Assessing the buyout market

Nick K · Post #21 » by **Nick K** » Tue Feb 15, 2022 4:36 pm

Calinks wrote:I'm interested in Cauley-Stein too, why is he floating around? What's the issue?

I've liked him for a long time but he really has been a disappointment as a player. Something is off there with him. I hate to say it but I'd pass on him.

Nick K · Post #22 » by **Nick K** » Tue Feb 15, 2022 4:38 pm

Clav wrote:PF has been an issue all season, and Monroe isn't going to fix that problem. A veteran presence that is impactful on the court will be difficult to field in the buyout market.

i wouldn't get wrapped up in position labels, PF/ C etc. We need size and rebounding and Moose gives us that for very little money.

thinktank · Post #23 » by **thinktank** » Tue Feb 15, 2022 5:16 pm

wolves_89 wrote:
Mamba4Goat wrote:
Calinks wrote:I'm interested in Cauley-Stein too, why is he floating around? What's the issue?

It sounds like he took a leave of absence to deal with some personal stuff and Dallas eventually waived him for Chriss. If everything is alright and he’s ready to return to basketball he’d be a huge get for Minny and fit with what they want/need at the 5. Has history with KAT at college too.

If WCS is able to play again he would be a great addition. The question is whether he has resolved whatever issue he was dealing with. I'm guessing Dallas only waived him because they didn't see him being available in the foreseeable future.

My guess is he has a substance abuse problem.

https://www.capradio.org/articles/2019/10/31/former-kings-player-sued-for-2-million-after-a-person-living-in-the-house-he-rented-killed-one-and-shot-two-others/

Biff Cooper · Post #24 » by **Biff Cooper** » Mon Feb 21, 2022 2:45 pm

Any current good rumors about who we might be bringing in? Wouldn't be surprised to see someone brought in this week.

winforlose · Post #25 » by **winforlose** » Mon Feb 21, 2022 3:25 pm

Biff Cooper wrote:Any current good rumors about who we might be bringing in? Wouldn't be surprised to see someone brought in this week.

We need to wait till March to stay under the tax. Literally not possible this week.

NebWolvesFan · Post #26 » by **NebWolvesFan** » Mon Feb 21, 2022 9:02 pm

I don't see the Timberwolves picking anyone up. There isn't a good fit out there and they are so close to the tax. I think they will decide they are fine.

NebWolvesFan · Post #27 » by **NebWolvesFan** » Mon Feb 21, 2022 9:04 pm

I don't see the Timberwolves picking anyone up. There isn't a good fit out there and they are so close to the tax. I think they will decide they are fine.

Biff Cooper · Post #28 » by **Biff Cooper** » Mon Feb 21, 2022 9:11 pm

winforlose wrote:
Biff Cooper wrote:Any current good rumors about who we might be bringing in? Wouldn't be surprised to see someone brought in this week.

We need to wait till March to stay under the tax. Literally not possible this week.

We do not need to wait if the player is signing a minimum contract for the remainder of the year. We will not go into the luxury tax. The rate that a minimum player counts against the cap is not that high, and it is pro-rated for the portion of the year remaining.

Biff Cooper · Post #29 » by **Biff Cooper** » Mon Feb 21, 2022 9:18 pm

http://www.cbafaq.com/salarycap.htm#Q22

When a player has been in the NBA for three or more seasons, and is playing under a one-year, 10-day or Rest-of-Season contract at the minimum salary, the league reimburses the team for part of his salary -- any amount above the minimum salary for a two-year veteran. For example, the minimum salary for a two-year veteran in 2017-18 is $1,471,382, so for a ten-year veteran, with a minimum salary of $2,328,652, the league would reimburse the team $857,270. Only the two-year minimum salary is included in the team salary, not the player's full salary. They do this so teams won't shy away from signing older veterans simply because they are more expensive than younger veterans.

winforlose · Post #30 » by **winforlose** » Mon Feb 21, 2022 9:57 pm

Biff Cooper wrote:
winforlose wrote:
Biff Cooper wrote:Any current good rumors about who we might be bringing in? Wouldn't be surprised to see someone brought in this week.

We need to wait till March to stay under the tax. Literally not possible this week.

We do not need to wait if the player is signing a minimum contract for the remainder of the year. We will not go into the luxury tax. The rate that a minimum player counts against the cap is not that high, and it is pro-rated for the portion of the year remaining.

Somewhere on this thread or the trade thread Gupta specifically said we would add someone in March when they wouldn’t put us over the tax. You could be right, but my understanding is it has to wait.

winforlose · Post #31 » by **winforlose** » Mon Feb 21, 2022 9:57 pm

Klomp wrote:

Read on Twitter

Biff this is what I was talking about.

Post #32 » by **Klomp** » Mon Feb 21, 2022 11:30 pm

Biff Cooper wrote:
winforlose wrote:
Biff Cooper wrote:Any current good rumors about who we might be bringing in? Wouldn't be surprised to see someone brought in this week.

We need to wait till March to stay under the tax. Literally not possible this week.

We do not need to wait if the player is signing a minimum contract for the remainder of the year. We will not go into the luxury tax. The rate that a minimum player counts against the cap is not that high, and it is pro-rated for the portion of the year remaining.

Read on Twitter

Post #33 » by **Mamba4Goat** » Tue Feb 22, 2022 5:36 am

I wouldn’t hate getting Carter off of the buyout market if Minnesota can’t get WCS.

Biff Cooper · Post #34 » by **Biff Cooper** » Tue Feb 22, 2022 5:41 pm

Klomp wrote:
Biff Cooper wrote:
winforlose wrote:
We need to wait till March to stay under the tax. Literally not possible this week.

We do not need to wait if the player is signing a minimum contract for the remainder of the year. We will not go into the luxury tax. The rate that a minimum player counts against the cap is not that high, and it is pro-rated for the portion of the year remaining.

Read on Twitter

Thanks Klomp. I guess that is the reason - even if unlikely. The chances of both bonuses hitting are even more unlikely. I'd think they could make a deal now if they wanted to, but as long at Towns, Reid and Vanderbilt are all healthy, and there is not someone out there that they love, they will probably wait.

Post #35 » by **Calinks** » Tue Feb 22, 2022 11:03 pm

76ers snatched up Cauley Stein. Weak,

winforlose · Post #36 » by **winforlose** » Tue Feb 22, 2022 11:25 pm

Calinks wrote:76ers snatched up Cauley Stein. Weak,

I read 10 day. Could be free again, but I think we are focusing on Moose.

Nick K · Post #37 » by **Nick K** » Wed Feb 23, 2022 2:30 am

winforlose wrote:
Biff Cooper wrote:
winforlose wrote:
We need to wait till March to stay under the tax. Literally not possible this week.

We do not need to wait if the player is signing a minimum contract for the remainder of the year. We will not go into the luxury tax. The rate that a minimum player counts against the cap is not that high, and it is pro-rated for the portion of the year remaining.

Somewhere on this thread or the trade thread Gupta specifically said we would add someone in March when they wouldn’t put us over the tax. You could be right, but my understanding is it has to wait.

You are correct.

Biff Cooper · Post #38 » by **Biff Cooper** » Fri Feb 25, 2022 8:05 pm

winforlose wrote:
Klomp wrote:

Read on Twitter

Biff this is what I was talking about.

If they are saving the $334,375 x 2 and they only have $825K under the cap, that means they want to wait until March 24th to sign someone. Not exactly early March. Maybe by early April, they will have decided that at least one of the bonuses is completely safe from not being paid out?

winforlose · Post #39 » by **winforlose** » Fri Feb 25, 2022 8:09 pm

Biff Cooper wrote:
winforlose wrote:
Klomp wrote:

Read on Twitter

Biff this is what I was talking about.

If they are saving the $334,375 x 2 and they only have $825K under the cap, that means they want to wait until March 24th to sign someone. Not exactly early March. Maybe by early April, they will have decided that at least one of the bonuses is completely safe from not being paid out?

I honestly don’t know if that is what they are waiting for. They could always bench prince in a pinch. Either way we need some size ASAP.

NebWolvesFan · Post #40 » by **NebWolvesFan** » Fri Feb 25, 2022 9:18 pm

Don't be surprised if Minnesota eventually signs Chris Silva for the I15th spot. He's back with Iowa, knows the offense and defense Finch wants to run, and could step in at PF or C if there are injuries. I know it's not sexy, but it makes sense. They could sign Monroe as well now that he's in the G League, but my gut tells me it will be Silva.