Free Agency Thread

Post #21 » by **Klomp** » Thu Jul 1, 2021 2:42 am

wolves_89 wrote:
shrink wrote:Britt on Dane’s podcast likes Theis. Also mentions Zach Collins as a riskier, cheaper version of Miles Turner.

I don’t know enough about Collins. Thoughts?

I believe Collins just had his third ankle operation in under a year and is out indefinitely (after playing 11 games in 2019-20 and zero games in 2020-21).

Entering restricted free agency, might make him a buy-low candidate.

shangrila · Post #22 » by **shangrila** » Thu Jul 1, 2021 3:52 am

Klomp wrote:
wolves_89 wrote:
shrink wrote:Britt on Dane’s podcast likes Theis. Also mentions Zach Collins as a riskier, cheaper version of Miles Turner.

I don’t know enough about Collins. Thoughts?

I believe Collins just had his third ankle operation in under a year and is out indefinitely (after playing 11 games in 2019-20 and zero games in 2020-21).

Entering restricted free agency, might make him a buy-low candidate.

If Portland isn't interested then neither am I.

At this point he's far too big of a risk.

karch34 · Post #23 » by **karch34** » Thu Jul 1, 2021 4:11 am

Collins is high risk reward guy. I could see it working until ankle surgery again. I actually thought they made a decent case for Powell as a trade where we don’t give up much. I like Theis but do remember some discussion Bulls got worse and Boston got better after the trade (haven’t checked), could be many reasons but I’d still gamble on him.

minimus · Post #24 » by **minimus** » Mon Jul 5, 2021 8:10 pm

Mo Wagner? He is not very athletic, but he is very active, mobile, high IQ young player with promising shot. His skillset kind of overlaps with Naz Reid's and Juancho, but if we can get him for team friendly 5-6mil I'd try to form KAT-Reid-Wagner-Vando-McDaniels rotation.

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Post #25 » by **Domejandro** » Mon Jul 5, 2021 8:21 pm

If Minnesota trades Naz Reid, Mo Wagner is absolutely the kind of player Minnesota will try to sign.

Post #26 » by **Klomp** » Tue Jul 6, 2021 12:43 am

Domejandro wrote:If Minnesota trades Naz Reid, Mo Wagner is absolutely the kind of player Minnesota will try to sign.

In terms of skillset, I agree. But don't think they'll necessarily put big money into reserves.

SO_MONEY · Post #27 » by **SO_MONEY** » Tue Jul 6, 2021 1:00 pm

Domejandro wrote:If Minnesota trades Naz Reid, Mo Wagner is absolutely the kind of player Minnesota will try to sign.

Wagner is a PF he isn't dependent on Naz, but it would indicate we might move on from Juancho this year via trade or next year via option...I think that is how his contract goes if I remember correctly?

LibertyPrime · Post #28 » by **LibertyPrime** » Tue Jul 13, 2021 6:47 am

Maybe the power forward we needed was in our hearts on the roster all along?

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NOTE: I like ChatterWolves but he's easier to listen to at 1.25 speed as he speaks a little slowly.

Anyway, might be easier to find a backup center in free agency than a starting PF....

Okay, RealGM, tell me why it won't work.

mplsfonz23 · Post #29 » by **mplsfonz23** » Tue Jul 13, 2021 5:56 pm

Klomp wrote:
Domejandro wrote:If Minnesota trades Naz Reid, Mo Wagner is absolutely the kind of player Minnesota will try to sign.

In terms of skillset, I agree. But don't think they'll necessarily put big money into reserves.

Why would we trade Naz? He's exactly what we need. Good backup. Cheap. And seems to "want" to be here.

moonpie · Post #30 » by **moonpie** » Tue Jul 13, 2021 6:16 pm

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Post #31 » by **Klomp** » Tue Jul 13, 2021 6:45 pm

mplsfonz23 wrote:
Klomp wrote:
Domejandro wrote:If Minnesota trades Naz Reid, Mo Wagner is absolutely the kind of player Minnesota will try to sign.

In terms of skillset, I agree. But don't think they'll necessarily put big money into reserves.

Why would we trade Naz? He's exactly what we need. Good backup. Cheap. And seems to "want" to be here.

Only cheap for one more year. Then he won't be.

Dewey · Post #32 » by **Dewey** » Wed Jul 14, 2021 12:11 am

Klomp wrote:
mplsfonz23 wrote:
Klomp wrote:In terms of skillset, I agree. But don't think they'll necessarily put big money into reserves.

Why would we trade Naz? He's exactly what we need. Good backup. Cheap. And seems to "want" to be here.

Only cheap for one more year. Then he won't be.

They always wanna be here until they have some value …

Krapinsky · Post #33 » by **Krapinsky** » Wed Jul 14, 2021 3:53 am

Klomp wrote:
mplsfonz23 wrote:
Klomp wrote:In terms of skillset, I agree. But don't think they'll necessarily put big money into reserves.

Why would we trade Naz? He's exactly what we need. Good backup. Cheap. And seems to "want" to be here.

Only cheap for one more year. Then he won't be.

Agree. Love Naz, but if he has value around the league then it might be time to cash out. At some point, perhaps as early as the start of next season, he's going to earn himself a larger role that we won't be able to give him so long as Kat stays healthy.

moonpie · Post #34 » by **moonpie** » Fri Jul 16, 2021 9:22 pm

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KGdaBom · Post #35 » by **KGdaBom** » Fri Jul 16, 2021 10:59 pm

shangrila wrote:
Klomp wrote:
wolves_89 wrote:
I believe Collins just had his third ankle operation in under a year and is out indefinitely (after playing 11 games in 2019-20 and zero games in 2020-21).

Entering restricted free agency, might make him a buy-low candidate.

If Portland isn't interested then neither am I.

At this point he's far too big of a risk.

The only Collins in the NBA I'm interested in is John. Other than that I like Tom.

KGdaBom · Post #36 » by **KGdaBom** » Fri Jul 16, 2021 11:01 pm

moonpie wrote:

Read on Twitter

Mild interest if not too expensive.

shangrila · Post #37 » by **shangrila** » Fri Jul 16, 2021 11:58 pm

Krapinsky wrote:
Klomp wrote:
mplsfonz23 wrote:
Why would we trade Naz? He's exactly what we need. Good backup. Cheap. And seems to "want" to be here.

Only cheap for one more year. Then he won't be.

Agree. Love Naz, but if he has value around the league then it might be time to cash out. At some point, perhaps as early as the start of next season, he's going to earn himself a larger role that we won't be able to give him so long as Kat stays healthy.

How expensive are we expecting him to be?

If him playing the 4 is in the cards long term I'd be willing to pay him 10mil per, especially if he continues improving.

shangrila · Post #38 » by **shangrila** » Sat Jul 17, 2021 12:02 am

moonpie wrote:

Read on Twitter

Seems more like speculation.

I don't understand the fascination with Markannen. He can shoot, granted, but he's never healthy, can't defend or rebound and IIRC there were rumblings about him being upset about his role a while back.

He's a slightly better rebounding Bertans and I wouldn't want either at Bertans' contract, let alone whatever Lauri might end up costing.

shrink · Post #39 » by **shrink** » Sat Jul 17, 2021 12:08 am

shangrila wrote:
moonpie wrote:

Read on Twitter

Seems more like speculation.

I don't understand the fascination with Markannen. He can shoot, granted, but he's never healthy, can't defend or rebound and IIRC there were rumblings about him being upset about his role a while back.

He's a slightly better rebounding Bertans and I wouldn't want either at Bertans' contract, let alone whatever Lauri might end up costing.

Let’s use Rosas’ checklist from the end of season interview

Defend the rim? No
Defend the pick and roll? No
Rebound? No

I don’t get it either.

Post #40 » by **Klomp** » Sat Jul 17, 2021 12:09 am

shangrila wrote:
Krapinsky wrote:
Klomp wrote:Only cheap for one more year. Then he won't be.

Agree. Love Naz, but if he has value around the league then it might be time to cash out. At some point, perhaps as early as the start of next season, he's going to earn himself a larger role that we won't be able to give him so long as Kat stays healthy.

How expensive are we expecting him to be?

If him playing the 4 is in the cards long term I'd be willing to pay him 10mil per, especially if he continues improving.

I think $10-12 million per is the low end of his range.