Ricky but only as a back up PG and not for 15mil.

Teams realize after seeing through the flash that he isn't a difference maker. I love the guy anyway.
In what world is Ricky a backup PG? Seriously?
A top-15/20 PG in a league with 30 teams.

Was a damn mistake that we traded Ricky for Jeff F Teague and Utah also regrets of letting Rubio walk for nothing to get Conley. Look at those horrible contracts and the perfomances of those guys compared with Rubio.

He was traded for Paul, an hall-famer, that doesn't mean he's a backup PG, there are easily at least 10 teams that would use him as the starter PG.

And we are in that list.
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Re: Ricky Rubio 

Post#23 » by UnFadeable21 » Tue Nov 17, 2020 2:57 am

Yup Rubio was 3rd in assist this year.

He’s a beast!!
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Re: Ricky Rubio 

Post#24 » by Nick K » Tue Nov 17, 2020 3:05 am

mercgold3 wrote:
Nick K wrote:I love Ricky but only as a back up PG and not for 15mil.

Teams realize after seeing through the flash that he isn't a difference maker. I love the guy anyway.
In what world is Ricky a backup PG? Seriously?
A top-15/20 PG in a league with 30 teams.

Was a damn mistake that we traded Ricky for Jeff F Teague and Utah also regrets of letting Rubio walk for nothing to get Conley. Look at those horrible contracts and the perfomances of those guys compared with Rubio.

He was traded for Paul, an hall-fame, that doesn't mean he's backup PG, there are easily at least 10 teams that would use him as the starter PG.

And we are in that list.


I'm just saying he's going on his 4th team in 4 years. He is what he is.
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Re: Ricky Rubio 

Post#25 » by Merc_Porto » Tue Nov 17, 2020 3:13 am

Nick K wrote:
mercgold3 wrote:
Nick K wrote:I love Ricky but only as a back up PG and not for 15mil.

Teams realize after seeing through the flash that he isn't a difference maker. I love the guy anyway.
In what world is Ricky a backup PG? Seriously?
A top-15/20 PG in a league with 30 teams.

Was a damn mistake that we traded Ricky for Jeff F Teague and Utah also regrets of letting Rubio walk for nothing to get Conley. Look at those horrible contracts and the perfomances of those guys compared with Rubio.

He was traded for Paul, an hall-fame, that doesn't mean he's backup PG, there are easily at least 10 teams that would use him as the starter PG.

And we are in that list.


I'm just saying he's going on his 4th team in 4 years. He is what he is.
Same for Jimmy Butler ;)

What i'm saying is that doesn't make sense to say Rubio is a backup PG when he can start as PG in at least 10 teams.

Of course he would be a backup for Chris Paul or Stephen Curry, but we don't have one of those...
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Re: Ricky Rubio 

Post#26 » by Baseline81 » Tue Nov 17, 2020 3:20 am

mercgold3 wrote:Of course he would be a backup for Chris Paul or Stephen Curry, but we don't have one of those...

Do you think he'd start over Russell?
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Re: Ricky Rubio 

Post#27 » by Jedzz » Tue Nov 17, 2020 3:23 am

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shrink wrote:I will always like Ricky. His $17 mil this year is fine, but his $17.8 mil next year Is problematic, when everyone wants cap space.

We would also need to find a solution to our PF hole that doesn’t necessitate trading Johnson’s expiring deal.

Tough choice.


Yeah, this is more or less my thought process regarding this choice.

In a vacuum I'd love Ricky back, great character and a pretty good player who I think would mesh relatively well with what we're doing, whilst adding a solid vet.

However, whilst his contract is short he is on more money than I'd really like to be paying him, which would also likely lead to us needing to include JJ, thus limiting our options to strengthen in a greater area of need.

Any big external improvement we make (outside of the draft) is likely going to be directly linked to JJ's contract, so we need to tread carefully there IMO.


One too many whilsts for me.

They could trade JJ for Rubio, draft any of the decent looking PFs from this draft. Some even shoot well. But for me this ship sailed when they got Dlo here just like I'm against bringing any good vet PG or drafting one high that would have to play PG to be of any use to us. To me it breaks the roster if the player can't also shift to SG and be a plus there and I don't choose Rubio for any SG minutes, whoever has him should want him commanding an offense even if he's playing off bench.

Suns were foolish if you ask me. They had something good going. Losing Rubio and Oubre is too much. Not that CP isn't worth that but they've broke something now that needs to be put back together in a different way and nobody knows if he and Booker are going to click well not. If anything, Bridges or Ayton maybe should have been part of a different move. They had Cameron Johnson filling their PF role before so maybe they can fix that error now with space for him at SF. Or maybe they won't. But people thinking CP did everything to elevate OKC last season weren't watching SGA close enough. Will that fit with Booker be the same or better, or worse?

Love is still on a rebuilding team and now Rubio is too. But I see Rubio doing really well there with SGA if he stays. Rubio, SGA, Oubre, Gallanari (if he stays), Adans. This roster is nothing to sniff at.

That's if he stays.
It wouldn’t surprise us if Rubio winds up being traded again at some point. Oklahoma City could opt to deal him to a contending team this year or next if they are able to get a decent return.
Maybe Rubio gets traded yet to Cleveland to play with Love. (until the trade deadline when their hearts are broken again)
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Re: Ricky Rubio 

Post#28 » by Merc_Porto » Tue Nov 17, 2020 3:25 am

Baseline81 wrote:
mercgold3 wrote:Of course he would be a backup for Chris Paul or Stephen Curry, but we don't have one of those...

Do you think he'd start over Russell?
Russell can play as SG
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Re: Ricky Rubio 

Post#29 » by Baseline81 » Tue Nov 17, 2020 3:27 am

mercgold3 wrote:Russell can play as SG

Maybe in spurts...
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Re: Ricky Rubio 

Post#30 » by Jedzz » Tue Nov 17, 2020 3:27 am

mercgold3 wrote:
Baseline81 wrote:
mercgold3 wrote:Of course he would be a backup for Chris Paul or Stephen Curry, but we don't have one of those...

Do you think he'd start over Russell?
Russell can play as SG


And Towns could play PF. Doesn't mean he will.
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Re: Ricky Rubio 

Post#31 » by Merc_Porto » Tue Nov 17, 2020 3:32 am

Rubio played with Mitchell and Booker in the last 3 years. And that worked just fine even tought those players need the ball in their hands a lot of time.

Russell can have that role.
An Off-ball Guard.
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Re: Ricky Rubio 

Post#32 » by TheDominator273 » Tue Nov 17, 2020 3:39 am

urinesane wrote:
Meh #2 is a simple alley oop lob in the rising stars game and they left out his full court bounce pass between two defenders. Miss Ricky though, by far my favorite Wolf ever.
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Re: Ricky Rubio 

Post#33 » by shrink » Tue Nov 17, 2020 3:41 am

I am concerned Ricky’s three point shooting doesn’t hold up. He looked better last year. For those that wonder, I am not as worried about questionable three point shooting from a guard as I am from a PF - the latter hurts Towns more.

I am not worried about pairing Rubio with DLo and Towns. Rubio knows what he is - a complimentary player. Better still, he knows how to make star players better.

My biggest concern is that he will refuse to cut his hair from that euro-trash look. Ugh.
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Re: Ricky Rubio 

Post#34 » by Jedzz » Tue Nov 17, 2020 3:46 am

mercgold3 wrote:Rubio played with Mitchell and Booker in the last 3 years. And that worked just fine even tought those players need the ball in their hands a lot of time.

Russell can have that role.
An Off-ball Guard.


I hear it all the time. We can do this, he can do that. Doesn't mean it's the best choice to get the most out of your players. Dlo is a 30 million max player. You want him in his best place to help your team. I laughed when so many wanted Rose playing off bench here. Sure he was helpful as a quality vet off bench when the alternative is junk. But when he would get 26+ minutes because of injuries to starting guards he would flash the old MVP Rose for us and it looked that amazing because we never had anything else even approaching his best when he's in the right role. Taking Dlo out of his best role doesn't help us as much as you think.

But hey, maybe Suns really are going all in and their next move is to get Towns to AZ. Then the flood gates will be open and we can bring back Rubio/Love and heck let's call up Pek. I'm in! I'd love to go back to 2014 stop the Wiggins for Love trade and do the last 6 years over in a different way.
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Re: Ricky Rubio 

Post#35 » by Merc_Porto » Tue Nov 17, 2020 3:53 am

Jedzz wrote:
mercgold3 wrote:Rubio played with Mitchell and Booker in the last 3 years. And that worked just fine even tought those players need the ball in their hands a lot of time.

Russell can have that role.
An Off-ball Guard.


I hear it all the time. We can do this, he can do that. Doesn't mean it's the best choice to get the most out of your players. Dlo is a 30 million max player. You want him in his best place to help your team. I laughed when so many wanted Rose playing off bench here. Sure he was helpful as a quality vet off bench when the alternative is junk. But when he would get 26+ minutes because of injuries to starting guards he would flash the old MVP Rose for us and it looked that amazing because we never had anything else even approaching his best when he's in the right role. Taking Dlo out of his best role doesn't help us as much as you think.

But hey, maybe Suns really are going all in and their next move is to get Towns to AZ. Then the flood gates will be open and we can bring back Rubio/Love and heck let's call up Pek. I'm in! I'd love to go back to 2014 stop the Wiggins for Love trade and do the last 6 years over in a different way.
It's your opinion and that's fine. I believe it would work, especially after seeing Rubio - Mitchell and Rubio - Booker combo in the last couple of years...

You don't need to be with the BS sarcasm...
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Re: Ricky Rubio 

Post#36 » by Jedzz » Tue Nov 17, 2020 3:54 am

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My biggest concern is that he will refuse to cut his hair from that euro-trash look. Ugh.


That's just a disguise he's had to maintain to hide from his three Utah brides.
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Re: Ricky Rubio 

Post#37 » by Jedzz » Tue Nov 17, 2020 3:59 am

mercgold3 wrote:
Jedzz wrote:
mercgold3 wrote:Rubio played with Mitchell and Booker in the last 3 years. And that worked just fine even tought those players need the ball in their hands a lot of time.

Russell can have that role.
An Off-ball Guard.


I hear it all the time. We can do this, he can do that. Doesn't mean it's the best choice to get the most out of your players. Dlo is a 30 million max player. You want him in his best place to help your team. I laughed when so many wanted Rose playing off bench here. Sure he was helpful as a quality vet off bench when the alternative is junk. But when he would get 26+ minutes because of injuries to starting guards he would flash the old MVP Rose for us and it looked that amazing because we never had anything else even approaching his best when he's in the right role. Taking Dlo out of his best role doesn't help us as much as you think.

But hey, maybe Suns really are going all in and their next move is to get Towns to AZ. Then the flood gates will be open and we can bring back Rubio/Love and heck let's call up Pek. I'm in! I'd love to go back to 2014 stop the Wiggins for Love trade and do the last 6 years over in a different way.
It's your opinion and that's fine. I believe it would work, especially after seeing Rubio - Mitchell and Rubio - Booker combo in the last couple of years...

You don't need to be with the BS sarcasm...
Not bs sarcasm, I'm just dreaming of better times.

If Mitchell Rubio and Booker Rubio worked so well, why did both those teams trade him and why didn't they make more noise in the playoffs? I don't want to hear an answer to that because I think both moves were foolish of those teams. But I could be wrong.
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Re: Ricky Rubio 

Post#38 » by Nick K » Tue Nov 17, 2020 4:59 am

mercgold3 wrote:
Nick K wrote:
mercgold3 wrote:In what world is Ricky a backup PG? Seriously?
A top-15/20 PG in a league with 30 teams.

Was a damn mistake that we traded Ricky for Jeff F Teague and Utah also regrets of letting Rubio walk for nothing to get Conley. Look at those horrible contracts and the perfomances of those guys compared with Rubio.

He was traded for Paul, an hall-fame, that doesn't mean he's backup PG, there are easily at least 10 teams that would use him as the starter PG.

And we are in that list.


I'm just saying he's going on his 4th team in 4 years. He is what he is.
Same for Jimmy Butler ;)

What i'm saying is that doesn't make sense to say Rubio is a backup PG when he can start as PG in at least 10 teams.

Of course he would be a backup for Chris Paul or Stephen Curry, but we don't have one of those...


You got me on that one. :D
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Re: Ricky Rubio 

Post#39 » by LibertyPrime » Tue Nov 17, 2020 5:00 am

I'd love to have him back, although I'd love him more at, say, $10 million/year than what he's currently getting. But I'm perfectly okay with him coming in and playing the super-sub Goran Dragic kind of role (yes, I know they're very different players, shut up already, I was talking about impact.) Bringing him off the bench the way the Sonics used to do with Nate McMillan so Payton could slide over to the 2 guard and freelance a bit, run up his scoring numbers. Part time bench spark and part time starter if D'Lo or Edwards goes down with an injury.... I'll bet he could be 6th man of the year playing that role. Then again my love for Ricky has always been a bit irrational. :crazy:
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Re: Ricky Rubio 

Post#40 » by Nick K » Tue Nov 17, 2020 5:05 am

Jedzz wrote:
shrink wrote:
My biggest concern is that he will refuse to cut his hair from that euro-trash look. Ugh.


That's just a disguise he's had to maintain to hide from his three Utah brides.


:lol:

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