Who won't be on the team in a week?
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100% sure ... I will not be on the roster 1 week from today
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lol why do people want to trade Beasley? I don't get it...he is such an asset to have on that contract and also the most reliable 3 pt shooter among Wolves guards/wings. Nowell is still developing and even if Nowell becomes good, it's okay to have both on the roster.
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life_saver wrote:lol why do people want to trade Beasley? I don't get it...he is such an asset to have on that contract and also the most reliable 3 pt shooter among Wolves guards/wings. Nowell is still developing and even if Nowell becomes good, it's okay to have both on the roster.
I don't know about want to, but when you are looking to balance the roster you have to look at trading a guard. Beasley is someone that would have enough value to possibly acquire a quality PF, and he's someone redundant as a SG with Edwards and Nowell, at least if Nowell continues to play like a quality rotation player.
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I could see no trade being made. One simple one with Utah is Juwan Morgan and cash for the remainder of Minnesota’s space under the Luxury-Tax (and a protected second that will not convey).
Utah gets out of the Luxury-Tax, while Minnesota gets a small about of cash.
Utah gets out of the Luxury-Tax, while Minnesota gets a small about of cash.
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life_saver wrote:lol why do people want to trade Beasley? I don't get it...he is such an asset to have on that contract and also the most reliable 3 pt shooter among Wolves guards/wings. Nowell is still developing and even if Nowell becomes good, it's okay to have both on the roster.
No one wants to trade Beasley. It's just that Edwards has taken his place and I believe - time could prove me wrong - that Finch doesn't want to play DLO, Edwards and Beasley together. In interviews, he talks about having length on defense. He wants taller forwards.
Also, Beasley, in his career, has played a lot better as a starter than reserve. He reminds me of Dieng or Rubio in that way. Some guys aren't bench guys. Even in Denver his numbers (starter vs. reserve) were night and day.
I would definitely move him with the emergence of Edwards at the 2.
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NebWolvesFan wrote:life_saver wrote:lol why do people want to trade Beasley? I don't get it...he is such an asset to have on that contract and also the most reliable 3 pt shooter among Wolves guards/wings. Nowell is still developing and even if Nowell becomes good, it's okay to have both on the roster.
No one wants to trade Beasley. It's just that Edwards has taken his place and I believe - time could prove me wrong - that Finch doesn't want to play DLO, Edwards and Beasley together. In interviews, he talks about having length on defense. He wants taller forwards.
Also, Beasley, in his career, has played a lot better as a starter than reserve. He reminds me of Dieng or Rubio in that way. Some guys aren't bench guys. Even in Denver his numbers (starter vs. reserve) were night and day.
I would definitely move him with the emergence of Edwards at the 2.
Essentially this.
1. No one is looking to move him to move him but you need to give to get.
2. Edwards’ best position is SG. Beasley has little positional flexibility.
3. A DLo/Beasley backcourt is defensively horrific. Horrific. And I don’t see us moving DLo.
Combined, just seems Beasley is not only a good asset but also someone that makes sense to move. That’s said, I could see Rosas valuing his shooting more than anything he could get in return.
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jpatrick wrote:NebWolvesFan wrote:life_saver wrote:lol why do people want to trade Beasley? I don't get it...he is such an asset to have on that contract and also the most reliable 3 pt shooter among Wolves guards/wings. Nowell is still developing and even if Nowell becomes good, it's okay to have both on the roster.
No one wants to trade Beasley. It's just that Edwards has taken his place and I believe - time could prove me wrong - that Finch doesn't want to play DLO, Edwards and Beasley together. In interviews, he talks about having length on defense. He wants taller forwards.
Also, Beasley, in his career, has played a lot better as a starter than reserve. He reminds me of Dieng or Rubio in that way. Some guys aren't bench guys. Even in Denver his numbers (starter vs. reserve) were night and day.
I would definitely move him with the emergence of Edwards at the 2.
Essentially this.
1. No one is looking to move him to move him but you need to give to get.
2. Edwards’ best position is SG. Beasley has little positional flexibility.
3. A DLo/Beasley backcourt is defensively horrific. Horrific. And I don’t see us moving DLo.
Combined, just seems Beasley is not only a good asset but also someone that makes sense to move. That’s said, I could see Rosas valuing his shooting more than anything he could get in return.
I would wait to see atleast few games with all Beasley, Edwards, KAT playing together...even if Beasley isn't starting, he can come off the bench playing 25-30 mpg like how Lou does/has been doing for Clippers.
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If I have to guess, I'd go with Culver
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jpatrick wrote:NebWolvesFan wrote:life_saver wrote:lol why do people want to trade Beasley? I don't get it...he is such an asset to have on that contract and also the most reliable 3 pt shooter among Wolves guards/wings. Nowell is still developing and even if Nowell becomes good, it's okay to have both on the roster.
No one wants to trade Beasley. It's just that Edwards has taken his place and I believe - time could prove me wrong - that Finch doesn't want to play DLO, Edwards and Beasley together. In interviews, he talks about having length on defense. He wants taller forwards.
Also, Beasley, in his career, has played a lot better as a starter than reserve. He reminds me of Dieng or Rubio in that way. Some guys aren't bench guys. Even in Denver his numbers (starter vs. reserve) were night and day.
I would definitely move him with the emergence of Edwards at the 2.
Essentially this.
1. No one is looking to move him to move him but you need to give to get.
2. Edwards’ best position is SG. Beasley has little positional flexibility.
3. A DLo/Beasley backcourt is defensively horrific. Horrific. And I don’t see us moving DLo.
Combined, just seems Beasley is not only a good asset but also someone that makes sense to move. That’s said, I could see Rosas valuing his shooting more than anything he could get in return.
Beasley is definitely the guy you dangle at this time... some reasons already listed, but also just to gauge his value around the league for off-season moves.
I think one of Layman or Juancho, Okogie or culver, and Vanderbilt are traded. Three players will be moved total.
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life_saver wrote:I would wait to see atleast few games with all Beasley, Edwards, KAT playing together...even if Beasley isn't starting, he can come off the bench playing 25-30 mpg like how Lou does/has been doing for Clippers.
The trade deadline passes next week.
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Worm Guts wrote:life_saver wrote:lol why do people want to trade Beasley? I don't get it...he is such an asset to have on that contract and also the most reliable 3 pt shooter among Wolves guards/wings. Nowell is still developing and even if Nowell becomes good, it's okay to have both on the roster.
I don't know about want to, but when you are looking to balance the roster you have to look at trading a guard. Beasley is someone that would have enough value to possibly acquire a quality PF, and he's someone redundant as a SG with Edwards and Nowell, at least if Nowell continues to play like a quality rotation player.
Here's how sort of see it. If you are keeping Edwards, remember Rosas was trying to trade that pick because he was building a team - now with Edwards showing some flashes he might be tradeable. But if they are keeping him, I say ship out all the PGs and most of this guards logjam. They are the ones with more versitile value but are unnecessary if keeping Edwards. Edwards is very much is going to hog ball control, offensive focus and shots while here. With that big head of his after yesterday there is no going back to normal ball. He's Michael Jordon every game now. Yesterday's game all Rubio did all game if even getting a chance to walk it up still just handed it off to Edwards. I say hand it off because that's exactly what's happening. Edwards comes to Rubio and says hand it over and Rubio is of course happy to hand it away. What the hell do we need Rubio's 17million cost for if that's all he's going to do. Likewise, Nowell came into the game with the hot hand in previous games, but by mid third quarter he was still only at 14 minutes and 4 shots. There were no other guards playing to take shots and time away from him. Layman who started had 2 shots at that point. Vando who started only had maybe 14 minutes by that point. So...It's all the Edwards factor. Trade everyone if you are keeping Ant, Towns, DLo. Get some large fowards, maybe a depth giant for the front court and let's let Ant/Towns chuck up 55 shots a game. Dlo will shoot more when Ant is cold. But really, should probably trade him as well.
The alternative, sell high on Ant's recent flashes and continue with the team building that is there to be had if they want to.
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Oh oh ... Angry Elf
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Yea Beasley's name is up largely because he is really valuable. He's probably our second-best getable asset behind McDaniels. Now I absolutely think we can find a way to play him and Edwards and Nowell and don't think he has to be traded, he can help us a lot right now but if we are talking about getting someone like Collins, then he probably has to be in that convo.
That said I don't know if I would move him for Collins simply because we probably have to max Collins and I don't think having Collins, Towns, and Dlo maxed is worth it. If Collins was on a lesser deal with guaranteed time left on his contract I'd be leaning towards making the trade but even then I'd have to think about it.
I think pretty highly of Beasley's game and what it can do for this team and he's still young and can still get better.
That said I don't know if I would move him for Collins simply because we probably have to max Collins and I don't think having Collins, Towns, and Dlo maxed is worth it. If Collins was on a lesser deal with guaranteed time left on his contract I'd be leaning towards making the trade but even then I'd have to think about it.
I think pretty highly of Beasley's game and what it can do for this team and he's still young and can still get better.
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Calinks wrote:Yea Beasley's name is up largely because he is really valuable. He's probably our second-best getable asset behind McDaniels. Now I absolutely think we can find a way to play him and Edwards and Nowell and don't think he has to be traded, he can help us a lot right now but if we are talking about getting someone like Collins, then he probably has to be in that convo.
That said I don't know if I would move him for Collins simply because we probably have to max Collins and I don't think having Collins, Towns, and Dlo maxed is worth it. If Collins was on a lesser deal with guaranteed time left on his contract I'd be leaning towards making the trade but even then I'd have to think about it.
I think pretty highly of Beasley's game and what it can do for this team and he's still young and can still get better.
yeah...that's where I am at...I don't think maxing all 3 - KAT, Collins, DLo is the right way to allocate resources. Especially when none of them are good defenders
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life_saver wrote:Calinks wrote:Yea Beasley's name is up largely because he is really valuable. He's probably our second-best getable asset behind McDaniels. Now I absolutely think we can find a way to play him and Edwards and Nowell and don't think he has to be traded, he can help us a lot right now but if we are talking about getting someone like Collins, then he probably has to be in that convo.
That said I don't know if I would move him for Collins simply because we probably have to max Collins and I don't think having Collins, Towns, and Dlo maxed is worth it. If Collins was on a lesser deal with guaranteed time left on his contract I'd be leaning towards making the trade but even then I'd have to think about it.
I think pretty highly of Beasley's game and what it can do for this team and he's still young and can still get better.
yeah...that's where I am at...I don't think maxing all 3 - KAT, Collins, DLo is the right way to allocate resources. Especially when none of them are good defenders
Same opinion I have. I'd rather trade Culver, Layman and Ed Davis for some defensive length and then focus on defense at SF/PF in free agency. With the cap space decreasing some teams might renounce rights to players like Lauri, Will Barton.
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Ant is talking Rubio up everyday. No reporter is going to ask him "but Ant, Ricky might be traded this week" and see the funny answer we get?
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Don't think there will be a trade
but I'll guess Juancho for Mike Scott (expiring)+ 2021 NYK 2nd round pick that Philly has, currently 44th
or Philly's own 2021 2nd, currently 59th
but I'll guess Juancho for Mike Scott (expiring)+ 2021 NYK 2nd round pick that Philly has, currently 44th
or Philly's own 2021 2nd, currently 59th
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Over the last week I've come to believe that Juancho isn't getting moved unless it's as part of a larger deal for a starting PF. I think Finch likes what he brings and is going to keep giving him solid rotation minutes the rest of the year.
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You never know. GMs and coaches talk up players only to trade them away the next day, but I would say:
*Rubio suddenly is going nowhere. Ant is blossoming at the speed of light and telling every 5 minutes how Rubio is key. So, abort shipment. Mitchell-Booker-Edwards. Does Rosas risk the process?
*Edwards is going nowhere. Come on. I can't believe I'm reading Wolves fans thinking Edwards might be traded.
*Okogie is going to be extremely useful with Finch. Our coach knows how to use him. See how he pestered Devin Booker for the last 7 minutes of the game. No Okogie probably means Booker scores at will in those minutes and we lose.
*The "cheap oozing potential" group is going nowhere. That cheap part is huge when you have 2 max guys and live around the luxury tax: Nowell, Reid, McDaniels.
On the trade block:
*Beasley. Our best asset. Great 3 point shooter with a bunch of red flags: He seems to be pretty selfish. He wants his shots (yeah) and he's not going to get many playing with Edwards, Russell and Towns. He doesn't want to be a bench player and he plays horrible defense. To make things worse, he might get caught playing with guns again at any time and a second felony I guess would mean serious trouble. You don't want him being a Wolf if that happens. I'm not sure he's learned a thing from this suspension, but I may be wrong.
*"Do they have any value?" group: Culver, Layman, Juancho, Vanderbilt, Davis. I don't see how Rosas gets rid of these guys and get something valuable out of them, if it's not sending FRPs. That's why the only way I see Rosas making a move, is packaging players of this group with Beasley.
*Rubio suddenly is going nowhere. Ant is blossoming at the speed of light and telling every 5 minutes how Rubio is key. So, abort shipment. Mitchell-Booker-Edwards. Does Rosas risk the process?
*Edwards is going nowhere. Come on. I can't believe I'm reading Wolves fans thinking Edwards might be traded.
*Okogie is going to be extremely useful with Finch. Our coach knows how to use him. See how he pestered Devin Booker for the last 7 minutes of the game. No Okogie probably means Booker scores at will in those minutes and we lose.
*The "cheap oozing potential" group is going nowhere. That cheap part is huge when you have 2 max guys and live around the luxury tax: Nowell, Reid, McDaniels.
On the trade block:
*Beasley. Our best asset. Great 3 point shooter with a bunch of red flags: He seems to be pretty selfish. He wants his shots (yeah) and he's not going to get many playing with Edwards, Russell and Towns. He doesn't want to be a bench player and he plays horrible defense. To make things worse, he might get caught playing with guns again at any time and a second felony I guess would mean serious trouble. You don't want him being a Wolf if that happens. I'm not sure he's learned a thing from this suspension, but I may be wrong.
*"Do they have any value?" group: Culver, Layman, Juancho, Vanderbilt, Davis. I don't see how Rosas gets rid of these guys and get something valuable out of them, if it's not sending FRPs. That's why the only way I see Rosas making a move, is packaging players of this group with Beasley.
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wolves_89 wrote:Over the last week I've come to believe that Juancho isn't getting moved unless it's as part of a larger deal for a starting PF. I think Finch likes what he brings and is going to keep giving him solid rotation minutes the rest of the year.
As long as next season he makes sure to come into camp in some kind of playing shape instead of actors shape that takes a month plus to get into game shape.
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