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Re: The "Fire Chris Finch" Thread 

Post#201 » by m2002brian » Thu Apr 20, 2023 2:24 am

This is what makes Pop an all time great. He constantly changes his system over the years to match his players.
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Re: The "Fire Chris Finch" Thread 

Post#202 » by shangrila » Thu Apr 20, 2023 4:18 am

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shangrila wrote:So the one example from many you've pulled doesn't show what you think/want it to?

Interesting choice then.

You either believe Finch has his built-in excuses (injuries, back-to-back, Gobert trade rebuild, etc.) for why the Wolves have played the way they have or you see the problems in his coaching (lack of team identity, timeouts, 4th quarter offense, etc.).

If it's the latter, then you have to ask yourself if it's enough to move on from him. Clearly, myself and others feel his time should be up. Again, I don't see Connelly trading either Towns or Gobert and, yet, changes need to be made.

Cool story but not what I was commenting on.

If there’s numerous examples of fans wanting Finch gone why didn’t you show them? Why would you pull out a fairy benign quote that also calls out our 2 stars?

It’s just weird
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Re: The "Fire Chris Finch" Thread 

Post#203 » by Baseline81 » Fri Apr 21, 2023 5:15 pm

Nurse was fired today.

Would you rather have Finch or Nurse?
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Re: The "Fire Chris Finch" Thread 

Post#204 » by urinesane » Fri Apr 21, 2023 6:20 pm

Baseline81 wrote:Nurse was fired today.

Would you rather have Finch or Nurse?


I'd rather have Finch with Nurse as a head assistant next season. :D
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Re: The "Fire Chris Finch" Thread 

Post#205 » by Klomp » Fri Apr 21, 2023 6:34 pm

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Baseline81 wrote:Nurse was fired today.

Would you rather have Finch or Nurse?


I'd rather have Finch with Nurse as a head assistant next season. :D

That would be awesome! But he'll probably be able to find a head job. Coaches with a ring don't become available often.
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Re: The "Fire Chris Finch" Thread 

Post#206 » by urinesane » Fri Apr 21, 2023 6:57 pm

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Baseline81 wrote:Nurse was fired today.

Would you rather have Finch or Nurse?


I'd rather have Finch with Nurse as a head assistant next season. :D

That would be awesome! But he'll probably be able to find a head job. Coaches with a ring don't become available often.


True, but maybe he wants to take a year in a lesser role?

He came in and overachieved his first season and then every season after that came with super high expectations (and worse rosters).

I'm sure there will be plenty of suitors if he wants to go right back to HC, but it would also be cool if he wanted to be on the Wolves bench for a year before getting back to the head coaching role :)

I think he probably gets more money if he takes a year off rather than going right back into it, especially if the Raptors take a big dive in the standings (going from a .500 team to a basement team again) and the Wolves next year make a leap.
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Re: The "Fire Chris Finch" Thread 

Post#207 » by BlacJacMac » Fri Apr 21, 2023 7:36 pm

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Baseline81 wrote:Nurse was fired today.

Would you rather have Finch or Nurse?


I'd rather have Finch with Nurse as a head assistant next season. :D


I'd swap their roles.

Nurse seems like the better in-game coach, while Finch is the guy that players love.
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Re: The "Fire Chris Finch" Thread 

Post#208 » by urinesane » Fri Apr 21, 2023 7:51 pm

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Baseline81 wrote:Nurse was fired today.

Would you rather have Finch or Nurse?


I'd rather have Finch with Nurse as a head assistant next season. :D


I'd swap their roles.

Nurse seems like the better in-game coach, while Finch is the guy that players love.


Not possible. You can't demote a HC to an assistant on the same team (nor should Finch take that demotion).

It's way more common for a HC to go be a coordinator for a year or two with another team.

Plus, you're looking for Nurse to bring what made him and Finch a great team in the past, the fact that he isn't the HC in title wouldn't mean that he wouldn't have a big impact.
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Re: The "Fire Chris Finch" Thread 

Post#209 » by BlacJacMac » Fri Apr 21, 2023 9:37 pm

urinesane wrote:
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urinesane wrote:
I'd rather have Finch with Nurse as a head assistant next season. :D


I'd swap their roles.

Nurse seems like the better in-game coach, while Finch is the guy that players love.


Not possible. You can't demote a HC to an assistant on the same team (nor should Finch take that demotion).

It's way more common for a HC to go be a coordinator for a year or two with another team.

Plus, you're looking for Nurse to bring what made him and Finch a great team in the past, the fact that he isn't the HC in title wouldn't mean that he wouldn't have a big impact.


Well, I don't think either has a chance of happening, so I choose the one that I think would make us better.
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Re: The "Fire Chris Finch" Thread 

Post#210 » by younggunsmn » Fri Apr 21, 2023 10:26 pm

Can't believe they canned Nurse. He has always done a tremendous job with the talent he is given.
he just didn't have a whole lot of talent left in Toronto, but he did an amazing job developing the players they do have there.
Barnes, Anunoby, Van Vleet, Siakam. Norman Powell, Boucher.
It's not like they were gifted with two #1 overall picks like we were.

He would probably be a big upgrade over Finch. He's too good to go back to being an assistant.
Finch needs to be better at the coaching part and spend more time barking at his own players and less at the refs.
I think that's the thing that separates him from guys like Nurse and Tyler Jenkins.
They run a much tighter ship and have a low tolerance for guys not following directions or the game plan.

I'll give Finch another year, but I think we need to move Towns this summer in order for Finch to succeed.
He's the one guy who's really not buying in.
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Re: The "Fire Chris Finch" Thread 

Post#211 » by urinesane » Fri Apr 21, 2023 11:11 pm

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urinesane wrote:
BlacJacMac wrote:
I'd swap their roles.

Nurse seems like the better in-game coach, while Finch is the guy that players love.


Not possible. You can't demote a HC to an assistant on the same team (nor should Finch take that demotion).

It's way more common for a HC to go be a coordinator for a year or two with another team.

Plus, you're looking for Nurse to bring what made him and Finch a great team in the past, the fact that he isn't the HC in title wouldn't mean that he wouldn't have a big impact.


Well, I don't think either has a chance of happening, so I choose the one that I think would make us better.


One of them is actually possible though (even though unlikely) the other is not possible (there's no way Finch can be an assistant on this team).
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Re: The "Fire Chris Finch" Thread 

Post#212 » by urinesane » Fri Apr 21, 2023 11:12 pm

younggunsmn wrote:Can't believe they canned Nurse. He has always done a tremendous job with the talent he is given.
he just didn't have a whole lot of talent left in Toronto, but he did an amazing job developing the players they do have there.
Barnes, Anunoby, Van Vleet, Siakam. Norman Powell, Boucher.
It's not like they were gifted with two #1 overall picks like we were.

He would probably be a big upgrade over Finch. He's too good to go back to being an assistant.
Finch needs to be better at the coaching part and spend more time barking at his own players and less at the refs.
I think that's the thing that separates him from guys like Nurse and Tyler Jenkins.
They run a much tighter ship and have a low tolerance for guys not following directions or the game plan.

I'll give Finch another year, but I think we need to move Towns this summer in order for Finch to succeed.
He's the one guy who's really not buying in.


If they move Towns this offseason, they will not be good enough for Finch to keep his job next year imo.

Unless you are getting legit guys that will help this team win now. No more punting for future potential (the Wolves wins per lottery pick must be the lowest in history).
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Re: The "Fire Chris Finch" Thread 

Post#213 » by TimberKat » Sat Apr 22, 2023 12:21 am

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younggunsmn wrote:Can't believe they canned Nurse.


If they move Towns this offseason, they will not be good enough for Finch to keep his job next year imo.

Unless you are getting legit guys that will help this team win now. No more punting for future potential (the Wolves wins per lottery pick must be the lowest in history).

That is what happens when you get a couple caged lions. They turn into cutie Kats. (Was going with pussykat, but too harsh for today and the context). I hope KAT turn his game around because I don't want to change my call sign. :D
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Re: The "Fire Chris Finch" Thread 

Post#214 » by Dewey » Sat Apr 22, 2023 1:37 am

urinesane wrote:
younggunsmn wrote:Can't believe they canned Nurse. He has always done a tremendous job with the talent he is given.
he just didn't have a whole lot of talent left in Toronto, but he did an amazing job developing the players they do have there.
Barnes, Anunoby, Van Vleet, Siakam. Norman Powell, Boucher.
It's not like they were gifted with two #1 overall picks like we were.

He would probably be a big upgrade over Finch. He's too good to go back to being an assistant.
Finch needs to be better at the coaching part and spend more time barking at his own players and less at the refs.
I think that's the thing that separates him from guys like Nurse and Tyler Jenkins.
They run a much tighter ship and have a low tolerance for guys not following directions or the game plan.

I'll give Finch another year, but I think we need to move Towns this summer in order for Finch to succeed.
He's the one guy who's really not buying in.


If they move Towns this offseason, they will not be good enough for Finch to keep his job next year imo.

Unless you are getting legit guys that will help this team win now. No more punting for future potential (the Wolves wins per lottery pick must be the lowest in history).

IDK… almost seemed were getting better when he was out, then regressed when he returned. I’m not blaming him, but I don’t buy the hype
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Re: The "Fire Chris Finch" Thread 

Post#215 » by minimus » Sat Apr 22, 2023 3:50 am

Why Nurse would like to join "twin towers" experiment after "all wings experiment"?
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Re: The "Fire Chris Finch" Thread 

Post#216 » by Neeva » Mon Apr 24, 2023 4:25 pm

m2002brian wrote:This is what makes Pop an all time great. He constantly changes his system over the years to match his players.



Why don’t we steal Pop?
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Re: The "Fire Chris Finch" Thread 

Post#217 » by Note30 » Mon Apr 24, 2023 4:51 pm

Neeva wrote:
m2002brian wrote:This is what makes Pop an all time great. He constantly changes his system over the years to match his players.



Why don’t we steal Pop?


Because he's like 75 and has talked about retiring every 5 minutes I doubt he's gonna leave the only home he's known for the past 30 years to join a joke of a FO and a middling team.
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Re: The "Fire Chris Finch" Thread 

Post#218 » by BlacJacMac » Mon Apr 24, 2023 5:18 pm

Neeva wrote:
m2002brian wrote:This is what makes Pop an all time great. He constantly changes his system over the years to match his players.



Why don’t we steal Pop?


I guess if we fire Connelly and Finch, give him complete control over the franchise and like 20M/year he may think about it for a minute.
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Re: The "Fire Chris Finch" Thread 

Post#219 » by urinesane » Mon Apr 24, 2023 9:27 pm

Dewey wrote:
urinesane wrote:
younggunsmn wrote:Can't believe they canned Nurse. He has always done a tremendous job with the talent he is given.
he just didn't have a whole lot of talent left in Toronto, but he did an amazing job developing the players they do have there.
Barnes, Anunoby, Van Vleet, Siakam. Norman Powell, Boucher.
It's not like they were gifted with two #1 overall picks like we were.

He would probably be a big upgrade over Finch. He's too good to go back to being an assistant.
Finch needs to be better at the coaching part and spend more time barking at his own players and less at the refs.
I think that's the thing that separates him from guys like Nurse and Tyler Jenkins.
They run a much tighter ship and have a low tolerance for guys not following directions or the game plan.

I'll give Finch another year, but I think we need to move Towns this summer in order for Finch to succeed.
He's the one guy who's really not buying in.


If they move Towns this offseason, they will not be good enough for Finch to keep his job next year imo.

Unless you are getting legit guys that will help this team win now. No more punting for future potential (the Wolves wins per lottery pick must be the lowest in history).

IDK… almost seemed were getting better when he was out, then regressed when he returned. I’m not blaming him, but I don’t buy the hype


He came back and had two back to back games where he made the winning basket (FTs vs ATL and 3pt vs GSW).

2 games later they lose Naz (who was a BIG part of them turning things around and winning big games at the end of the year). 5 games later they lose McDaniels.

You can't act like KAT was the only change in the roster once he got back, they were flailing after that Suns loss (which was the start of a 3 game losing streak and the game they lost Naz), then they won 3/4 to end the regular season. Losing Naz and McDaniels is probably a much bigger factor than gaining KAT (due to him not really being in full game shape or having time to gel with the roster).

They were 26 - 26 without KAT, they were 17 - 14 this season with KAT. Neither of those records shows much in regards to KAT being a savior or a scapegoat.

They need a full season with their main guys to see what they have (or don't have).
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Re: The "Fire Chris Finch" Thread 

Post#220 » by Klomp » Mon Apr 24, 2023 9:29 pm

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