Re: Trade Talk (Part Eleven): 2022 Offseason Edition

[Baseline81]

Atlanta could still be in on Gobert, maybe we can snag Capela? Atl just traded Huerter and got a pick, opens the door for them needing a shooter like Beasley.

More than likely this frees the glut at guard (with the addition of Murray) and helps offset the pick loss.

[TwolvesFanRome]

Brogdon off the board.

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Really good deal for Boston, damn. If he can be healthy in the playoffs that's great for them.

It is not a poor deal for IND???

[Note30]

Huerter and Brogdon basically for very little, no guards signed in FA. If the Wolves only have DLo, Bev, McLaughlin, Beasley as our supporting guards around Edwards when opening day starts, I'm gonna start a fire Tim Connelly thread.

[Krapinsky]

Would you be okay trading for Gobert if it meant McDaniels was going the other way?

I would, but it would have to include Russell. Do they have a decent guard on a smallish contract we could get back? I don't think a legit starting PG other than Russell is on our roster so we would have to have something worked out for that.

Pretty much they only have Conley, and that deal is far from small, lol.

Beasley + Russell + Prince for Conley + Gobert works in the trade checker.

Would there a better "Big 3" in the NBA next year than Edwards-Towns-Gobert? I'm not sure. I think you can make the case that is the best BIG 3 in the entire NBA. Gobert and Towns are aleady All-NBA. You can envision Edwards making the leap to All-NBA next year.

Conley/Beverly/J-Mac
Edwards/Nowell/Moore Jr
Slomo/McDaniels/Bolmaro
Towns/Vanderbilt
Gobert/Reid/Kessler

[shrink]

Brogdon off the board.

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Really good deal for Boston, damn. If he can be healthy in the playoffs that's great for them.

It is not a poor deal for IND???

I expected more for IND. But personally, I am too worried about his injury history to see that deal as much more than neutral. I thought IND expected a more positive return. He has missed significant time in each of the last three years, but they were from three separate injuries. The Pacers signed him to that extension like nine months ago, so I thought they didn’t buy into the injury risk.

[_AIJ_]

Please be Myles Turner

[winforlose]

Huerter and Brogdon basically for very little, no guards signed in FA. If the Wolves only have DLo, Bev, McLaughlin, Beasley as our supporting guards around Edwards when opening day starts, I'm gonna start a fire Tim Connelly thread.

I am lost. First, Finch said he wants Nowell to have a bigger role. Nowell is a guard who can play PG or SG and has had success with both. Second, Moore was drafted as a combo guard. Ant is also a SG. That means we are four deep at PG and four deep at SG. Not to mention Lea can play either guard position in a pinch. See the list below. We clearly plan to make more trades, and didn’t have a lot of roster spots. Third. Is your objection about the quality of our guards or that we missed out on Brogdon? Brogdon has a terrible injury history and isn’t worth the money.

PG: Dlo, Bev, JMAC, Nowell
SG: Ant, Beasley, Moore, Nowell

[Dewey]

I would, but it would have to include Russell. Do they have a decent guard on a smallish contract we could get back? I don't think a legit starting PG other than Russell is on our roster so we would have to have something worked out for that.

Pretty much they only have Conley, and that deal is far from small, lol.

Beasley + Russell + Prince for Conley + Gobert works in the trade checker.

Would there a better "Big 3" in the NBA next year than Edwards-Towns-Gobert? I'm not sure. I think you can make the case that is the best BIG 3 in the entire NBA. Gobert and Towns are aleady All-NBA. You can envision Edwards making the leap to All-NBA next year.

Conley/Beverly/J-Mac
Edwards/Nowell/Moore Jr
Slomo/McDaniels/Bolmaro
Towns/Vanderbilt
Gobert/Reid/Kessler

I like this …

[Note30]

I would, but it would have to include Russell. Do they have a decent guard on a smallish contract we could get back? I don't think a legit starting PG other than Russell is on our roster so we would have to have something worked out for that.

Pretty much they only have Conley, and that deal is far from small, lol.

Beasley + Russell + Prince for Conley + Gobert works in the trade checker.

Would there a better "Big 3" in the NBA next year than Edwards-Towns-Gobert? I'm not sure. I think you can make the case that is the best BIG 3 in the entire NBA. Gobert and Towns are aleady All-NBA. You can envision Edwards making the leap to All-NBA next year.

Conley/Beverly/J-Mac
Edwards/Nowell/Moore Jr
Slomo/McDaniels/Bolmaro
Towns/Vanderbilt
Gobert/Reid/Kessler

I don't think you can trade Prince. right now. And yuck to all of that. If we're getting any guard from the jazz I hope it's Clarkson

[Baseline81]

Please be Myles Turner

I'd like for the Wolves to target him, but I don't see how a deal happens without a third team.

[Note30]

Huerter and Brogdon basically for very little, no guards signed in FA. If the Wolves only have DLo, Bev, McLaughlin, Beasley as our supporting guards around Edwards when opening day starts, I'm gonna start a fire Tim Connelly thread.

I am lost. First, Finch said he wants Nowell to have a bigger role. Nowell is a guard who can play PG or SG and has had success with both. Second, Moore was drafted as a combo guard. Ant is also a SG. That means we are four deep at PG and four deep at SG. Not to mention Lea can play either guard position in a pinch. See the list below. We clearly plan to make more trades, and didn’t have a lot of roster spots. Third. Is your objection about the quality of our guards or that we missed out on Brogdon? Brogdon has a terrible injury history and isn’t worth the money.

PG: Dlo, Bev, JMAC, Nowell
SG: Ant, Beasley, Moore, Nowell

DLo is trash, Bev is solid, Jmac is trash, Nowell is meh.
Beasley is inconsistent and Moore is an unknown.

We lost our playoffs because of a lack of bigs and a decent guard next to Edwards.

No it's about missing out on Zach, Murray, Huerter, Simons, and all the other guards.

[BlacJacMac]

Pretty much they only have Conley, and that deal is far from small, lol.

Beasley + Russell + Prince for Conley + Gobert works in the trade checker.

Would there a better "Big 3" in the NBA next year than Edwards-Towns-Gobert? I'm not sure. I think you can make the case that is the best BIG 3 in the entire NBA. Gobert and Towns are aleady All-NBA. You can envision Edwards making the leap to All-NBA next year.

Conley/Beverly/J-Mac
Edwards/Nowell/Moore Jr
Slomo/McDaniels/Bolmaro
Towns/Vanderbilt
Gobert/Reid/Kessler

I don't think you can trade Prince. right now. And yuck to all of that. If we're getting any guard from the jazz I hope it's Clarkson

We can. Because we extended him in June and he's making less than his old contract, he can be traded immediately. There is no waiting period.

[Note30]

Beasley + Russell + Prince for Conley + Gobert works in the trade checker.

Would there a better "Big 3" in the NBA next year than Edwards-Towns-Gobert? I'm not sure. I think you can make the case that is the best BIG 3 in the entire NBA. Gobert and Towns are aleady All-NBA. You can envision Edwards making the leap to All-NBA next year.

Conley/Beverly/J-Mac
Edwards/Nowell/Moore Jr
Slomo/McDaniels/Bolmaro
Towns/Vanderbilt
Gobert/Reid/Kessler

I don't think you can trade Prince. right now. And yuck to all of that. If we're getting any guard from the jazz I hope it's Clarkson

We can. Because we extended him in June and he's making less than his old contract, he can be traded immediately. There is no waiting period.

Why don't teams just use this as a method to get around the sign and trade hard cap?

[Krapinsky]

Please be Myles Turner

Myles Turner would be nice and all, but in my opinion that would be like trading for a Corvette when you can get a Ferrari.

Gobert is pricey but his impact is so much greater than Turner's. And Turner will have to get paid after next year.

[BlacJacMac]

I don't think you can trade Prince. right now. And yuck to all of that. If we're getting any guard from the jazz I hope it's Clarkson

We can. Because we extended him in June and he's making less than his old contract, he can be traded immediately. There is no waiting period.

Why don't teams just use this as a method to get around the sign and trade hard cap?

I believe there are significant limitations on extensions in both years and dollars.

They're great for short deals that aren't raises - like Prince or Beasley last year.

[BlacJacMac]

Please be Myles Turner

Myles Turner would be nice and all, but in my opinion that would be like trading for a Corvette when you can get a Ferrari.

Gobert is pricey but his impact is so much greater than Turner's. And Turner will have to get paid after next year.

I wager it won't be anywhere near 43M/year...

[winforlose]

I don't think you can trade Prince. right now. And yuck to all of that. If we're getting any guard from the jazz I hope it's Clarkson

We can. Because we extended him in June and he's making less than his old contract, he can be traded immediately. There is no waiting period.

Why don't teams just use this as a method to get around the sign and trade hard cap?

That would require the player taking less money. Most agents don’t want that. Also any sign and trade still hard caps. The only difference is the waiting period.

To your other point, guys like Simons were never an option. Most of the best guards were locked up already. Also worth noting that we had the MLE and that’s it. We need size more than we need ball handling at this point. We also clearly plan to make at least one more move.

[slick21]

Seems like IND is open for business. Let's do Beasley, Reid, and a top 10 protected 1st for Turner.

[moss_is_1]

Please be Myles Turner

Myles Turner would be nice and all, but in my opinion that would be like trading for a Corvette when you can get a Ferrari.

Gobert is pricey but his impact is so much greater than Turner's. And Turner will have to get paid after next year.

I wager it won't be anywhere near 43M/year...

Gobert also makes that much of an impact. Turner is a good big, Gobert is all-nba, DPOTY caliber. Top 15-20ish.

[Baseline81]

Please be Myles Turner

Myles Turner would be nice and all, but in my opinion that would be like trading for a Corvette when you can get a Ferrari.

Gobert is pricey but his impact is so much greater than Turner's. And Turner will have to get paid after next year.

And in going after the Ferrari you've blow your life savings.

Unless I'm mistaken Gobert is not coming cheap. Utah is going to want a haul of picks, just like San Antonio received for Murray.