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Tough Poll for 2025 Trade Deadline

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If we needed to make a money saving trade, who do you prefer to see traded away?

Towns
8
38%
Gobert
11
52%
Naz + NAW (no money to re-sign)
2
10%
Just Curious
0
No votes
 
Total votes: 21

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Re: Tough Poll for 2025 Trade Deadline 

Post#21 » by winforlose » Mon Sep 16, 2024 3:46 am

shrink wrote:
winforlose wrote:
shrink wrote:I agree, but what good returns could you see? I’d love to discuss the specifics of realistic deals.

When I’m trying to think about prospective partners, the economist in me looks at teams that need a player more than we do, because those are the ones who can afford to pay the most. The problem is that while we remain a championship contender, we really need these guys too. They are star players, and consolidate our win-now on the floor when we couldn’t play three “good, but maybe unready” players. It also matters that they want to be here - players of this quality have historically rejected us, even when we had KG, who was an actual MVP.

I have no idea when the trade is occurring and what the market looks like at that point. both Rudy and Karl could have inflated or deflated value based on who needs what and when things are happening.

I feel like we’re missing each other’s points, so I’ll try to re-state.

I’m not really talking about whether either player raises or lowers his value in the future. I’m trying to focus on teams where Rudy or KAT is a better fit than here, because those teams would pay the most in trade. Two years ago, we thought that would be easy, since they have both been All NBA at the same position. However, Finch has shown he can make it work. But the problem is that if we trade KAT, then we need to put a very offensive PF on the floor who is a great three point shooter to keep the floor spread offensively for Ant. Like KAT. And if we trade Gobert, we need a great defensive center that can provide rim-protection to maintain our defensive identity. We’d need a guy like Gobert.

I’m not saying it’s impossible to find a team that needs each one more than us, but by trading either one, we create a very big hole, and a hole we’d want to fill immediately to remain a championship contender. That makes the delta in profit small, so we need a team that will pay, or overpay, for either one. But the specifics is more a question for our Trade thread.


So if we are talking before the draft next season, depending on how things go this year, Gobert to LAL, LAC, GSW, Kings, Indy, and more makes sense. Bring in a third team to make it work. Karl to NYK, Houston, LAC, to name a few. If we move both you avoid that issue and can build a 5 out offense around Ant. In both cases you want young guys and a lot of picks.
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Re: Tough Poll for 2025 Trade Deadline 

Post#22 » by Folklore » Mon Sep 16, 2024 5:31 am

shrink wrote:
Folklore wrote:
shrink wrote:How do you believe that teams would give us a lot in trade for KAT, and then simultaneously believe he has all these major flaws?


He's a talented scorer but he's a C not a PF. Like I said, the problem is having him playing with Rudy. Kat at C and playing with someone like Bam or Naz would be ideal. Just because he's not working for us doesn't mean he can't elsewhere. Sometimes teams just want to sell tickets. Or they even may think that they have a better Center or PF to pair with Kat. Like sending him to the Nets.

Because the Nets want a “morale killer,” who’s “too dramatic,” and who “fouls out too much,” and someone who’s “body is breaking down?”



Alright, wth are you doing? You know what I'm saying. You even typed this "I’m trying to focus on teams where Rudy or KAT is a better fit than here" So why are you acting confused? I just gave reasons why I feel he isn't a fit HERE. People always think that they can help bring out someone's potential. Someone probably thought the same about you until they gave up and settled. :D
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Re: Tough Poll for 2025 Trade Deadline 

Post#23 » by shrink » Fri Oct 4, 2024 3:42 am

cmoss84 wrote:Not only do I prefer KAT, I think a deal actually gets done soon.

Nice call, cmoss!
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Re: Tough Poll for 2025 Trade Deadline 

Post#24 » by cmoss84 » Fri Oct 4, 2024 5:38 pm

shrink wrote:
cmoss84 wrote:Not only do I prefer KAT, I think a deal actually gets done soon.

Nice call, cmoss!

Thanks!

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