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Re: Post Game Thoughts. Magic 

Post#21 » by Jedzz » Thu Jan 21, 2021 4:38 am

K4P wrote:Man not calling timeout the second your 48% free throw shooter grabs the board down 2 with 4 seconds left is bizarre. Anyone else at the line and they probably walk away with a win.
Being up 2 at that moment that is. Needed someone that can hit FTs out there getting fouled for sure. Vando had done his job, it was time to be smart.

Just sad it even got that close.
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Post#22 » by UnFadeable21 » Thu Jan 21, 2021 4:39 am

Ryan Saunders post game “They played Vucevic 43 minutes tonight, they (Magic) were desperate for a win”

Timberwolves aren’t desperate for a win? Going small ball double point guard absolutely costed them the win tonight. Zero excuses to lose being up 10 points with 3 mins to go
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Post#23 » by Jedzz » Thu Jan 21, 2021 4:46 am

UnFadeable21 wrote:Ryan Saunders post game “They played Vucevic 43 minutes tonight, they (Magic) were desperate for a win”

Timberwolves aren’t desperate for a win? Going small ball double point guard absolutely costed them the win tonight. Zero excuses to lose being up 10 points with 3 mins to go


The two pg small ball choice late was lame of course. But nobody out there being able to shoot is really what lost the lead. They had plenty of scoring opportunity. Missed all the shots.

Then the all defensive stud lineup was thrown in, got their stop and rebound. But immediate Time out had to happen to get shooters back on the floor.

Need more players that can shoot. Also need Beasly to go back to being a Shooting Guard first, trying hard to be Mitchell second. We need him to focus on staying warm as a shooter, less drives to net. Someone else needs to pick up that slack driving net and cutting.
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Post#24 » by Devilzsidewalk » Thu Jan 21, 2021 4:48 am

That was such a long cold stretch in the fourth. I could feel the L creeping up there. Five minutes of ice.

It's tough because Kat is the only one that can make something happen around the rim. Beas can sometimes, but he's not quite big enough or explosive with the handle to be a consistent threat. Maybe Edwards if he can get teams to start respecting his jumper.

but as it is now, pretty much every game there's stretches where all we're doing is relying on trying to convert contested threes
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Post#25 » by Jedzz » Thu Jan 21, 2021 4:51 am

K4P wrote:Also Aaron Gordon is pretty bad at basketball


He did a number on Dlo in last two quarters I'm hearing.
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Post#26 » by theGreatRC » Thu Jan 21, 2021 4:51 am

UnFadeable21 wrote:Ryan Saunders post game “They played Vucevic 43 minutes tonight, they (Magic) were desperate for a win”

Timberwolves aren’t desperate for a win? Going small ball double point guard absolutely costed them the win tonight. Zero excuses to lose being up 10 points with 3 mins to go


Yeah, that statement was weird..he's basically saying the Magic played their best guy heavy minutes because they wanted to win bad like we weren't 3-9 before tonight...what a moron
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Post#27 » by wolves_89 » Thu Jan 21, 2021 4:53 am

I hope this ends the small ball experiment for the Wolves. There is no way to look at it other than as a complete and utter failure.
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Post#28 » by AbeVigodaLive » Thu Jan 21, 2021 4:54 am

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Playing two PGs down the stretch... while complaining about ball stopping... and bad shot selection... veiled shots at the "star" PG?

Consider, the Wolves were up 81 - 91 when Russell returned with 4:37 left.

4:20: Russell Hot Potatoes the basketball to his center Naz Reid 25 feet away with less than 2 seconds on the shot clock... Turnover. Then he yells at Reid.
3:52: Russell Turnover.
2:54: Russell misses fadeaway 20 footer. Airball.
1:43: Russell misses fadeaway 16 footer.
0:22: Russell gets 10 footer blocked.

The only buckets during that spell were a 3-point play from McLaughlin. And a McLaughlin to Reid dunk.

So we can complain about Saunders. There are by my count about 773 things we can point to. But the NBA remains built on one thing and one thing only... more than ever before.

PLAYERS.

Yet, I don't know any other organization who complains about bad coaching more. Granted, with Sidney Lowe, Randy Wittman, Kurt Rambis and Saunders, we know bad coaching. But at the end of the day... PLAYERS win games. Star players... max contract guys.

I think it's telling that Russell went 0 - 3 with 2 TOs down the stretch. I think it's telling that Saunders felt more comfortable with McLaughlin out there when he had a max contract guy on the court.

Now Saunders can't come out and say "DLO got sticky fingers and took bad shots." Not if he wants another coaching gig reaching any of DLO's cronies. But he can parse his words and talk about "ball stopping" and "bad shot selection" and those who've watched D. Russell play will know exactly what he's talking about.

Saunders is not a good coach.
But it's probably time Wolves fans start blaming the players rather than Saunders, Thibodeau, Adelman, Wittman, et al for being the worst organization ever.




[Note: It's ok to still blame Rambis. He really was the worst.]
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Post#29 » by Rookie-Mistake » Thu Jan 21, 2021 5:31 am

Again. I did not get to watch. We're s hit.

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Post#30 » by cojayar » Thu Jan 21, 2021 8:18 am

Today Rubio did literally nothing. Trade him. He cost us the win today, with his lack of effort on the last quarter.
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Post#31 » by Foye » Thu Jan 21, 2021 8:40 am

Calinks wrote:Good news, we can only go up from here as a franchise, we are back to rock bottom my friends.


You have been around long enough to know that behind every rock bottom there is another cliff the Wolves will stumble right into, haven't you? :lol:
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Post#32 » by Merc_Porto » Thu Jan 21, 2021 11:44 am

AbeVigodaLive wrote:
UnFadeable21 wrote:
Read on Twitter
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Playing two PGs down the stretch... while complaining about ball stopping... and bad shot selection... veiled shots at the "star" PG?

Consider, the Wolves were up 81 - 91 when Russell returned with 4:37 left.

4:20: Russell Hot Potatoes the basketball to his center Naz Reid 25 feet away with less than 2 seconds on the shot clock... Turnover. Then he yells at Reid.
3:52: Russell Turnover.
2:54: Russell misses fadeaway 20 footer. Airball.
1:43: Russell misses fadeaway 16 footer.
0:22: Russell gets 10 footer blocked.

The only buckets during that spell were a 3-point play from McLaughlin. And a McLaughlin to Reid dunk.

So we can complain about Saunders. There are by my count about 773 things we can point to. But the NBA remains built on one thing and one thing only... more than ever before.

PLAYERS.

Yet, I don't know any other organization who complains about bad coaching more. Granted, with Sidney Lowe, Randy Wittman, Kurt Rambis and Saunders, we know bad coaching. But at the end of the day... PLAYERS win games. Star players... max contract guys.

I think it's telling that Russell went 0 - 3 with 2 TOs down the stretch. I think it's telling that Saunders felt more comfortable with McLaughlin out there when he had a max contract guy on the court.

Now Saunders can't come out and say "DLO got sticky fingers and took bad shots." Not if he wants another coaching gig reaching any of DLO's cronies. But he can parse his words and talk about "ball stopping" and "bad shot selection" and those who've watched D. Russell play will know exactly what he's talking about.

Saunders is not a good coach.
But it's probably time Wolves fans start blaming the players rather than Saunders, Thibodeau, Adelman, Wittman, et al for being the worst organization ever.




[Note: It's ok to still blame Rambis. He really was the worst.]

Russell and Besley are the perfect tank commanders for any team that wants to tank.

Maybe we looking to play lottery in 2021 draft but that is a dangerous game with only a top-3 protected.
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Post#33 » by _AIJ_ » Thu Jan 21, 2021 12:26 pm

We were winning. And then the genius went small. Its like he is purposely trying to lose the game.


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Post#34 » by Charly » Thu Jan 21, 2021 12:31 pm

cojayar wrote:Today Rubio did literally nothing. Trade him. He cost us the win today, with his lack of effort on the last quarter.


lol. It will not happen. It's a shame.
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Post#35 » by PharmD » Thu Jan 21, 2021 12:48 pm

Didn't watch but i see that Edwards was 3/14 with 0 rebounds, 0 assists, 0 steals, 0 blocks, and 2 turnovers.
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Post#36 » by _AIJ_ » Thu Jan 21, 2021 12:56 pm

PharmD wrote:Didn't watch but i see that Edwards was 3/14 with 0 rebounds, 0 assists, 0 steals, 0 blocks, and 2 turnovers.

McDaniels>>>Edwards. jmac will be the better player


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Post#37 » by Merc_Porto » Thu Jan 21, 2021 3:16 pm

Watching JMac and the way we play i only can say... What a waste of a pick that was to get Ricky.

Poor Ricky thought. He didn't deserved but is his fault too because is well know that he accepted to come in this role.
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Post#38 » by Devilzsidewalk » Thu Jan 21, 2021 3:25 pm

_AIJ_ wrote:
PharmD wrote:Didn't watch but i see that Edwards was 3/14 with 0 rebounds, 0 assists, 0 steals, 0 blocks, and 2 turnovers.

McDaniels>>>Edwards. jmac will be the better player


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Post#39 » by Klomp » Thu Jan 21, 2021 5:19 pm

Calinks wrote:I like Naz but we shouldn't be relying on him so much.

I like Vando but we shouldn't be relying on him so much.

We need a solid vet big starter. These guys can't board or body anybody up consistently. They would be great in limited minutes/roles.

Karl-Anthony Towns seems like a decent option
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Post#40 » by Klomp » Thu Jan 21, 2021 5:31 pm

AbeVigodaLive wrote:Saunders is not a good coach.
But it's probably time Wolves fans start blaming the players rather than Saunders, Thibodeau, Adelman, Wittman, et al for being the worst organization ever.

[Note: It's ok to still blame Rambis. He really was the worst.]

Wittman got a job as Wizards head coach after his Minnesota stint. Better record in Washington than Scott Brooks, who took OKC to the Finals.
Thibodeau just got a job as Knicks head coach. TBD.
Adelman was hired at the end of his career.
Mitchell didn't get another head coach job.
Casey got a job as Raptors head coach and then as Pistons head coach. Good stint in Toronto, but not great so far in Detroit.
Rambis had one stint as Knicks head coach. Not good.

Franchise success really is a sum of its parts deal. It's not all on the coaches. It's not all on the players. It's not all on the management.
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