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Re: Around the league 22/23 

Post#201 » by TimberKat » Mon Oct 31, 2022 11:52 pm

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Calinks wrote:Can't believe the Lakers got Denver.


So did Utah and Portland. Tell me you see any of those losses coming?

Bron and Brow both playing and Westbrook with a very good game. They get all those on the same night and they can beat anybody.

Lakers are dealing with new pieces also. Having Westbrook be Westbrook (be the focus point) with the second unit should work out well for them. I think they will turn it a
around and make the playoffs. We may need to do the same with DLo or play 3 small the Gobert + Towns
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Re: Around the league 22/23 

Post#202 » by Calinks » Tue Nov 1, 2022 2:43 am

Jazz are blowing the Grizzlies out big time
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Post#203 » by TimberKat » Tue Nov 1, 2022 3:13 am

Calinks wrote:Jazz are blowing the Grizzlies out big time

Jazz still making sweet Music. That is beating Grizzlies twice in 3 days. For you non believers, you should go read the Book of Mormon or just go watch the play.
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Post#204 » by winforlose » Tue Nov 1, 2022 3:33 am

Calinks wrote:Jazz are blowing the Grizzlies out big time


While I do believe the Jazz will crash down to earth in mid to late November, I do feel better about our overtime loss to them. The Griz being 4-3 after losing two to Utah also makes me feel better about our losses to the Spurs. We are not where we need to be, but a lot of playoff teams are not yet there either.
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Post#205 » by winforlose » Tue Nov 1, 2022 4:56 am

We complain about almost losing to the thunder. Clippers just barely beat the Rockets 95-93 after scoring 5 straight unanswered points in the last 40 seconds. This league is upside down right now.
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Post#206 » by KGdaBom » Tue Nov 1, 2022 6:41 pm

Steve Nash fired or stepping down depending how you look at it.
It seems the Brooklyn Nets are more willing to turn a blind eye towards office romances than the Celtics or Wolves as they are hiring Ime Udoka.
The Nets plan to hire Ime Udoka as their next head coach, according to The Athletic's Shams Charania.
While Jacque Vaughn may lead the Nets against Chicago on Tuesday, Udoka will be at the helm for the remainder of the season. Boston will allow Udoka to leave with no compensation in return being reported. He was suspended indefinitely by the Celtics after inappropriate workplace behavior with a female employee and was not expected to coach them after his suspension ended. Udoka did have success leading Boston last season, guiding them to the NBA Finals in his only season as their head coach. Udoka was previously an assistant for Brooklyn and reportedly challenged Kevin Durant and Kyrie Irving consistently. The Nets will be filled with drama between Irving, Udoka and Ben Simmons, but they'll hope that the stars align for a turnaround after a 2-5 start to the season.

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Post#207 » by winforlose » Fri Nov 4, 2022 1:40 am

Orlando just beat GSW 130-129. Let the national media suck on that the next time they talk about how small ball is so great and the Wolves suck so much for losing to winning teams.

Edit to add: they are now 3-6 with their wins coming against the Lakers, Kings, and Heat. Those teams have combined for 8 wins. By contrast the Wolves have beat OKC x2, the Spurs, and the Lakers. Those teams combined for 11 wins but it counts as 15 because we beat OKC twice.
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Post#208 » by KGdaBom » Fri Nov 4, 2022 5:05 am

I'm going to dare venture into some politics here and live with any backlash I get. I've never been a fan of Kyrie Irving. He kind of annoyed me for whatever stupid reason. I disagreed with his choice to not get vaccinated for COVID, but I did respect him standing up for his beliefs. Now he is embroiled in a controversy for enjoying/tweeting about a book/movie Hebrews to Negroes. This movie without question contains anti-Semitic material. On the other hand it points out how the Jews were heavily involved in the slave trade. I've seen this confirmed by Jewish people as being true. Maybe that's what Kyrie wanted brought to light.
Here is what I had to say regarding this controversy.
They want Kyrie to "BEND THE KNEE" and say exactly what they script for him to say. He said what he chose to say and he clearly isn't a Jew Hater. That's what you mean when you say anti-Semite. He is a man with pride and that pride will not allow him to bend the knee to anybody. He will most likely never play NBA basketball again for standing up for his beliefs. I respect the hell out of him for doing that. I hope he becomes a symbol for those standing for free speech and against thought police.
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Post#209 » by KGdaBom » Fri Nov 4, 2022 5:06 am

I found this post by a guy who goes by Alienpick. It kicks ass on my comment.

He gave an explanation on how and why he posted the link in his first interview. He said he was looking up his African heritage and stumbled across the documentary on his heritage. He implied that he didn't really watch it. He also clearly stated he doesn't discriminate against people based on their religion in that interview as well. He later took the post down. What more does he need to say / do?

The fact is he didn't do exactly what the puppet masters (MSM / Silver / Politically Correct Police) wanted him to do and say, so they're going to get him.

Sick world. Censorship and people pleasing to the highest degree. Bye bye freedom. Hello authoritarian hell hole.
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Re: Around the league 22/23 

Post#210 » by KGdaBom » Fri Nov 4, 2022 5:08 am

Here's another post that I found insightful. Poster named Hyberx

If retweeting and linking to the movie is supporting EVERYTHING in it, then why is Amazon allowed to keep profiting from it? They have 4.5 to 5-star reviews on the movie and the books, that's another promotion and endorsement (by Amazon's customers, via the amazon platform) to the title. If what Kyrie did is "hurtful and offensive", then what Amazon is doing is 100x that.

Should Amazon not be allowed to make it available? No, I am also on the boat of free speech. If it is hate speech, let people see it, make up their own opinion, and condemn it. That is how you get educated opinions rather than uneducated ones. Don't tell people what to think with out-of-context tidbits like the media often do. Sadly, some people act like tools to the media and dance to the tune whenever they are ordered.
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Post#211 » by winforlose » Fri Nov 4, 2022 5:18 am

KGdaBom wrote:Here's another post that I found insightful. Poster named Hyberx

If retweeting and linking to the movie is supporting EVERYTHING in it, then why is Amazon allowed to keep profiting from it? They have 4.5 to 5-star reviews on the movie and the books, that's another promotion and endorsement (by Amazon's customers, via the amazon platform) to the title. If what Kyrie did is "hurtful and offensive", then what Amazon is doing is 100x that.

Should Amazon not be allowed to make it available? No, I am also on the boat of free speech. If it is hate speech, let people see it, make up their own opinion, and condemn it. That is how you get educated opinions rather than uneducated ones. Don't tell people what to think with out-of-context tidbits like the media often do. Sadly, some people act like tools to the media and dance to the tune whenever they are ordered.


Ant said something insulting about a gay man and his choice of clothing. This caused a massive ****storm. The consensus was he can think what he wants, and say what he wants, but do it behind closed doors, and keep it off of social media. Kyrie is a multimillionaire for playing a game that has 3 big requirements. The first is to play basketball well (he really does.) The second is to participate in the culture of the team (locker room and community outreach programs,) he has failed here. The third is to be available for the media and to present an imagine that makes sponsors want to give money. The NBA is a business. They shameless allow superstars to cheat on the court to keep them in the game and putting up big numbers (superstar treatment.) Kyrie is bad for business.

Also remember that hate crimes and violence against minorities is on the rise. Anti Asian, Anti Muslim, Anti Jewish, you name it. I get the free speech argument, but I also get the argument that broadcasting hate to a fan base is not the same thing as to a room full of people. Nets fans who happen to be a minority have the right to not have to watch someone they feel hated/disrespected/endangered by. Moreover, he does with his words spread hate, disrespect, and create tangible danger for the Jewish community. It is the principle that you can say what you want within reason but not bomb on an airplane or fire in a crowded theater. Kyrie put the Nets in an impossible position, and they still stuck by him. Then, just when there was light on the horizon, Kyrie picked up shovel and dug deeper. Sunlight cannot reach underground, and the NBA cannot maximize profits outside of the sunlight.
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Re: Around the league 22/23 

Post#212 » by Baseline81 » Fri Nov 4, 2022 12:04 pm

KGdaBom wrote:I'm going to dare venture into some politics here and live with any backlash I get. I've never been a fan of Kyrie Irving. He kind of annoyed me for whatever stupid reason. I disagreed with his choice to not get vaccinated for COVID, but I did respect him standing up for his beliefs. Now he is embroiled in a controversy for enjoying/tweeting about a book/movie Hebrews to Negroes. This movie without question contains anti-Semitic material. On the other hand it points out how the Jews were heavily involved in the slave trade. I've seen this confirmed by Jewish people as being true. Maybe that's what Kyrie wanted brought to light.
Here is what I had to say regarding this controversy.
They want Kyrie to "BEND THE KNEE" and say exactly what they script for him to say. He said what he chose to say and he clearly isn't a Jew Hater. That's what you mean when you say anti-Semite. He is a man with pride and that pride will not allow him to bend the knee to anybody. He will most likely never play NBA basketball again for standing up for his beliefs. I respect the hell out of him for doing that. I hope he becomes a symbol for those standing for free speech and against thought police.

Appears as if Irving "bent the knee."
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Re: Around the league 22/23 

Post#213 » by KGdaBom » Fri Nov 4, 2022 2:15 pm

Baseline81 wrote:
KGdaBom wrote:I'm going to dare venture into some politics here and live with any backlash I get. I've never been a fan of Kyrie Irving. He kind of annoyed me for whatever stupid reason. I disagreed with his choice to not get vaccinated for COVID, but I did respect him standing up for his beliefs. Now he is embroiled in a controversy for enjoying/tweeting about a book/movie Hebrews to Negroes. This movie without question contains anti-Semitic material. On the other hand it points out how the Jews were heavily involved in the slave trade. I've seen this confirmed by Jewish people as being true. Maybe that's what Kyrie wanted brought to light.
Here is what I had to say regarding this controversy.
They want Kyrie to "BEND THE KNEE" and say exactly what they script for him to say. He said what he chose to say and he clearly isn't a Jew Hater. That's what you mean when you say anti-Semite. He is a man with pride and that pride will not allow him to bend the knee to anybody. He will most likely never play NBA basketball again for standing up for his beliefs. I respect the hell out of him for doing that. I hope he becomes a symbol for those standing for free speech and against thought police.

Appears as if Irving "bent the knee."
Read on Twitter

It's a good post actually. I don't see it as bending the knee. Note that he still mentioned their are parts of the documentary that he does agree with. Also he reiterated the line I know who I Am. Capitalized? Creepy Like when God say's I Am in the Bible.
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Post#214 » by Devilzsidewalk » Fri Nov 4, 2022 4:02 pm

OKC Thunder look spooky. Thank god they didn't take Duren, because that's a starting 5 from hell once chet returns. But that Giddey/Dort/SGA trio has a ton of potential.
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Post#215 » by winforlose » Fri Nov 4, 2022 4:11 pm

Devilzsidewalk wrote:OKC Thunder look spooky. Thank god they didn't take Duren, because that's a starting 5 from hell once chet returns. But that Giddey/Dort/SGA trio has a ton of potential.


I really like how they handled their rebuild. I have been saying they will be a threat. Let’s just pray they don’t add VW to that core. I am torn because on the one hand I want VW in the opposite conference. On the other hand, I think we will be changing conferences in a few years when the expansion happens. Kinda hard to know who to root for in the VW sweepstakes.
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Post#216 » by Mattya » Fri Nov 4, 2022 8:38 pm

KGdaBom wrote:I found this post by a guy who goes by Alienpick. It kicks ass on my comment.

He gave an explanation on how and why he posted the link in his first interview. He said he was looking up his African heritage and stumbled across the documentary on his heritage. He implied that he didn't really watch it. He also clearly stated he doesn't discriminate against people based on their religion in that interview as well. He later took the post down. What more does he need to say / do?

The fact is he didn't do exactly what the puppet masters (MSM / Silver / Politically Correct Police) wanted him to do and say, so they're going to get him.

Sick world. Censorship and people pleasing to the highest degree. Bye bye freedom. Hello authoritarian hell hole.


Funny how these authoritarian hellhole thought police argument was never brought up when conservatives allowed businesses to discriminate against minorities and based on customers sexual preferences. Hell, libertarians still believe they should be able to fire and not hire someone strictly because of these reasons.
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Re: Around the league 22/23 

Post#217 » by Krapinsky » Fri Nov 4, 2022 10:01 pm

KGdaBom wrote:Here's another post that I found insightful. Poster named Hyberx

If retweeting and linking to the movie is supporting EVERYTHING in it, then why is Amazon allowed to keep profiting from it? They have 4.5 to 5-star reviews on the movie and the books, that's another promotion and endorsement (by Amazon's customers, via the amazon platform) to the title. If what Kyrie did is "hurtful and offensive", then what Amazon is doing is 100x that.

Should Amazon not be allowed to make it available? No, I am also on the boat of free speech. If it is hate speech, let people see it, make up their own opinion, and condemn it. That is how you get educated opinions rather than uneducated ones. Don't tell people what to think with out-of-context tidbits like the media often do. Sadly, some people act like tools to the media and dance to the tune whenever they are ordered.


If enough people made an issue with Amazon selling it then Amazon would probably take it down.

I tend to think Irving is just a contarian by nature and being a contrarian requires him to lean into conspiracies. You say the world is round? No it isn't, it's flat. You say vaccines save lives? No they don't, the government just wants to control you. You say Kanye is an anti-semite? No he isn't, watch this conspiracy video. You think I should apologize? No I shouldn't.

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Re: Around the league 22/23 

Post#218 » by winforlose » Fri Nov 4, 2022 10:07 pm

Krapinsky wrote:
KGdaBom wrote:Here's another post that I found insightful. Poster named Hyberx

If retweeting and linking to the movie is supporting EVERYTHING in it, then why is Amazon allowed to keep profiting from it? They have 4.5 to 5-star reviews on the movie and the books, that's another promotion and endorsement (by Amazon's customers, via the amazon platform) to the title. If what Kyrie did is "hurtful and offensive", then what Amazon is doing is 100x that.

Should Amazon not be allowed to make it available? No, I am also on the boat of free speech. If it is hate speech, let people see it, make up their own opinion, and condemn it. That is how you get educated opinions rather than uneducated ones. Don't tell people what to think with out-of-context tidbits like the media often do. Sadly, some people act like tools to the media and dance to the tune whenever they are ordered.


If enough people made an issue with Amazon selling it then Amazon would probably take it down.

I tend to think Irving is just a contarian by nature and being a contrarian requires him to lean into conspiracies. You say the world is round? No it isn't, it's flat. You say vaccines save lives? No they don't, the government just wants to control you. You say Kanye is an anti-semite? No he isn't, watch this conspiracy video. You think I should apologize? No I shouldn't.



Very possible. Or he is just plain crazy. That works too.
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Post#219 » by TimberKat » Fri Nov 4, 2022 10:26 pm

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KGdaBom wrote:

It's a good post actually. I don't see it as bending the knee. Note that he still mentioned their are parts of the documentary that he does agree with. Also he reiterated the line I know who I Am. Capitalized? Creepy Like when God say's I Am in the Bible.
It is amazing how valuable a good agent can be. Although, should had published it a few days earlier to save 5 million bucks. Well worth the 10% commission. I hope no reporter ask Kyrie to recite his message in post-game interviews. If it's publicity for the book/movie that he is after, looks like it worked. I have no idea the book/movie existed before and I don't follow Kyrie. But now I want to read it myself and see how bad it is. :D I have not read the book and I do not agree with anything that is in the book/movie :D
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Post#220 » by KGdaBom » Fri Nov 4, 2022 11:14 pm

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Baseline81 wrote:It's a good post actually. I don't see it as bending the knee. Note that he still mentioned their are parts of the documentary that he does agree with. Also he reiterated the line I know who I Am. Capitalized? Creepy Like when God say's I Am in the Bible.
It is amazing how valuable a good agent can be. Although, should had published it a few days earlier to save 5 million bucks. Well worth the 10% commission. I hope no reporter ask Kyrie to recite his message in post-game interviews. If it's publicity for the book/movie that he is after, looks like it worked. I have no idea the book/movie existed before and I don't follow Kyrie. But now I want to read it myself and see how bad it is. :D I have not read the book and I do not agree with anything that is in the book/movie :D

I don't think you can know you don't agree with ANYTHING in the book movie until you actually read or see it. You might find out something you do agree with. I'm kind of tempted to watch the movie to see what all the fuss is about. It will probably brainwash me and I will turn into a raging Jew Hater.

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