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Who takes a leap this season?

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Re: Who takes a leap this season? 

Post#21 » by Krapinsky » Fri Oct 1, 2021 3:24 am

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MN7725 wrote:Nowell, he'll outplay Beverly

Nowell is always the forgotten man. Someone said he was better than Beasley last season. I disagree but he has a chance to be because he can create his own shot. If he became a good shooter this season his stock goes way up.


Sadly I think he'll be forgotten again this year too. hard to find the minutes for him absent an injury / blow out situation.
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Re: Who takes a leap this season? 

Post#22 » by Nick K » Fri Oct 1, 2021 3:41 am

"Calinks"]Generally, a talented young player takes a jump at some point in their career. The wolves have a lot of young guys who have either been around for a few years or are just entering their development. Who on the roaster do you think takes a leap and separates themselves from previous perceptions?

Even though he is now one of our vets, I think Dlo's stock is going to go way up this season. Right now a lot of people see him as a pretty bad contract, I think his current contract will seem fair by the season's end.
I would love to see Okogie take a leap and start hitting shots, that would change his whole career.


I totally agree on Dlo. Haters will love him by years end. He can be 3rd fiddle and kill it. Perfect for him.

I think the big positive surprise will be Mc D. He'll make the jump to a good offensive player to go along with his fine defensive play. You can already see it happening. He's adding muscle as all the important Wolves are. You can really tell. Ant looks un-blee-bull. :)

I see no room on this team for Layman or Okogie getting much in minutes.
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Re: Who takes a leap this season? 

Post#23 » by Krapinsky » Fri Oct 1, 2021 4:16 am

Key for McDaniels to me isn’t body or skills development, it’s his mentality. Can he be assertive or will he continue to play timid and disappear like he did in college and his rookie year? He’s always had the talent, just not willingness to use it.
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Re: Who takes a leap this season? 

Post#24 » by Worm Guts » Fri Oct 1, 2021 4:58 am

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Krapinsky wrote:What does a leap for Ant even look like? He was 24-5-3.5 after the all star break last year.


Doing it for a full year, and in games that matter.


So Ant leap = maintaining status quo from where he ended up last year but on a winning team?


It’s not really the status quo until he’s done it for a full season IMO. Wiggins had several runs of around 20 games that made him look like an All-Star.
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Re: Who takes a leap this season? 

Post#25 » by Rookie-Mistake » Fri Oct 1, 2021 6:03 am

Naz Reid.

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Re: Who takes a leap this season? 

Post#26 » by Wolf Wiggum 41 » Fri Oct 1, 2021 1:13 pm

I'm going with KAT.
It will be a tough season for the Wolves if KAT does not improve significantly.
Durability, Defense, Toughness in the paint.
As for Ant I hope he proves his development in the second half of last season is for real.
He needs to be serious about becoming a top player in the league and really focused on his play, not so much on everything around it.
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Re: Who takes a leap this season? 

Post#27 » by Klomp » Fri Oct 1, 2021 3:17 pm

Krapinsky wrote:What does a leap for Ant even look like? He was 24-5-3.5 after the all star break last year.

Unfortunately, these are the perceptions we still have to deal with.....

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29. Anthony Edwards

Why he missed: Edwards put up some monster scoring totals and some eye-popping highlights as a rookie but his game still has a lot of rough edges to be sanded down. His true shooting percentage was well below league average and he frequently bailed opponents out with questionable shot attempts. For a player with his physical tools, it seems absurd that more than a quarter of his shots were pull-up jumpers — he even attempted more pull-up jumpers than free throws. Edwards’ rookie season demonstrated his immense potential but he still has a long way to go before he’s fully translating his tool into positive on-court impact.

Why we might look stupid: It’s possible Edwards develops a lot faster than anyone is expecting. His true shooting percentage improved every single month last season, settling at 65.4 percent across eight games in April. You could almost see him putting things together in real-time last season and when it clicks, it clicks.
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Re: Who takes a leap this season? 

Post#28 » by NebWolvesFan » Fri Oct 1, 2021 3:50 pm

I think Nowell could be very interesting this year. If Beasley gets traded - and I think he will - then Nowell could get consistent minutes and I think he could be a better driver and defender than Beasley.
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Re: Who takes a leap this season? 

Post#29 » by KGdaBom » Fri Oct 1, 2021 4:05 pm

Klomp wrote:
Krapinsky wrote:What does a leap for Ant even look like? He was 24-5-3.5 after the all star break last year.

Unfortunately, these are the perceptions we still have to deal with.....

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29. Anthony Edwards

Why he missed: Edwards put up some monster scoring totals and some eye-popping highlights as a rookie but his game still has a lot of rough edges to be sanded down. His true shooting percentage was well below league average and he frequently bailed opponents out with questionable shot attempts. For a player with his physical tools, it seems absurd that more than a quarter of his shots were pull-up jumpers — he even attempted more pull-up jumpers than free throws. Edwards’ rookie season demonstrated his immense potential but he still has a long way to go before he’s fully translating his tool into positive on-court impact.

Why we might look stupid: It’s possible Edwards develops a lot faster than anyone is expecting. His true shooting percentage improved every single month last season, settling at 65.4 percent across eight games in April. You could almost see him putting things together in real-time last season and when it clicks, it clicks.

This is seriously beyond absurd. The #1 pick in the draft coming off an incredibly productive year and gets ranked below Kevin Huerter.
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Re: Who takes a leap this season? 

Post#30 » by Calinks » Fri Oct 1, 2021 4:35 pm

Klomp wrote:
Krapinsky wrote:What does a leap for Ant even look like? He was 24-5-3.5 after the all star break last year.

Unfortunately, these are the perceptions we still have to deal with.....

Read on Twitter


29. Anthony Edwards

Why he missed: Edwards put up some monster scoring totals and some eye-popping highlights as a rookie but his game still has a lot of rough edges to be sanded down. His true shooting percentage was well below league average and he frequently bailed opponents out with questionable shot attempts. For a player with his physical tools, it seems absurd that more than a quarter of his shots were pull-up jumpers — he even attempted more pull-up jumpers than free throws. Edwards’ rookie season demonstrated his immense potential but he still has a long way to go before he’s fully translating his tool into positive on-court impact.

Why we might look stupid: It’s possible Edwards develops a lot faster than anyone is expecting. His true shooting percentage improved every single month last season, settling at 65.4 percent across eight games in April. You could almost see him putting things together in real-time last season and when it clicks, it clicks.


Tyrese Haliburton: 20
Cade Cunningham (who hasn't played 1 game): 18
Lamelo Ball: 12

This is why so much of the National Media coverage sucks. In NBA winning and market go a long way towards building your hype. Granted Edwards had big struggles but what he showed after the all-star break easily puts him in the conversation with all these guys. It's just he's on the wolves and the wolves suck so he doesn't make the cut.

If he was on the Lakers and put up these numbers he'd be top 10.

This is like the empty stats argument I see. I hate it. Sure there can be some inflation but a guy putting up eye-popping stats is putting up eye-popping stats. Being on a bad team doesn't boost a player's abilities through the roof. If you can get 20 and 10 on a bad team you can produce very close to that on a good team. The only exception is when you are on a team so stacked you have to sacrifice some stats.

I hope Ant blows Haliburton and Ball out of the water this season.
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Re: Who takes a leap this season? 

Post#31 » by jpatrick » Fri Oct 1, 2021 4:55 pm

Ant’s biggest problem nationally is that if you look at his season as a whole, he was one of the most inefficient players in the league. Thus, the questions regarding whether he’ll be a “winning” type player. We know that those numbers are largely because in the first half, he was literally the most harmful player to winning in the NBA statistically, but took a jump after the all star break. But the perception remains.
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Re: Who takes a leap this season? 

Post#32 » by Klomp » Fri Oct 1, 2021 4:56 pm

I think the 15-20 range would've been reasonable for Ant, wasn't expecting Top 5 or anything. But 29 is disrespectful.
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Re: Who takes a leap this season? 

Post#33 » by Baseline81 » Fri Oct 1, 2021 5:10 pm

jpatrick wrote:Ant’s biggest problem nationally is that if you look at his season as a whole, he was one of the most inefficient players in the league. Thus, the questions regarding whether he’ll be a “winning” type player. We know that those numbers are largely because in the first half, he was literally the most harmful player to winning in the NBA statistically, but took a jump after the all star break. But the perception remains.

He also happened to be coached by Saunders in the first half...
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Re: Who takes a leap this season? 

Post#34 » by NebWolvesFan » Fri Oct 1, 2021 5:33 pm

Ant is perfect for click bait. You can use his rough first 7 weeks in the league as the reason to drop him and generate responses. Common sense says a rookie's last 12 weeks outweigh his initial weeks, but these stories are about generating comments. Saying his shooting percentage was way low to put in top 25 is convenient considering how well Ant shot once he got his feet wet. It's like a rookie batting .100 his first two months and then over .300 each month for the rest of the season and finishing with a .240 batting average. You can say he's a below average hitter, but we all know better.
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Re: Who takes a leap this season? 

Post#35 » by Klomp » Fri Oct 1, 2021 9:06 pm

This is the scariest part for the league of any possible Ant leap.

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Re: Who takes a leap this season? 

Post#36 » by Note30 » Sat Oct 2, 2021 9:00 am

Klomp wrote:This is the scariest part for the league of any possible Ant leap.

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Re: Who takes a leap this season? 

Post#37 » by Merc_Porto » Sat Oct 2, 2021 11:20 am

Calinks wrote:
Klomp wrote:
Krapinsky wrote:What does a leap for Ant even look like? He was 24-5-3.5 after the all star break last year.

Unfortunately, these are the perceptions we still have to deal with.....

Read on Twitter


29. Anthony Edwards

Why he missed: Edwards put up some monster scoring totals and some eye-popping highlights as a rookie but his game still has a lot of rough edges to be sanded down. His true shooting percentage was well below league average and he frequently bailed opponents out with questionable shot attempts. For a player with his physical tools, it seems absurd that more than a quarter of his shots were pull-up jumpers — he even attempted more pull-up jumpers than free throws. Edwards’ rookie season demonstrated his immense potential but he still has a long way to go before he’s fully translating his tool into positive on-court impact.

Why we might look stupid: It’s possible Edwards develops a lot faster than anyone is expecting. His true shooting percentage improved every single month last season, settling at 65.4 percent across eight games in April. You could almost see him putting things together in real-time last season and when it clicks, it clicks.


Tyrese Haliburton: 20
Cade Cunningham (who hasn't played 1 game): 18
Lamelo Ball: 12

This is why so much of the National Media coverage sucks. In NBA winning and market go a long way towards building your hype. Granted Edwards had big struggles but what he showed after the all-star break easily puts him in the conversation with all these guys. It's just he's on the wolves and the wolves suck so he doesn't make the cut.

If he was on the Lakers and put up these numbers he'd be top 10.

This is like the empty stats argument I see. I hate it. Sure there can be some inflation but a guy putting up eye-popping stats is putting up eye-popping stats. Being on a bad team doesn't boost a player's abilities through the roof. If you can get 20 and 10 on a bad team you can produce very close to that on a good team. The only exception is when you are on a team so stacked you have to sacrifice some stats.

I hope Ant blows Haliburton and Ball out of the water this season.


Oh wow, this is so disrespectful. I get Lamelo being higher than Ant, but to be that higher is crazy.
The Haliburton one is just hilarious tho. Not even mention the Cade one.

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Re: Who takes a leap this season? 

Post#38 » by MN7725 » Sun Oct 3, 2021 11:03 pm

Krapinsky wrote:
Calinks wrote:
MN7725 wrote:Nowell, he'll outplay Beverly

Nowell is always the forgotten man. Someone said he was better than Beasley last season. I disagree but he has a chance to be because he can create his own shot. If he became a good shooter this season his stock goes way up.


Sadly I think he'll be forgotten again this year too. hard to find the minutes for him absent an injury / blow out situation.


I don't think Nowell will get regular rotation minutes unless there is injuries, but when he does play he will outplay Beverly, and will maybe even show more of an all-around game than Beasley
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Re: Who takes a leap this season? 

Post#39 » by winforlose » Mon Oct 4, 2021 12:32 am

MN7725 wrote:
Krapinsky wrote:
Calinks wrote:Nowell is always the forgotten man. Someone said he was better than Beasley last season. I disagree but he has a chance to be because he can create his own shot. If he became a good shooter this season his stock goes way up.


Sadly I think he'll be forgotten again this year too. hard to find the minutes for him absent an injury / blow out situation.


I don't think Nowell will get regular rotation minutes unless there is injuries, but when he does play he will outplay Beverly, and will maybe even show more of an all-around game than Beasley


Ant will likely play the 3 and Beasley will start at the 2. When that happens Nowell is backup SG and will play with Beverly. Also we could see Beasley play the 3 in small ball beside Beverly and Nowell with MCD and Reid. Just some predictions, but I fully expect Nowell to get regular run as a part of the rotation.
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Re: Who takes a leap this season? 

Post#40 » by MN7725 » Mon Oct 4, 2021 2:28 am

winforlose wrote:
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Krapinsky wrote:
Sadly I think he'll be forgotten again this year too. hard to find the minutes for him absent an injury / blow out situation.


I don't think Nowell will get regular rotation minutes unless there is injuries, but when he does play he will outplay Beverly, and will maybe even show more of an all-around game than Beasley


Ant will likely play the 3 and Beasley will start at the 2. When that happens Nowell is backup SG and will play with Beverly. Also we could see Beasley play the 3 in small ball beside Beverly and Nowell with MCD and Reid. Just some predictions, but I fully expect Nowell to get regular run as a part of the rotation.


I'm doubtful

KAT, Vanderbilt, Jaden, ANT, Russell, Beasley, Naz, Beverly, Prince will be the nine man rotation

Nowell, Okogie, Bolmaro, Layman, JMAC will be fighting for scraps

I think it would require multi-week injuries for Nowell to get anything approaching regular minutes in competitive games (not end of game minutes in a blowout)

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