Playoff game 2 Wolves at Denver 4-19-2023

[TwolvesFanRome]

I really appreciate the reaction in the 3rd Q...I thought we would have separated them after the overtaking... the match was hanging on our side...

Then someone wanted to remind us how stupid we were to call Kris Dunn with the #5...............

[m2002brian]

It’s as easy as putting Aaron Gordon on KAT (a max player) and he’s neutralized???

Hmmm

[younggunsmn]

It’s as easy as putting Aaron Gordon on KAT (a max player) and he’s neutralized???

Hmmm

No its even easier. You put old man Jeff Green on him.

[m2002brian]

Lol

[Guest84]

Listening to the TNT crew, they mentioned that Kat needs to post up and we need to leave the drop coverage alone going into the next game.

Do we agree?

They get really down on Towns due to him not taking advantage of his size. Which I agree with but he just doesn’t know how to get good position.

But like another poster mentioned, him moving to the 4 does hinder his quickness advantage. Which is why it’s even more important that he get in the post at times.

However, this is now where the transition to Edwards takes place if he continues like this. He finally took control and said get out the way. He can’t sit in this series though.

[Calinks]

It’s as easy as putting Aaron Gordon on KAT (a max player) and he’s neutralized???

Hmmm

Its not just that, they are doing other things but yea its a big part of it. Teams are easily able to take KAT out now and we have not been able to make them pay. We haven't been able to come up with a solution. IT was harder when KAT was playing the 5 because he could destroy a lot slow 5's with his drive and floor running. Now at the 4 there aren't many players he can beat and they can still defend him. The post stuff isn't working at all either, don't know why, but his post game seems to have regressed a lot in the last couple of years, he used to be a pretty good post player. The driving game is totally taken away because teams are baiting fouls and he can't drive without drawing charges regularly.

The team hasn't found a way to free him up, good scoring from other plays and taking some attention off him would probably help but we haven't been able to do that either. He isn't fitting very well with what this team is trying to do. Particularly in the post season.

[Muskies97]

Towns biggest strengths were always shining with him playing center in a 5 out offense, where he could take 5s off the dribble and take 4s in the post, forcing teams to double him. The spacing is much more clunky with Gobert on the floor and Towns has been routinely getting COOKED trying to defend at the 4. Thank you Tim Connelly.

[Calinks]

Listening to the TNT crew, they mentioned that Kat needs to post up and we need to leave the drop coverage alone going into the next game.

Do we agree?

They get really down on Towns due to him not taking advantage of his size. Which I agree with but he just doesn’t know how to get good position.

But like another poster mentioned, him moving to the 4 does hinder his quickness advantage. Which is why it’s even more important that he get in the post at times.

However, this is now where the transition to Edwards takes place if he continues like this. He finally took control and said get out the way. He can’t sit in this series though.

He used to be a good post up player but lately, he has not been able to use his size at all. I don't know what changed. If he could post up effectively and make quick decisions it would be a big help but he can't anymore.

[younggunsmn]

Murray is really the GOAT.

I so loved Murray in that draft. He was right there for the taking. Thibs

Fitting way to end. Turn over.

I liked Murray too, I'm pretty sure he was angling to come here as well but nope, who did we take? Dunn? We Dunn goofed super hard. Murray was playing at a high level even before college, I saw him play on the Canadian national team and that is when I knew I wanted to draft him.

Just speculation but I think Thibs took Dunn because Chicago liked him and Thibs wanted Butler.
But yeah it was a dumb pick. Murray was no sure thing but the shooting problems for Dunn were pretty apparent.

[D1SGRUNTL3D]

Dare I say, Wolves can still take this to a 6-7 game series. ANT is healthy, Murray cannot stay that hot.

We may take 1 at home but I don't think we have any answers for Jokic. Jaden would have been such a key in this series the way Murray is playing.

Game 3 is do or for die. If kat lays an egg with the season on the line and an opportunity to go down 3-0, then we’ll never go anywhere with him and unfortunately with his contract, we’re stuck with him.

Denver is tough to beat with Murray cooking. Gobert can’t hound Joker or he’ll be burned. He needs almost rover the pass while playing some defense. Bad things happen if you press Joker.

[Calinks]

Dare I say, Wolves can still take this to a 6-7 game series. ANT is healthy, Murray cannot stay that hot.

We may take 1 at home but I don't think we have any answers for Jokic. Jaden would have been such a key in this series the way Murray is playing.

Game 3 is do or for die. If kat lays an egg with the season on the line and an opportunity to go down 3-0, then we’ll never go anywhere with him and unfortunately with his contract, we’re stuck with him.

Denver is tough to beat with Murray cooking. Gobert can’t hound Joker or he’ll be burned. He needs almost rover the pass while playing some defense. Bad things happen if you press Joker.

I think we could definitely still find a suitor. There are teams out there he could be a solid fit on.

[D1SGRUNTL3D]

Listening to the TNT crew, they mentioned that Kat needs to post up and we need to leave the drop coverage alone going into the next game.

Do we agree?

They get really down on Towns due to him not taking advantage of his size. Which I agree with but he just doesn’t know how to get good position.

But like another poster mentioned, him moving to the 4 does hinder his quickness advantage. Which is why it’s even more important that he get in the post at times.

However, this is now where the transition to Edwards takes place if he continues like this. He finally took control and said get out the way. He can’t sit in this series though.

Yes how crazy it sounds, we need to sag off Joker with a bad wrist. He’s too damn good when we take his defender out of his lanes to press him.

[D1SGRUNTL3D]

We may take 1 at home but I don't think we have any answers for Jokic. Jaden would have been such a key in this series the way Murray is playing.

Game 3 is do or for die. If kat lays an egg with the season on the line and an opportunity to go down 3-0, then we’ll never go anywhere with him and unfortunately with his contract, we’re stuck with him.

Denver is tough to beat with Murray cooking. Gobert can’t hound Joker or he’ll be burned. He needs almost rover the pass while playing some defense. Bad things happen if you press Joker.

I think we could definitely still find a suitor. There are teams out there he could be a solid fit on.

I mean easy to say this on a message board. Actually executing a trade that’ll probably require young talent and picks for this disappearing act in the post season is another, that comes with super max.

[Guest84]

Listening to the TNT crew, they mentioned that Kat needs to post up and we need to leave the drop coverage alone going into the next game.

Do we agree?

They get really down on Towns due to him not taking advantage of his size. Which I agree with but he just doesn’t know how to get good position.

But like another poster mentioned, him moving to the 4 does hinder his quickness advantage. Which is why it’s even more important that he get in the post at times.

However, this is now where the transition to Edwards takes place if he continues like this. He finally took control and said get out the way. He can’t sit in this series though.

He used to be a good post up player but lately, he has not been able to use his size at all. I don't know what changed. If he could post up effectively and make quick decisions it would be a big help but he can't anymore.

I believe part of it is the spacing but the one thing I’ve always noticed is his weak lower base. He’s not strong and gets uprooted easily. I also don’t think he likes to bang that much so he might allow himself to get pushed out thinking it’s an advantage for him. When in reality it’s killing the offense.

We’ll see how he responds next game.

[YaleS]

I said it a year ago and now its confirmed that playing two Cs, one of which has no skill to speak of is terrible idea. KAT also played like trash and it has happened way too many times now in the important games. I dont even want to think about the money allocated to them and the assets spent to get them. At least last year we were more competitive and fun to watch, this year the team just makes me angry.

[Muskies97]

I wish the Wolves went after Aaron Gordon back when he was available. Probably the closest thing to an ideal frontcourt partner to KAT they could have realistically gotten.

[Neeva]

I said it a year ago and now its confirmed that playing two Cs, one of which has no skill to speak of is terrible idea. KAT also played like trash and it has happened way too many times now in the important games. I dont even want to think about the money allocated to them and the assets spent to get them. At least last year we were more competitive and fun to watch, this year the team just makes me angry.

Ant is fun to watch but. Last year seemed more fun but it really wasn’t fun losing those big leads to Memphis and Clark killing us for every offensive rebound Finch is in over his head as a head coach in this league IMO.

[Calinks]

Game 3 is do or for die. If kat lays an egg with the season on the line and an opportunity to go down 3-0, then we’ll never go anywhere with him and unfortunately with his contract, we’re stuck with him.

Denver is tough to beat with Murray cooking. Gobert can’t hound Joker or he’ll be burned. He needs almost rover the pass while playing some defense. Bad things happen if you press Joker.

I think we could definitely still find a suitor. There are teams out there he could be a solid fit on.

I mean easy to say this on a message board. Actually executing a trade that’ll probably require young talent and picks for this disappearing act in the post season is another, that comes with super max.

We were getting calls on him all season. He also would go somewhere in a new role, like Wiggins. He wouldn't be expected to be what he was here and the top guy. He will be someones Robin and the right fit/scheme he could be really good. He was pretty damn good in 5 out but we have gone away from that and he hasn't been able to adapt very well.

[younggunsmn]

Everyone played well enough to win but KAT. Can't get down 21 points and expect to win.
It's an absolute damn shame we wasted such an amazing game from Ant.

There's no question he's our best player, he shines when the spotlight is brightest.
KAT with yet ANOTHER playoff meltdown.
5 years and 260 million dollars left on his contract, it's time to move on before it is too late.

Have to give props to Murray he was locked in and played out of his mind.
That entire team is just so well drilled they are very hard to stop when they are making shots.
Even when we shut down their main action they found Aaron Gordon rim running against a helpless KAT.

For the first quarter and a half it looked like we were gonna get embarrassed on national TV again for the 3rd time in 2 weeks.
At least we fought back in the 3rd quarter, but one good quarter out of 8 isn't gonna cut it.

[Battletrigger]

People who talk bad about Ant and good about Cat must wash his mouth with soup after.