Beasley suspended 12 games

SCTwins · Post #21 » by **SCTwins** » Fri Feb 26, 2021 12:35 am

RiRuHoops wrote:Finally Layman gets to play.

Should.

Instead, I expect 30+ minutes each for Okogie and Nowell.

AbeVigodaLive · Post #22 » by **AbeVigodaLive** » Fri Feb 26, 2021 12:51 am

Rosas and his team are not upset by this... at all.

They'll be able to add this to the "woe is us... it's unfair to judge any of us after that crazy season" narrative hitting all media channels over the next few months... ramping up even more into next fall.

RiRuHoops · Post #23 » by **RiRuHoops** » Fri Feb 26, 2021 1:29 am

winforlose wrote:
UnFadeable21 wrote:So who gets inserted into the starting unit? culver or McDaniels at the 3?

Layman.

It needs to be the better shooter as he would be replacing team's best volume shooter. So Layman is a logical choice. But Nowell was Beasley's backup so it's most likely him.

Neeva · Post #24 » by **Neeva** » Fri Feb 26, 2021 1:48 am

Rather play Nowell and culver over Layman. Trade layman already.

shrink · Post #25 » by **shrink** » Fri Feb 26, 2021 2:37 am

cccmonteiro wrote:We knew it was coming but still...

Read on Twitter

Really? Beasley’s actions (pointing a gun at a family, pointing a gun at his child, leaving loaded weapons around a toddler), are potentially lethal decisions that could cause the death of a child.

I do not think 12 games is overblown. Some things are more important than how good a basketball player a man is.

winforlose · Post #26 » by **winforlose** » Fri Feb 26, 2021 2:42 am

shrink wrote:
cccmonteiro wrote:We knew it was coming but still...

Read on Twitter

Really? Beasley’s actions (pointing a gun at a family, pointing a gun at his child, leaving loaded weapons around a toddler), are potentially lethal decisions that could cause the death of a child.

I do not think 12 games is overblown. Some things are more important than how good a basketball player a man is.

The question is whether the NBA would assess the same penalty to a star on a winning team? I think the answer is clearly no. Also 10/82 is 12.2%. 12/72 is 16.7%. That is how much of his salary and how much of the season are lost. You can argue it is reasonable, and there are plenty of details I wish I knew in making that judgment, but I do believe it is more likely they send a message to a Timberwolf then a Laker or Warrior, or Buck, or 76er.

shrink · Post #27 » by **shrink** » Fri Feb 26, 2021 2:56 am

winforlose wrote:
shrink wrote:
cccmonteiro wrote:We knew it was coming but still...

Read on Twitter

Really? Beasley’s actions (pointing a gun at a family, pointing a gun at his child, leaving loaded weapons around a toddler), are potentially lethal decisions that could cause the death of a child.

I do not think 12 games is overblown. Some things are more important than how good a basketball player a man is.

The question is whether the NBA would assess the same penalty to a star on a winning team? I think the answer is clearly no. Also 10/82 is 12.2%. 12/72 is 16.7%. That is how much of his salary and how much of the season are lost. You can argue it is reasonable, and there are plenty of details I wish I knew in making that judgment, but I do believe it is more likely they send a message to a Timberwolf then a Laker or Warrior, or Buck, or 76er.

What possible evidence is there that a player on a winning team wouldn’t get this punishment? “Clearly no?”

The Beasley story was national news because of it’s severity, and it hurts the image of the entire NBA. These were felony charges when they made the news, before they got reduced in a plea bargain. The NBA main office had to levy a harsh penalty.

winforlose · Post #28 » by **winforlose** » Fri Feb 26, 2021 3:16 am

shrink wrote:
winforlose wrote:
shrink wrote:Really? Beasley’s actions (pointing a gun at a family, pointing a gun at his child, leaving loaded weapons around a toddler), are potentially lethal decisions that could cause the death of a child.

I do not think 12 games is overblown. Some things are more important than how good a basketball player a man is.

The question is whether the NBA would assess the same penalty to a star on a winning team? I think the answer is clearly no. Also 10/82 is 12.2%. 12/72 is 16.7%. That is how much of his salary and how much of the season are lost. You can argue it is reasonable, and there are plenty of details I wish I knew in making that judgment, but I do believe it is more likely they send a message to a Timberwolf then a Laker or Warrior, or Buck, or 76er.

What possible evidence is there that a player on a winning team wouldn’t get this punishment? “Clearly no?”

The Beasley story was national news because of it’s severity, and it hurts the image of the entire NBA. These were felony charges when they made the news, before they got reduced in a plea bargain. The NBA main office had to levy a harsh penalty.

Other punishments for weapons and assaults were lesser. Also as I pointed out the Joe Smith situation and Durant situation were essentially the same and had very different results. In both cases players were brought in well below their value with a promise of increased salary as it became available. We lost first round picks, they got rings.

Dewey · Post #29 » by **Dewey** » Fri Feb 26, 2021 3:24 am

Money ... the league will strike a small market - never a big market ... all about $$$. These leagues are money machines. Had Beasley been traded to NY or another big market the punishment would be a mere fraction.

Okogie and Culver will pick up the slack

casteral · Post #30 » by **casteral** » Fri Feb 26, 2021 4:01 am

nba is a joke as always... if he was on a 'contending' team, it would have been on a slap on the wrist 2 game or similar suspension. but since he's on the worst team in the league, max out that suspension as a 'statement' , and in the end prob helps out GSW as a darling of the NBA cash cow focused 'leaders' like silver. if beas was a laker, max of 2 games smh

Jedzz · Post #31 » by **Jedzz** » Fri Feb 26, 2021 4:55 am

K4P wrote:I knew they would be strict with his suspension. He was playing a little too well and we aren’t allowed to have nice things lol

You know it. 12 games..pfft

I'm still waiting for Clippers, Lakers to lose their 5 FRPs each for working the system. Not a thing for them I suppose

karch34 · Post #32 » by **karch34** » Fri Feb 26, 2021 5:18 am

K4P wrote:Would have been 4 games max if he was on Lebrons team

That was my first thought too. More from Joe Smith under the table agreement being 5 first rounders and Magic saying on national TV he wanted Paul George was $500k fine. Not saying Beasley suspension is unfair or unjustified, he deserves a 2nd chance and opportunity to atone, but actions were stupid and dangerous. I feel like he got off light to be honest. But there's a big inconsistency in how punishment is handed out and it's not just the NBA.

TheDominator273 · Post #33 » by **TheDominator273** » Fri Feb 26, 2021 5:21 am

12 games is light for what he did IMO, but then again so is his plea deal.

winforlose · Post #34 » by **winforlose** » Fri Feb 26, 2021 5:34 am

TheDominator273 wrote:12 games is light for what he did IMO, but then again so is his plea deal.

There were extenuating circumstances. For one, he had no priors, for another riots were going on, and finally by pleading out he saved the time and money and legal congestion of a trial. Judicial economy is something highly prized given how full the dockets are. Still, I am surprised they are making him serve time at all. I honestly believe had he been white and the family non white he would have been on a suspended sentence or invited to speak at the RNC.

Rookie-Mistake · Post #35 » by **Rookie-Mistake** » Fri Feb 26, 2021 6:27 am

Are you ok?

winforlose wrote:
TheDominator273 wrote:12 games is light for what he did IMO, but then again so is his plea deal.

There were extenuating circumstances. For one, he had no priors, for another riots were going on, and finally by pleading out he saved the time and money and legal congestion of a trial. Judicial economy is something highly prized given how full the dockets are. Still, I am surprised they are making him serve time at all. I honestly believe had he been white and the family non white he would have been on a suspended sentence or invited to speak at the RNC.

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packforfreedom · Post #36 » by **packforfreedom** » Fri Feb 26, 2021 6:48 am

The suspension is absolutly justified. This season man.

tank for 40 (percent)

TRik · Post #37 » by **TRik** » Fri Feb 26, 2021 10:46 am

winforlose wrote:
shrink wrote:
cccmonteiro wrote:We knew it was coming but still...

Read on Twitter

Really? Beasley’s actions (pointing a gun at a family, pointing a gun at his child, leaving loaded weapons around a toddler), are potentially lethal decisions that could cause the death of a child.

I do not think 12 games is overblown. Some things are more important than how good a basketball player a man is.

The question is whether the NBA would assess the same penalty to a star on a winning team? I think the answer is clearly no. Also 10/82 is 12.2%. 12/72 is 16.7%. That is how much of his salary and how much of the season are lost. You can argue it is reasonable, and there are plenty of details I wish I knew in making that judgment, but I do believe it is more likely they send a message to a Timberwolf then a Laker or Warrior, or Buck, or 76er.

The answer is not ‘clearly no’ ohh wise one.

TRik · Post #38 » by **TRik** » Fri Feb 26, 2021 10:53 am

packforfreedom wrote:The suspension is absolutly justified. This season man.

tank for 40 (percent)

100 percent justified. This absolute tool pointed a loaded rifle, while stoned, at a little girl.

...and then people are like... ‘I just love Beasley, I think he’s gonna be a star’

winforlose · Post #39 » by **winforlose** » Fri Feb 26, 2021 11:28 am

Rookie-Mistake wrote:Are you ok?
winforlose wrote:
TheDominator273 wrote:12 games is light for what he did IMO, but then again so is his plea deal.

There were extenuating circumstances. For one, he had no priors, for another riots were going on, and finally by pleading out he saved the time and money and legal congestion of a trial. Judicial economy is something highly prized given how full the dockets are. Still, I am surprised they are making him serve time at all. I honestly believe had he been white and the family non white he would have been on a suspended sentence or invited to speak at the RNC.

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When I was in law school they explained the way our justice system truly functions. Look up the difference in legal penalties between use and possession of crack vs powder cocaine. Look up the statistics on sentencing with white victims and perps of color vs victims of color and white perps. Or even persons of color on both sides. I don’t endorse what he did, but I do think the penalty was different based on the factors mentioned above. If it is simply a question of the guns, white homeowners who pointed loaded weapons at passerby’s perceived to be threat happened recently, they spoke at the RNC.

winforlose · Post #40 » by **winforlose** » Fri Feb 26, 2021 11:35 am

TRik wrote:
packforfreedom wrote:The suspension is absolutly justified. This season man.

tank for 40 (percent)

100 percent justified. This absolute tool pointed a loaded rifle, while stoned, at a little girl.

...and then people are like... ‘I just love Beasley, I think he’s gonna be a star’

Can you please provide a link that establishes he was stoned during the incident? I am not disputing what you are saying, but I never read he was under the influence at the time. Also can you please provide a link that says he aimed at the girl specifically? My understanding was he pointed it at the car and demanded they leave his property. Again not disputing your account, but it is not what I read.