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Post#21 » by packforfreedom » Thu Feb 18, 2021 5:42 am

damn league pass spoilered me, but I guess I just missed another disappointment
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Post#22 » by TRik » Thu Feb 18, 2021 6:00 am

packforfreedom wrote:damn league pass spoilered me, but I guess I just missed another disappointment



It was a good game to watch even though it's a loss. Lots of good things to see (lots of bad as well........obviously).

Yes it was a loss.....but it was one of them better losses. lol
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Post#23 » by zDank » Thu Feb 18, 2021 6:36 am

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Jedzz wrote:It's not just about the young guys. It's the roster logjams and unfits with each other. The puzzle only fits certain ways. They've tried about 20 different ways already this season.


Rubio's best game of the season so far. That coincides with Edwards' and JMac having maybe their worst games? of course.

Beasley, Towns, Rubio, Reid account for 99 pts. How does everyone else have season worst games?

Nah, JMac was sweet as always.


Yeah he didn’t score any points but I thought it was one of his better games this season, he controlled the pace of the game and was dropping dimes.

I also don’t think Rubio having a good game is what caused Edwards to struggle, he got a lot of the same looks he got last night against the lakers just wasn’t hitting tonight. If you want to blame overlap then it was problem more about Beasley getting 25 shots and trying to force being a creator too much.
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Post#24 » by Domejandro » Thu Feb 18, 2021 6:39 am

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This says a lot about what the team thinks of Ryan. No one listens to him. A fade away off balance 3 to win a tie game is about as dumb as eating yellow snow.

The grasping at straws to blame Ryan for literally every single execution error of the youngest line-ups in the League continue to amaze. Anthony Edwards couldn't attack because his handle isn't developed enough yet, he took a shot that almost went down, but unfortunately it didn't. Trying to tie that into the players not respecting Saunders is truly a mental gymnastics of legendary proportions.
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Post#25 » by winforlose » Thu Feb 18, 2021 6:56 am

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This says a lot about what the team thinks of Ryan. No one listens to him. A fade away off balance 3 to win a tie game is about as dumb as eating yellow snow.

The grasping at straws to blame Ryan for literally every single execution error of the youngest line-ups in the League continue to amaze. Anthony Edwards couldn't attack because his handle isn't developed enough yet, he took a shot that almost went down, but unfortunately it didn't. Trying to tie that into the players not respecting Saunders is truly a mental gymnastics of legendary proportions.


1. Look up Ryan’s close game record. If he isn’t the worst per capita head coach in history, then he is in the top 5.

2. You cannot honestly tell me that is a shot you find acceptable end of a tie game. Especially from a shooter who at that point was either 3 of 12 or 3 of 13.

3. Coming out of a timeout is the perfect time to judge a coach. The players huddle around a clipboard and literally have the coach tell them the play. Yes it is on them to execute said play, but when things break down it does reflect on the coach and raise the question as to why the play broke so easily.
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Post#26 » by perik777 » Thu Feb 18, 2021 9:33 am

If those last 3 minutes of regulation dont make the coach to let Rubio control the offense, he is tanking for sure

4 perfect assists, total control of the game. He should have dictated the last play, im sure he would have find an open teamate
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Post#27 » by Heimdal » Thu Feb 18, 2021 10:02 am

I didn't like the last play either, but attacking the rim would have been no better. No way we get a whistle, no way we make a basket against a wall.

Eventually, it came down to 5-6 instances in the second half where we had an open 3 to make it a double-digit game and we clanked each one of them. Pacers had several instances when they needed to make a 3 to stay alive and made everyone of them.

Right now, we are what we expected to be: our offense is probably now top 10 but our defense is bottom 5.
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Post#28 » by Sugarless » Thu Feb 18, 2021 10:53 am

Hahahaha. I can't even be mad anymore. I was laughing my ass off the moment I saw how that last play in regulation would develop. You have Rubio picking apart the Pacers' defense, getting you all sorts of wide open looks, spoon-feeding guys and producing 5 freaking asissts in the last 3 minutes of the game (open 3s for KAT, Beasley and McDaniels, uncontested dunk for Edwards and a lay-up for KAT), and of course when it's time to put the final nail in the coffin you put the ball in Edwards hands, who with 11 seconds on the shot-clock just dribbles, dribbles, dribbles and takes a contested pull-up 3 (let us all remind again how notoriously bad he is at that, amongst the absolute worst in the league), in the best 'Angelo Russell style. Clank.

But, hey, everyone's telling the kid how it was a great shot and they're all perfectly happy with it, so what can you say... :lol:

PS: Man, I even forgot about the end of OT with Beasley being the one handling the ball and turning it over. There really is no end to this.
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Post#29 » by Dewey » Thu Feb 18, 2021 10:55 am

Effort is good

More players playing good

Layman and Juancho DNP again

Not a clutch team right now
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Post#30 » by Heimdal » Thu Feb 18, 2021 11:18 am

Sugarless wrote:Hahahaha. I can't even be mad anymore. I was laughing my ass off the moment I saw how that last play in regulation would develop. You have Rubio picking apart the Pacers' defense, getting you all sorts of wide open looks, spoon-feeding guys and producing 5 freaking asissts in the last 3 minutes of the game (open 3s for KAT, Beasley and McDaniels, uncontested dunk for Edwards and a lay-up for KAT), and of course when it's time to put the final nail in the coffin you put the ball in Edwards hands, who with 11 seconds on the shot-clock just dribbles, dribbles, dribbles and takes a contested pull-up 3 (let us all remind again how notoriously bad he is at that, amongst the absolute worst in the league), in the best 'Angelo Russell style. Clank.

But, hey, everyone's telling the kid how it was a great shot and they're all perfectly happy with it, so what can you say... :lol:

PS: Man, I even forgot about the end of OT with Beasley being the one handling the ball and turning it over. There really is no end to this.


Agreed.

In 5 years Edwards will probably be a star, but the newest flashy 2026 rookie will be the one taking the last shot of the game as a way to develop him. It will be another loss, and the eternal cycle will continue.

Brogdon and Sabonis killed us. It should have been Rubio and Towns the other way, not a 19 year old rookie who by the way couldn't buy a bucket tonight.
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Post#31 » by winforlose » Thu Feb 18, 2021 11:37 am

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Sugarless wrote:Hahahaha. I can't even be mad anymore. I was laughing my ass off the moment I saw how that last play in regulation would develop. You have Rubio picking apart the Pacers' defense, getting you all sorts of wide open looks, spoon-feeding guys and producing 5 freaking asissts in the last 3 minutes of the game (open 3s for KAT, Beasley and McDaniels, uncontested dunk for Edwards and a lay-up for KAT), and of course when it's time to put the final nail in the coffin you put the ball in Edwards hands, who with 11 seconds on the shot-clock just dribbles, dribbles, dribbles and takes a contested pull-up 3 (let us all remind again how notoriously bad he is at that, amongst the absolute worst in the league), in the best 'Angelo Russell style. Clank.

But, hey, everyone's telling the kid how it was a great shot and they're all perfectly happy with it, so what can you say... :lol:

PS: Man, I even forgot about the end of OT with Beasley being the one handling the ball and turning it over. There really is no end to this.


Agreed.

In 5 years Edwards will probably be a star, but the newest flashy 2026 rookie will be the one taking the last shot of the game as a way to develop him. It will be another loss, and the eternal cycle will continue.

Brogdon and Sabonis killed us. It should have been Rubio and Towns the other way, not a 19 year old rookie who by the way couldn't buy a bucket tonight.


Important to add, almost hitting a buzzer beater is worth the same thing as an airball. Someone needs to explain to Edwards that when the score is tied you don’t need a 3. Any basket wins it. Also if they foul you at any point you can win it with a free throw. Edwards should not get a single moment of praise for that absolute catastrophe of judgment. He should get hours of laps followed by hours of game tape and be forced to write a hand written apology for his poor judgment.
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Post#32 » by Dual » Thu Feb 18, 2021 11:39 am

When we were up 9 and have several possessions to break the game, we didn't do it an finally we lose the game.
Is frustrating, but, I'm enjoying so much McDaniels that I don't care.
Is good for both the Wolves and Ricky that he is playing better so he can be traded.
You have 3 high quality pgs in Dlo, Ricky and McLaughlin, and you only need 2.
McLaughlin is the perfect 2nd pg while Ricky is not.
So as Dlo is one of the stars of the team, just give McL the contract he deserves and move on.
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Post#33 » by AbeVigodaLive » Thu Feb 18, 2021 1:57 pm

winforlose wrote:
Heimdal wrote:
Sugarless wrote:




Important to add, almost hitting a buzzer beater is worth the same thing as an airball.




THIS.

THIS is why the Wolves are the worst team in NBA history. THIS is why the Wolves are the worst team in the NBA right now.

Accountability. At the end of the day, there are no moral victories. There are no lucky/unlucky bounces. There are wins and losses. It's ironic/amusing that the team's franchise star is celebrating a missed shot. Obviously, we know why he's doing it for the young rookie.

But it's still telling. Hit the shot... or be a loser.

After 32 years of playing the "what if" or "almost" game... Wolves fans deserve more. I don't expect that much. Just don't be the absolute worst. That seems possible, right?
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Post#34 » by cojayar » Thu Feb 18, 2021 2:32 pm

AbeVigodaLive wrote:
winforlose wrote:
Heimdal wrote:


Important to add, almost hitting a buzzer beater is worth the same thing as an airball.




THIS.

THIS is why the Wolves are the worst team in NBA history. THIS is why the Wolves are the worst team in the NBA right now.

Accountability. At the end of the day, there are no moral victories. There are no lucky/unlucky bounces. There are wins and losses. It's ironic/amusing that the league's franchise star is celebrating a missed shot. Obviously, we know why he's doing it for the young rookie.

But it's still telling. Hit the shot... or be a loser.

After 32 years of playing the "what if" or "almost" game... Wolves fans deserve more. I don't expect that much. Just don't be the absolute worst. That seems possible, right?


100% right.
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Post#35 » by engelmartin » Thu Feb 18, 2021 3:06 pm

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Post#36 » by Dewey » Thu Feb 18, 2021 4:00 pm

Dual wrote:When we were up 9 and have several possessions to break the game, we didn't do it an finally we lose the game.
Is frustrating, but, I'm enjoying so much McDaniels that I don't care.
Is good for both the Wolves and Ricky that he is playing better so he can be traded.
You have 3 high quality pgs in Dlo, Ricky and McLaughlin, and you only need 2.
McLaughlin is the perfect 2nd pg while Ricky is not.
So as Dlo is one of the stars of the team, just give McL the contract he deserves and move on.

This is where ya gotta be GRITTY, and in all reality, teams NEED leadership more than ever in these moments to assure we run a couple good plays and make some stops ... no isiolation ... no settling for shots ... just execute what we know. IMO, that is a combination of Ricky and/or Ryan calling a timeout if needed to dial the team in. Another opportunity in these situations is merely running plays that can get you to the ft line - specifically KAT. FT's ree stop time and perfect for the PG and coach to adjust and make calls on switches and/or the next play down the floor.
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Post#37 » by RiRuHoops » Thu Feb 18, 2021 4:26 pm

Dewey wrote:Effort is good

More players playing good

Layman and Juancho DNP again

Not a clutch team right now


I'm actually puzzled why Layman doesn't play. An absolutely better wing option than either Okogie or Nowell. Juancho I understand as both JV and McD outplaying him.
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Post#38 » by Heimdal » Thu Feb 18, 2021 5:32 pm

Towns was supposed to roll to the basket and get the ball, but did he want it? No way.
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Post#39 » by Klomp » Thu Feb 18, 2021 5:52 pm

Heimdal wrote:
Sugarless wrote:Hahahaha. I can't even be mad anymore. I was laughing my ass off the moment I saw how that last play in regulation would develop. You have Rubio picking apart the Pacers' defense, getting you all sorts of wide open looks, spoon-feeding guys and producing 5 freaking asissts in the last 3 minutes of the game (open 3s for KAT, Beasley and McDaniels, uncontested dunk for Edwards and a lay-up for KAT), and of course when it's time to put the final nail in the coffin you put the ball in Edwards hands, who with 11 seconds on the shot-clock just dribbles, dribbles, dribbles and takes a contested pull-up 3 (let us all remind again how notoriously bad he is at that, amongst the absolute worst in the league), in the best 'Angelo Russell style. Clank.

But, hey, everyone's telling the kid how it was a great shot and they're all perfectly happy with it, so what can you say... :lol:

PS: Man, I even forgot about the end of OT with Beasley being the one handling the ball and turning it over. There really is no end to this.


Agreed.

In 5 years Edwards will probably be a star, but the newest flashy 2026 rookie will be the one taking the last shot of the game as a way to develop him. It will be another loss, and the eternal cycle will continue.

Brogdon and Sabonis killed us. It should have been Rubio and Towns the other way, not a 19 year old rookie who by the way couldn't buy a bucket tonight.

So in this attempt at a comparison, Rubio is our star player right now?
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Post#40 » by Heimdal » Thu Feb 18, 2021 6:02 pm

Klomp wrote:So in this attempt at a comparison, Rubio is our star player right now?


No, you run a play with "13 assists - 1 turnover" Rubio where he finds a good pass to one of our shooters (Towns, Beasley or McDaniels) or a cutting Edwards, like we'd done several times before with success.

If that means calling Rubio "our star player", that's on you.

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