Domejandro wrote:Absolute agony listening to them describe the Rudy Gobert vs. Nikola Jokić match-up, when we are two years deep into Karl-Anthony Towns being his primary defender.
And Chuck thinks Gordon will defend Ant




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Domejandro wrote:Absolute agony listening to them describe the Rudy Gobert vs. Nikola Jokić match-up, when we are two years deep into Karl-Anthony Towns being his primary defender.
Shaka_Zulu wrote:Domejandro wrote:Absolute agony listening to them describe the Rudy Gobert vs. Nikola Jokić match-up, when we are two years deep into Karl-Anthony Towns being his primary defender.
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I love Chuck, but he is clueless when it comes to Wolves, never watches us. Clearly Kenny and times the other two show they seen wolves games unlike Chuck. He has no idea what the defensive matchups have been. Rudy on Joker and Gordon on Ant is just blissful ignorance from a NBA expert.
tsherkin wrote:The important thing to take away here is that Klomp is wrong.
Esohny wrote:Why are you asking Klomp? "He's" actually a bot that posts random blurbs from a database.
Klomp wrote:I'm putting the tired in retired mod at the moment
tsherkin wrote:The important thing to take away here is that Klomp is wrong.
Esohny wrote:Why are you asking Klomp? "He's" actually a bot that posts random blurbs from a database.
Klomp wrote:I'm putting the tired in retired mod at the moment
Klomp wrote:Shaka_Zulu wrote:Domejandro wrote:Absolute agony listening to them describe the Rudy Gobert vs. Nikola Jokić match-up, when we are two years deep into Karl-Anthony Towns being his primary defender.
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I love Chuck, but he is clueless when it comes to Wolves, never watches us. Clearly Kenny and times the other two show they seen wolves games unlike Chuck. He has no idea what the defensive matchups have been. Rudy on Joker and Gordon on Ant is just blissful ignorance from a NBA expert.
I wouldn't rule out the Gordon one, as it's their best chance to slow down Ant. When KAT hasn't been in games, I'm pretty sure Gordon has guarded Ant.
winforlose wrote:Listening to Dane Moore and a weird idea struck me. I have not really thought this thru at all, so it might be really dumb. I mean this idea just popped into my head like less than a minute ago. I just wanted to talk it through with people. What if Ant was matched up with Gordon, and floated. Karl on MPJ, Rudy on Joker, Mike on KCP, and Jaden on Murray. Now Ant can double Murray whenever he catches the ball, can help on MPJ whenever Karl is screened, and can help on Joker whenever he catches in the high post. Again, I have not really thought this through. It is a top of my head crazy thought, I just wanted to hear other people talk about it (sounding board.)
BlacJacMac wrote:winforlose wrote:Listening to Dane Moore and a weird idea struck me. I have not really thought this thru at all, so it might be really dumb. I mean this idea just popped into my head like less than a minute ago. I just wanted to talk it through with people. What if Ant was matched up with Gordon, and floated. Karl on MPJ, Rudy on Joker, Mike on KCP, and Jaden on Murray. Now Ant can double Murray whenever he catches the ball, can help on MPJ whenever Karl is screened, and can help on Joker whenever he catches in the high post. Again, I have not really thought this through. It is a top of my head crazy thought, I just wanted to hear other people talk about it (sounding board.)
I think you're putting Rudy at a much bigger risk of foul trouble and not really gaining anything elsewhere.
winforlose wrote:BlacJacMac wrote:winforlose wrote:Listening to Dane Moore and a weird idea struck me. I have not really thought this thru at all, so it might be really dumb. I mean this idea just popped into my head like less than a minute ago. I just wanted to talk it through with people. What if Ant was matched up with Gordon, and floated. Karl on MPJ, Rudy on Joker, Mike on KCP, and Jaden on Murray. Now Ant can double Murray whenever he catches the ball, can help on MPJ whenever Karl is screened, and can help on Joker whenever he catches in the high post. Again, I have not really thought this through. It is a top of my head crazy thought, I just wanted to hear other people talk about it (sounding board.)
I think you're putting Rudy at a much bigger risk of foul trouble and not really gaining anything elsewhere.
Ant in help is faster and can trap better. Might deny Jokic the catch on some post ups, might deter some Jamal Murray drives, and might be more effective in switching scheme. But then again, Rudy isn’t exactly slow.
winforlose wrote:Listening to Dane Moore and a weird idea struck me. I have not really thought this thru at all, so it might be really dumb. I mean this idea just popped into my head like less than a minute ago. I just wanted to talk it through with people. What if Ant was matched up with Gordon, and floated. Karl on MPJ, Rudy on Joker, Mike on KCP, and Jaden on Murray. Now Ant can double Murray whenever he catches the ball, can help on MPJ whenever Karl is screened, and can help on Joker whenever he catches in the high post. Again, I have not really thought this through. It is a top of my head crazy thought, I just wanted to hear other people talk about it (sounding board.)
tsherkin wrote:The important thing to take away here is that Klomp is wrong.
Esohny wrote:Why are you asking Klomp? "He's" actually a bot that posts random blurbs from a database.
Klomp wrote:I'm putting the tired in retired mod at the moment
winforlose wrote:Listening to Dane Moore and a weird idea struck me. I have not really thought this thru at all, so it might be really dumb. I mean this idea just popped into my head like less than a minute ago. I just wanted to talk it through with people. What if Ant was matched up with Gordon, and floated. Karl on MPJ, Rudy on Joker, Mike on KCP, and Jaden on Murray. Now Ant can double Murray whenever he catches the ball, can help on MPJ whenever Karl is screened, and can help on Joker whenever he catches in the high post. Again, I have not really thought this through. It is a top of my head crazy thought, I just wanted to hear other people talk about it (sounding board.)
Domejandro wrote:winforlose wrote:Listening to Dane Moore and a weird idea struck me. I have not really thought this thru at all, so it might be really dumb. I mean this idea just popped into my head like less than a minute ago. I just wanted to talk it through with people. What if Ant was matched up with Gordon, and floated. Karl on MPJ, Rudy on Joker, Mike on KCP, and Jaden on Murray. Now Ant can double Murray whenever he catches the ball, can help on MPJ whenever Karl is screened, and can help on Joker whenever he catches in the high post. Again, I have not really thought this through. It is a top of my head crazy thought, I just wanted to hear other people talk about it (sounding board.)
Here are my first-thoughts with that strategy (no hate, just have concerns):
With how quick Michael Porter Jr. is getting around screens, and the amount of off-ball action that is drawn up for him, I think that Karl-Anthony Towns would get cooked. Towns is at his best in single-coverage, having him chase MPJ around seems like a waste of his skillsets and energy (plus, I think MPJ would score a ton). To mitigate Michael Porter Jr., you need to be able to be physical and navigate off-ball screen action effectively.
I also think that would be a HUGE misuse of Rudy Gobert's strengths. Having him as a roamer allows for him to over-commit to jam up ball-screen action and roam; we have seen that he isn't particularly effective at limiting Nikola Jokić one-on-one. Also substantially increases the risk of foul trouble for Rudy Gobert.
Finally, Aaron Gordon's size mismatch against Anthony Edwards would be incredibly problematic on-the-glass and when Gordon sets curl screens. I think that would end up leading to a ton of Aaron Gordon dunks.
Minnesota is far better off keeping Rudy Gobert as a roamer to mitigate MPJ's ability to cut baseline and Jamal Murray's ability to easily snake into the paint. Doubling against the Denver Nuggets feels like a disaster waiting to happen, given how deadly their three-point shooting threats are. I prefer sticking to a more single-coverage strategy, where Karl-Anthony Towns is used as the sacrificial lamb against the other team's best player (he actually does an incredible job statistically, in this role).
Reposting this stat to support why keeping Karl-Anthony Towns in single-coverage is valuable. Towns is able to do a really respectable job against his match-up and is mobile enough to contain guards on switches. Against a passer of Nikola Jokić's caliber, it is immensely important to play him straight up and deny open threes.
Klomp wrote:winforlose wrote:Listening to Dane Moore and a weird idea struck me. I have not really thought this thru at all, so it might be really dumb. I mean this idea just popped into my head like less than a minute ago. I just wanted to talk it through with people. What if Ant was matched up with Gordon, and floated. Karl on MPJ, Rudy on Joker, Mike on KCP, and Jaden on Murray. Now Ant can double Murray whenever he catches the ball, can help on MPJ whenever Karl is screened, and can help on Joker whenever he catches in the high post. Again, I have not really thought this through. It is a top of my head crazy thought, I just wanted to hear other people talk about it (sounding board.)
Karl chasing MPJ around screens?
Guest84 wrote:I’m seeing a lot of ppl on socials say this is the real NBA finals. I’m honestly quite surprised.
winforlose wrote:Guest84 wrote:I’m seeing a lot of ppl on socials say this is the real NBA finals. I’m honestly quite surprised.
They are saying it because both teams stand head and shoulders above the Thunder (literally and figuratively,) and because Boston is overrated. They played in an East that was much weaker than the west and injured quite often as well. The winner of our next series is the odds on favorite to win it all.
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