Would anyone here trade back Al Jeff for KG?

[revprodeji]

One could argue that with KG we still lack a true post threat or offensive rebounder, thus we are even worse now. One could also argue that with KG we do not get rid of his buddies like Thud.

We started over, we got young players that appear to listen to a coach and work together. Be happy for that. We moved on and so did he.

[revprodeji]

That being said, if he wants to sign here after boston or work in the front office I would love it.

[deeney0]

One could argue that with KG we still lack a true post threat or offensive rebounder, thus we are even worse now. One could also argue that with KG we do not get rid of his buddies like Thud.

The question was trade Al back for KG, not going back in time 8 months.

[Basti]

That being said, if he wants to sign here after boston or work in the front office I would love it.

would he develop a chemistry with big al after all that trash talking?

[revprodeji]

I think he would love/respect him even more.

[kandiking]

i would not do this trade.

[Basti]

I think he would love/respect him even more.

I just imagined a pf/c combination of KG and Big Al...

[Cy32]

KG did not fit with the Wolves as they were being built and that seemed obvious even last season. He went to a team that better fits his style of play and Big Al fits in better with the young team. It's nice to have a big on the team that goes to the basket.

[Mikchek]

From a busines standpoin I can see why they did the trade....but I agree KG with the cast that we have right now would be a contending team....Cookie could play down low....you have to realize when we went to the WCF we didn't have a low post scorer.....I think its that much more deadly when you can pull the defense out the low post....I would do the trade because I think it would win us at least one championship BUT with Big Al and if we can get beasley I think we can build a few championships

[mandurugo]

This thread just shows which posters miss KG to the point of ignoring the original need to rebuild.

I don't think that is necessarily true. My philosophy is that when you have a player of KG's ability you are one more all-star away from competiting for the championship. Hard to get - yes. But not totally unreasonable. In contrast, as good as Al's offense is he doesn't make players around him better on offense and he won't until he learns how to pass out of double and triple teams. On defense there is simply no comparison of the two players. On the merit as players there is no reason not to trade the two.

Of course there is no way to do this within the framework of NBA rules, which means we are not considering those details when we talk about this - so the the off the court rebuilding issues (financial reasons) don't matter. As far as on the court issues (your Hudson etc. concerns), those are much harder to judge from the outside so I don't think we can reasonably factor them into a decision - though obviously you might feel you have a better handle on whether KG is a constructive or destructive force for team building. I personally wouldn't hesitate to take my chances.

[Avalanche]

Have to realise if it was just a straight up trade then the wolves would be able to trade Theo's big expiring plus a pick/young guy to get another star to pair with KG... along with Foye/Gomes/Mccants/Smith etc.

Much more likely to win or at least contend with Garnett

[twolves4]

Have to realise if it was just a straight up trade then the wolves would be able to trade Theo's big expiring plus a pick/young guy to get another star to pair with KG... along with Foye/Gomes/Mccants/Smith etc.

Much more likely to win or at least contend with Garnett

thats not the way to look at it at all..we wouldnt bring back a star..because of the size of garnetts contract (the reason we couldnt win with garnett, he wouldnt take a big enough cut to help himself out), all we would do with ratliff is let him expire so that taylor wouldnt have to pay luxery tax..on top of that, we would need the money to re-sign mccants, gomes, telfair, foye in a year

we have a new star in town, so its time people just got over it..KG hates minnesota, never wants to come back..he made that very clear with his childish jersey popping to the wolves bench (beat the worst team in the nba by 1 point? hilarious), and reportedly (KFAN) treating everybody in the wolves organization like **** before, during, and after the game..this team gave him a great opportunity with sam/spree/wally, but he didnt get it done..aside from that he forced management to pay him to the point where he handcuffed them for all those years from making the big move to get him a star..the guy was a great player, and did alot of good things here, but its time people woke up and saw the negative impact he had with the wolves as well

[twolves4]

From a busines standpoin I can see why they did the trade....but I agree KG with the cast that we have right now would be a contending team....Cookie could play down low....you have to realize when we went to the WCF we didn't have a low post scorer.....I think its that much more deadly when you can pull the defense out the low post....I would do the trade because I think it would win us at least one championship BUT with Big Al and if we can get beasley I think we can build a few championships

1st point you made, wow... thats gotta be joke of the day

2nd point, wow... what do you think garnett did more of that season than any other? score in the post..that fadeaway on the low block, thats called a post move..the reason kg was so good that season is because he did alot more scoring on the low blocks with such a great trio of perimeter scorers in sam, wally, latrell

you truly believe that KG, mccants, foye, gomes is going to beat the spurs, lakers, suns, nuggets, mavs, or even the warriors? ..they would struggle just to sneak into the playoffs

[SpaceJam]

Lets see if Al will have the leadership of KG.

[Worm Guts]

Please delete this thread. No good can come of it.

[TheProdigy]

As much as I love KG, I wouldn't trade back Al for KG straight up. KG is on the downside of his career, Big Al is just entering his prime.

[revprodeji]

Please delete this thread. No good can come of it.

Exactly, if there was a reason for it I would. Perhaps I can edit the OP or something. Nobody saw it ok!!!.

[kingly222]

Heck no. Al Jefferson is everything KG wants to be. The thing about KG is the people fall in love with all the antics and his personality that they give him a big pass on his shortcomings. Im tired of the line, KG bring so much intensity he makes his teammates better. And what evidence do we have to prove that? Is it b/c he looks cool when he dunks?


When I look at Kg coward who isnt willing to put his team on his back to win. I say coward b/c any supersatr that gets on National TV crying trashing his teammates and sayign I need help to win is a coward. Can you guys Imagine any hall of famer pulling the same move. Wanting help in private is one thing, crying b/c you can get it done and trashing your teamates publicly is sign of someone who isnt ready to lead and cant to take the pressure. What superstars cries and blames his teammates for losses. Had Al been in the same position you would here him saying something along the lines of the team jumping on his back so he can carry them or or how everybody including him, has to get better.


Another thing I find funny is that people say Al will never be the player KG is yet he is already doing things KG hasnt done. 30 and 20 game, 40 and 19 in wins. The last straw is that his impact doent translate into winning. Wouldnt it be something if the twolves finish the season 22-14 and have the identical record as the KG led wolves?


Keep in mind this is nothing personal, Im making observations about KG game and being a leader. Im sure he is a great person.

[RoyHobbs]

Heck no. Al Jefferson is everything KG wants to be. The thing about KG is the people fall in love with all the antics and his personality that they give him a big pass on his shortcomings. Im tired of the line, KG bring so much intensity he makes his teammates better. And what evidence do we have to prove that? Is it b/c he looks cool when he dunks?


When I look at Kg coward who isnt willing to put his team on his back to win. I say coward b/c any supersatr that gets on National TV crying trashing his teammates and sayign I need help to win is a coward. Can you guys Imagine any hall of famer pulling the same move. Wanting help in private is one thing, crying b/c you can get it done and trashing your teamates publicly is sign of someone who isnt ready to lead and cant to take the pressure. What superstars cries and blames his teammates for losses. Had Al been in the same position you would here him saying something along the lines of the team jumping on his back so he can carry them or or how everybody including him, has to get better.


Another thing I find funny is that people say Al will never be the player KG is yet he is already doing things KG hasnt done. 30 and 20 game, 40 and 19 in wins. The last straw is that his impact doent translate into winning. Wouldnt it be something if the twolves finish the season 22-14 and have the identical record as the KG led wolves?


Keep in mind this is nothing personal, Im making observations about KG game and being a leader. Im sure he is a great person.

I know you're sticking up for your boy, but come on. You don't think KG has a positive effect on his team winning? It's ridiculous to cite to fairly empty stats with the season Minnesota is having. If nothing else, Big Al's season should prove that guys *do* need help to win.

I don't understand why it's not possible to appreciate Big Al and KG at the same time; why does one need to be trashed? KG is a better player at this point, but that's not a slight aimed at Al. If Jefferson can work on his defense and passing, he has the ability to move into an elite level in the NBA, where a championship-caliber team could be built around him. KG, however, is already on that all-around elite level, and for you to suggest otherwise seems a lot like sour grapes.

[Worm Guts]

I don't know how you can call KG a coward and then say it's not personal. Don't prop up Al by bashing KG, there's no need for it.