Draft Day: Round 2

[jpatrick]

Givony: Noah Penda was drawing looks from teams in the first round thanks to his strong defensive versatility, passing and overall feel for the game, but he couldn't gain enough traction in the predraft process because of his streaky shooting.

He'll likely be a popular target for playoff teams picking in the 30s, such as Minnesota, Boston or Philadelphia, that might prefer to stash a player in Europe to preserve roster flexibility. He will likely prefer to come to the U.S. immediately if he can find a team willing to roster him, however.

Him and Fleming are the same age (20). I suspect we will like Penda more. He’s a more versatile defender. Although not a great athlete, has quick feet, not sure Fleming can guard wings well. What separates him from Fleming, however, is he’s a high basketball IQ guy. He’s going to have to shoot it though, which he never has, to get regular minutes.

[KGdaBom]

Fleming or we riot

Or Kam Jones or trade the pick to somebody desperate to get Fleming.

[Sealab2024]

I'd love Fleming but I have a sneaky suspicion Connelly is going to prefer the options he gets in return for trading 31 for a 2027 pick.

[eminence]

If they can get a '27 first that would be excellent imo.

[KGdaBom]

Givony: Noah Penda was drawing looks from teams in the first round thanks to his strong defensive versatility, passing and overall feel for the game, but he couldn't gain enough traction in the predraft process because of his streaky shooting.

He'll likely be a popular target for playoff teams picking in the 30s, such as Minnesota, Boston or Philadelphia, that might prefer to stash a player in Europe to preserve roster flexibility. He will likely prefer to come to the U.S. immediately if he can find a team willing to roster him, however.

Him and Fleming are the same age (20). I suspect we will like Penda more. He’s a more versatile defender. Although not a great athlete, has quick feet, not sure Fleming can guard wings well. What separates him from Fleming, however, is he’s a high basketball IQ guy. He’s going to have to shoot it though, which he never has, to get regular minutes.

Penda is another Frenchman.

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somehow it feels like MIN have #1 pick today and controls this draft day, lol

[bluethunder0005]

I'd much rather have Fleming than Penda. I think the team is weaker at the backup 4/5 area than we are at the 3. Fleming is a much better athlete, is longer, and a better shooter. Only thing that'd make me skeptical of Fleming is some have said he processes things slowly. Maybe Penda processes things faster so that may make him "safer" in terms of reaching their ability but otherwise, Fleming clears him fairly easily.

Height: Penda 6'7.25", Fleming 6'8.25"
Wingspan: Penda 6'11.50", Fleming 7'5.25"
Lane Agility: Penda 11.70 seconds, Fleming 10.95
Shuttle Run: Penda 3.13 seconds, Fleming 2.72
Three Quarter Sprint: Penda 3.34 seconds, Fleming 3.24
Standing Vertical: Penda 25 inches, Fleming 27
Max Vertical: Penda 31 inches, Fleming 32.5

All that with Fleming being the better shooter. I hope Wolves either take Fleming or trade for a future 1st.

[Battletrigger]

Him and Fleming are the same age (20). I suspect we will like Penda more. He’s a more versatile defender. Although not a great athlete, has quick feet, not sure Fleming can guard wings well. What separates him from Fleming, however, is he’s a high basketball IQ guy. He’s going to have to shoot it though, which he never has, to get regular minutes.

Penda is another Frenchman.

Not bad 3 Arabs in the team

[Neeva]

It seems kind of delusional to think a team will trade a 2027 unprotected first round pick for 31 or even protected. It Would be really nice if it happens but I kind of doubt it. Connelly should Just take Fleming. I like his game and wolves have a need for PF and I like that he will be on a great contract, in a few years his rights will have much more value than 31/future seconds they will get if they trade it IMO. Only trade I consider(besides a future first) is Charlotte giving 33 and 34 and future second and hope Flemming drops to 33.

Penda’s lack of any shot/offense is worrisome but worth a shot at 34.

[moss_is_1]

It seems kind of delusional to think a team will trade a 2027 unprotected first round pick for 31 or even protected. It Would be really nice if it happens but I kind of doubt it. Connelly should Just take Fleming. I like his game and wolves have a need for PF and I like that he will be on a great contract, in a few years he will be have much more value than 31/future seconds IMO.

Penda’s lack of any shot/offense is worrisome.

Could just be someone trading "the worst of these picks" were we will still get a pick no matter what. Id be fine moving back and getting a couple future 2nds as well. Still think there's 5 guys i really like and then another 6 or 7 who are older but could still be bench guys.

[Mattya]

It’s Thiero or Fleming for me.

[Mattya]

I'd much rather have Fleming than Penda. I think the team is weaker at the backup 4/5 area than we are at the 3. Fleming is a much better athlete, is longer, and a better shooter. Only thing that'd make me skeptical of Fleming is some have said he processes things slowly. Maybe Penda processes things faster so that may make him "safer" in terms of reaching their ability but otherwise, Fleming clears him fairly easily.

Height: Penda 6'7.25", Fleming 6'8.25"
Wingspan: Penda 6'11.50", Fleming 7'5.25"
Lane Agility: Penda 11.70 seconds, Fleming 10.95
Shuttle Run: Penda 3.13 seconds, Fleming 2.72
Three Quarter Sprint: Penda 3.34 seconds, Fleming 3.24
Standing Vertical: Penda 25 inches, Fleming 27
Max Vertical: Penda 31 inches, Fleming 32.5

All that with Fleming being the better shooter. I hope Wolves either take Fleming or trade for a future 1st.

Fleming has the same standing reach as Derik Queen. That length and athleticism defensively would be pretty crazy.

[Norseman79]

Honestly, what happens is going to be a strong indication of how they feel about Leonard Miller. If they see him as someone who is ready to contribute as a power forward, I can see them looking more towards 3-point shooting and point guard. If they are not seeing the development they want to see, they're going power forward the whole way.

[Sealab2024]

somehow it feels like MIN have #1 pick today and controls this draft day, lol

FINALLY!!! a wolves team with a high draft pick!!!

[minimus]

somehow it feels like MIN have #1 pick today and controls this draft day, lol

FINALLY!!! a wolves team with a high draft pick!!!

Out of nowhere!!!

[younggunsmn]

Givony: Noah Penda was drawing looks from teams in the first round thanks to his strong defensive versatility, passing and overall feel for the game, but he couldn't gain enough traction in the predraft process because of his streaky shooting.

He'll likely be a popular target for playoff teams picking in the 30s, such as Minnesota, Boston or Philadelphia, that might prefer to stash a player in Europe to preserve roster flexibility. He will likely prefer to come to the U.S. immediately if he can find a team willing to roster him, however.

Him and Fleming are the same age (20). I suspect we will like Penda more. He’s a more versatile defender. Although not a great athlete, has quick feet, not sure Fleming can guard wings well. What separates him from Fleming, however, is he’s a high basketball IQ guy. He’s going to have to shoot it though, which he never has, to get regular minutes.

Not a great athlete and can't shoot.
How fast can we get to the podium!

[younggunsmn]

Honestly, what happens is going to be a strong indication of how they feel about Leonard Miller. If they see him as someone who is ready to contribute as a power forward, I can see them looking more towards 3-point shooting and point guard. If they are not seeing the development they want to see, they're going power forward the whole way.

Leonard Miller is below Luka Garza in my "prospect" pecking order, just above the soon to be waived Josh Minott.
Never going to be anything and NO REASON TO PASS on a really great PF prospect like Fleming who fell into our laps in the 2nd round.

And the good guard prospects are all gone thats why they all went in the top 10 and 3 of the 4 big overly expensive trade ups (Coward, Clayton, Clifford) were all guards.

But hey there are at least 4 intriguing Center prospects sitting at the top of the 2nd round.
Thank goodness Fleming is still there to bail TC out, but he will screw that up too for the next Wendell Moore Jr on his draft board.

With Naz and Randle Free Agents and Beringer so raw I think its important we get a guy like Fleming who can play now.
Solve the guard shortage with the MLE and/or a Randle or Naz trade/sign and trade.

[winforlose]

Honestly, what happens is going to be a strong indication of how they feel about Leonard Miller. If they see him as someone who is ready to contribute as a power forward, I can see them looking more towards 3-point shooting and point guard. If they are not seeing the development they want to see, they're going power forward the whole way.

Leonard Miller is below Luka Garza in my "prospect" pecking order, just above the soon to be waived Josh Minott.
Never going to be anything and NO REASON TO PASS on a really great PF prospect like Fleming who fell into our laps in the 2nd round.

I have been reading on Fleming. The concern about his lateral quickness makes me think of KBD. There was also concern that he played against weaker competition in his conference. I don’t watch college sports at all, and I have no idea how worried to be about these things? Any thoughts?

My concern with drafting another big is that Finch will not play him. If we assume that JB will rotational this year and next (between 7-14 minutes,) and that Naz and Randle are back, then that is a 4 big rotation. We still badly need another PG, and outside of trading 31 I am not sure how we him. Maybe signing Tyus for the TPMLE if no one offers him more. I would start Tyus, back him up with Dilly and move Mike to 3rd string to accommodate this. I can see us drafting Fleming for the future, but I wonder if we cannot use the pick for more immediate value either by trading it, or drafting Fleming with the intent of trading him later.

[Norseman79]

Honestly, what happens is going to be a strong indication of how they feel about Leonard Miller. If they see him as someone who is ready to contribute as a power forward, I can see them looking more towards 3-point shooting and point guard. If they are not seeing the development they want to see, they're going power forward the whole way.

Leonard Miller is below Luka Garza in my "prospect" pecking order, just above the soon to be waived Josh Minott.
Never going to be anything and NO REASON TO PASS on a really great PF prospect like Fleming who fell into our laps in the 2nd round.

And the good guard prospects are all gone thats why they all went in the top 10 and 3 of the 4 big overly expensive trade ups (Coward, Clayton, Clifford) were all guards.

But hey there are at least 4 intriguing Center prospects sitting at the top of the 2nd round.
Thank goodness Fleming is still there to bail TC out, but he will screw that up too for the next Wendell Moore Jr on his draft board.

I didn't say what I thought of Leonard Miller, I said it depends and it will show what the wolves think of Leonard Miller, who is a power forward not a center. Actually, Miller was drafted as a small forward if I'm not mistaken but was changed to more of a power forward/center. Make no mistake, he has a power forward tops. If they're happy with his development, they likely will trade the pick or go a different direction. If they're not happy with his development, then Fleming or another power forward make a ton of sense. Really hard to say because there's been no indication that Miller is anywhere near ready to play NBA minutes.