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I just hope we get some value out of him. Sign him or trade him. We spent so much time to develop him. That is the challenge between the right for someone to go any where they want and how much an organization should spend to develop a player.
I think that maybe why Okafor never become a productive NBA player. His game doesn't fit and he keep signing short term contracts so teams don't want to spend the time to develop his game.
I think that maybe why Okafor never become a productive NBA player. His game doesn't fit and he keep signing short term contracts so teams don't want to spend the time to develop his game.
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Klomp wrote:The hot talking point for us has been "it's Naz or the MLE, but probably not both"
My counter to that is, who is on the free agent market for the MLE who you would rather have over a 6'10" F/C averaging 22.5/9.6 per36 and will be only 24 years old next season and is both a locker room and fan favorite?
For me, Naz Reid is my first priority this offseason along with extensions for Edwards and McDaniels..
IMO, its picking 3 out of Naz, NAW, MLE, Prince.
And the order I put them in is my order of preference - with Naz and NAW being "no-brainers".
That said, I'm not using the MLE just to use it. If we can't do better than Prince with it, then keep him instead. But ideally we use the MLE to upgrade our PG2 position.
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BlacJacMac wrote:IMO, its picking 3 out of Naz, NAW, MLE, Prince.
And the order I put them in is my order of preference - with Naz and NAW being "no-brainers".
That said, I'm not using the MLE just to use it. If we can't do better than Prince with it, then keep him instead. But ideally we use the MLE to upgrade our PG2 position.
That's fair to add Prince into the discussion. Good point. And I think I'd agree on the pecking order, but the MLE has to be equal to Prince and whatever he fetches in trade (just cutting his unguaranteed deal would be a waste imo).
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Klomp wrote:BlacJacMac wrote:IMO, its picking 3 out of Naz, NAW, MLE, Prince.
And the order I put them in is my order of preference - with Naz and NAW being "no-brainers".
That said, I'm not using the MLE just to use it. If we can't do better than Prince with it, then keep him instead. But ideally we use the MLE to upgrade our PG2 position.
That's fair to add Prince into the discussion. Good point. And I think I'd agree on the pecking order, but the MLE has to be equal to Prince and whatever he fetches in trade (just cutting his unguaranteed deal would be a waste imo).
Agreed.
Although I'd also take a "lesser" player at a bigger position of need over Prince. Like a guy who is a legit 2nd PG, but maybe not as good as Prince when he's on (but hopefully not as bad as Prince when he's off).
I also really hope to see Minott take some of those minutes Prince would've been getting.
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BlacJacMac wrote:I also really hope to see Minott take some of those minutes Prince would've been getting.
True, Minott and how the team views him should also be a factor. At this point, I still don't see him in the regular rotation if they stand pat.
tsherkin wrote:The important thing to take away here is that Klomp is wrong.
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Naz Reid.
(just getting this in again in case we don't get to keep him)
(just getting this in again in case we don't get to keep him)
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Really hoping we can keep him, it'll make me excited for next season (as well as if we can get a player i'm excited about on draft day)
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I wanted to clarify how much teams could pay for Naz in their first year of his contract as an Unrestricted Free Agent
Teams that are over the luxury threshold: $7 mil (taxpayer, midlevel exception)
Teams that are over the salary cap, but under the lux: $11.2 (non-taxpayer midlevel exception)
Teams that are under the salary cap: any amount, up to their cap space
Minnesota: any amount (Bird rights)
(BRK is the only team with a TPE big enough for Naz)
There is obviously on-court value to the Wolves in bringing him back. But there could be value in bringing him back in a sign-and-trade for asset control. The key would be that a team in the first two groups is willing to pay Naz more than any cap space team, PLUS give us some minor compensation.
Teams that are over the luxury threshold: $7 mil (taxpayer, midlevel exception)
Teams that are over the salary cap, but under the lux: $11.2 (non-taxpayer midlevel exception)
Teams that are under the salary cap: any amount, up to their cap space
Minnesota: any amount (Bird rights)
(BRK is the only team with a TPE big enough for Naz)
There is obviously on-court value to the Wolves in bringing him back. But there could be value in bringing him back in a sign-and-trade for asset control. The key would be that a team in the first two groups is willing to pay Naz more than any cap space team, PLUS give us some minor compensation.
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tsherkin wrote:The important thing to take away here is that Klomp is wrong.
Esohny wrote:Why are you asking Klomp? "He's" actually a bot that posts random blurbs from a database.
Klomp wrote:I'm putting the tired in retired mod at the moment
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Calinks wrote:
Had a good chuckle from that!
tsherkin wrote:The important thing to take away here is that Klomp is wrong.
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Calinks wrote:
This is hilarious.
I love Naz so popped over here to check out the chatter. I do think he leaves for more playing time, but in any event I hope the dude gets paid. He’s so likable.
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If the offers are similar, would Naz want to come back? He has friends on the team. He can play a role here, as evidenced by the end of last year. But I’d think he’d want a bigger role than one behind KAT/Gobert. Maybe I’m wrong on that. I don’t think he’s a starting center, but he’s improved so much, he’s a very good third big.
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jpatrick wrote:If the offers are similar, would Naz want to come back? He has friends on the team. He can play a role here, as evidenced by the end of last year. But I’d think he’d want a bigger role than one behind KAT/Gobert. Maybe I’m wrong on that. I don’t think he’s a starting center, but he’s improved so much, he’s a very good third big.
I would say NO.
I think he wants to start, I think he is a starter and I think a team would want him to start. We need to give him that opportunity or promise we will work to get out of KAT and Rudy... if not it may be near impossible to keep him. It is the consequence of trading for Rudy. No Rudy we might have a shot assuming he is okay with PF... which I think is awful, but we could keep him in that circumstance. So we have to make a move or a S&T is the best we can hope for. I do not see him sticking around to be held back no matter how strong his friendships.
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If I'm Naz, I'm not only waiting to see what Minnesota offers, but how the draft/early FA goes. Does Minnesota trade Towns in a package that doesn't include a post player? Do they get a PF in FA?
I think if Minnesota moves Towns, it greatly increases the chances Naz comes back.
I think if Minnesota moves Towns, it greatly increases the chances Naz comes back.
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NebWolvesFan wrote:If I'm Naz, I'm not only waiting to see what Minnesota offers, but how the draft/early FA goes. Does Minnesota trade Towns in a package that doesn't include a post player? Do they get a PF in FA?
I think if Minnesota moves Towns, it greatly increases the chances Naz comes back.
Problem is if he gets an offer it might come early, he doesn't control when offers come, he can't just wait and see, offers and money dry up.
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SO_MONEY wrote:NebWolvesFan wrote:If I'm Naz, I'm not only waiting to see what Minnesota offers, but how the draft/early FA goes. Does Minnesota trade Towns in a package that doesn't include a post player? Do they get a PF in FA?
I think if Minnesota moves Towns, it greatly increases the chances Naz comes back.
Problem is if he gets an offer it might come early, he doesn't control when offers come, he can't just wait and see, offers and money dry up.
Well, Naz will have to wait for the part in blue no matter what as the NBA schedule is not up to him—so 50% of what the poster is saying is 100% correct.
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thinktank wrote:SO_MONEY wrote:NebWolvesFan wrote:If I'm Naz, I'm not only waiting to see what Minnesota offers, but how the draft/early FA goes. Does Minnesota trade Towns in a package that doesn't include a post player? Do they get a PF in FA?
I think if Minnesota moves Towns, it greatly increases the chances Naz comes back.
Problem is if he gets an offer it might come early, he doesn't control when offers come, he can't just wait and see, offers and money dry up.
Well, Naz will have to wait for the part in blue no matter what as the NBA schedule is not up to him—so 50% of what the poster is saying is 100% correct.
Thanks captain obvious. I didn't say it wasn't.
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SO_MONEY wrote:thinktank wrote:SO_MONEY wrote:
Problem is if he gets an offer it might come early, he doesn't control when offers come, he can't just wait and see, offers and money dry up.
Well, Naz will have to wait for the part in blue no matter what as the NBA schedule is not up to him—so 50% of what the poster is saying is 100% correct.
Thanks captain obvious. I didn't say it wasn't.
Well, if you didn’t ignore the half he said that was 100% relevant, and instead focused on only your negative interpretation of the other half of what he said, I wouldn’t have needed to say anything.
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There are several teams out there who would be foolish if they don't make Naz an offer ASAP. Dude is a get.
When luck shuts the door skill comes in through the window.
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