The search for a new coach results in Ryan Saunders (pg 11)

[King Malta]

I feel like the power that be strongly wanted Ryan to get the job and Rosas' hands were tied. He probably wants his own coach appointed but didn't want to ruffle feathers right away. My guess is he will take Ryan on and if things go poorly, Ryan is out there door with a short leash. That way Rosas can say "Hey, we tried it your way." to Glenn and and the players while still bringing in his own guy within the first 18 months of his new job.

The biggest downside to this is that we could spend another season with a coach that isn't right for us and we will have to bring in yet another coach for guys like KAT who have had a carousel already. It is what it is.

I don't think it was Glen, since every available source refutes that idea, but I do think you're right that Rosas probably didn't want to rock the boat too much. Everyone apparently loves Ryan after all.

The other thing is that the two of them apparently have a long standing relationship already so, given Ryan's seen as a modern coach, it's not farfetched that Rosas would go for someone he's comfortable with who also already shares his vision for how the team should operate.

Not to mention that he's apparently given Ryan a 4 year deal, which mirrors his own. If you're lukewarm on a guy I don't think you give him such a lengthy contract.

[KGdaBom]

I feel like the power that be strongly wanted Ryan to get the job and Rosas' hands were tied. He probably wants his own coach appointed but didn't want to ruffle feathers right away. My guess is he will take Ryan on and if things go poorly, Ryan is out there door with a short leash. That way Rosas can say "Hey, we tried it your way." to Glenn and and the players while still bringing in his own guy within the first 18 months of his new job.

The biggest downside to this is that we could spend another season with a coach that isn't right for us and we will have to bring in yet another coach for guys like KAT who have had a carousel already. It is what it is.

I don't think it was Glen, since every available source refutes that idea, but I do think you're right that Rosas probably didn't want to rock the boat too much. Everyone apparently loves Ryan after all.

The other thing is that the two of them apparently have a long standing relationship already so, given Ryan's seen as a modern coach, it's not farfetched that Rosas would go for someone he's comfortable with who also already shares his vision for how the team should operate.

Not to mention that he's apparently given Ryan a 4 year deal, which mirrors his own. If you're lukewarm on a guy I don't think you give him such a lengthy contract.

Hopefully it was the smallest contract given to an NBA coach in a very long time. There was nobody else bidding on his services.

[KGdaBom]

As long as we have a solid competent coach it's all good. Thibs may have been the stupidest most inflexible idiot of a coach I've ever seen. Thibs never once pondered the possibility of making a lineup adjustment EVER.

Thibs got us to the playoffs in two years after we were out for a very long time. Let's see if Saunders gets us there.

[KGdaBom]

I'm so bitter about us signing Saunders. I know I should let it go, but it's really hard. I am confused, angry and feel betrayed by Rosas.

[KGdaBom]

For what It's worth I have been to other sites and this is the only one that has any positivity about Saunders. My stand is pretty average. However, this is my favorite site. So I will take a deep breath exhale bad vibes and in a few years I will probably get over this.

[theGreatRC]

I'm so bitter about us signing Saunders. I know I should let it go, but it's really hard. I am confused, angry and feel betrayed by Rosas.

That's how I felt when Thibs traded Ricky and then immediately signed Teague..


You never quite get over it..

[DaKid]

As long as we have a solid competent coach it's all good. Thibs may have been the stupidest most inflexible idiot of a coach I've ever seen. Thibs never once pondered the possibility of making a lineup adjustment EVER.

Thibs got us to the playoffs in two years after we were out for a very long time. Let's see if Saunders gets us there.

*Butler got us to the playoffs

[KGdaBom]

I'm so bitter about us signing Saunders. I know I should let it go, but it's really hard. I am confused, angry and feel betrayed by Rosas.

That's how I felt when Thibs traded Ricky and then immediately signed Teague..


You never quite get over it..

Pretty close. However, I feel this move will set us back more than that one. We got a first round pick out of that deal. Maybe if we got a first round pick thrown in for us with signing Saunders I would feel better. Maybe we saved some cap room by signing a cheap coach. (I know we didn't LOL)

Thanks Great RC.

[KGdaBom]

As long as we have a solid competent coach it's all good. Thibs may have been the stupidest most inflexible idiot of a coach I've ever seen. Thibs never once pondered the possibility of making a lineup adjustment EVER.

Thibs got us to the playoffs in two years after we were out for a very long time. Let's see if Saunders gets us there.

*Butler got us to the playoffs

And Thibodeau got us Butler.

[Klomp]

Thibs got us to the playoffs in two years after we were out for a very long time. Let's see if Saunders gets us there.

*Butler got us to the playoffs

And Thibodeau got us Butler.

As POBO, not as coach. Two different roles. Someone can be a competent POBO while being an incompetent coach at the same time.

[DaKid]

Thibs got us to the playoffs in two years after we were out for a very long time. Lert's see if Saunders gets us there.

*Butler got us to the playoffs

And Thibodeau got us Butler.

Thibs the coach did not get us butler. Saunders can't trade for players

[Klomp]

I'm so bitter about us signing Saunders. I know I should let it go, but it's really hard. I am confused, angry and feel betrayed by Rosas.

I'm just perplexed how this hire could elicit this strong of a negative response. Like I don't care if people aren't totally sold on the idea, but I just don't see this thing crashing and burning as bad as you seem to think it will.

Go back through our hires. For all you say about Saunders not having the qualifications you want in a hire, you could argue we hired guys who fit your prerequisites each of the last three coaching searches this franchise has done (Thibodeau, Adelman, Rambis). How did those work out? Maybe a change in how we hire a coach can be a good thing.....

[KGdaBom]

*Butler got us to the playoffs

And Thibodeau got us Butler.

As POBO, not as coach. Two different roles. Someone can be a competent POBO while being an incompetent coach at the same time.

Semantics and whatever. Thibodeau was the coach of our team that went to the playoffs season before last. Fact.

[KGdaBom]

I'm so bitter about us signing Saunders. I know I should let it go, but it's really hard. I am confused, angry and feel betrayed by Rosas.

I'm just perplexed how this hire could elicit this strong of a negative response. Like I don't care if people aren't totally sold on the idea, but I just don't see this thing crashing and burning as bad as you seem to think it will.

Go back through our hires. For all you say about Saunders not having the qualifications you want in a hire, you could argue we hired guys who fit your prerequisites each of the last three coaching searches this franchise has done (Thibodeau, Adelman, Rambis). How did those work out? Maybe a change in how we hire a coach can be a good thing.....

This is totally illogical. We hired coaches with credentials and they didn't work out even though IMO Thibs worked out fine until Butler became a punk. I'm almost certain Taylor forced Wiggins on him or Thibs would have moved Wiggins for something much better. I liked Dwane Casey and it was ridiculous that he was fired. Regardless it doesn't make sense to say lets hire a coach without credentials. We had young up and coming lead assistants/associate head coaches to choose from. Why did we pick the only one who had nothing worthwhile on his resume at all. When Rosas came on I thought we had a professional POBO and then he betrayed my trust.

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[Klomp]

Regardless it doesn't make sense to say lets hire a coach without credentials. We had young up and coming lead assistants/associate head coaches to choose from. Why did we pick the only one who had nothing worthwhile on his resume at all.

My point is that credentials don't guarantee success. Could also point to Steve Kerr's lack of coaching credentials when he was hired at Golden State. Boy that thing sure ended terribly....

[Grubie024]

I got a good feeling about this guy. Same with Rosas.
I can't quite put my finger on it, but for some reason I didn't have this same feeling with Thibs. I knew his pedigree as a coach, and thought we'd see good progress with Thibs' dual GM/HC role, but I never thought to myself, this is the beginning of an era of sustained improvement.
With Rosas and Saunders, I get the feeling we will see tremendous growth for a long time.

[TheDominator273]

Coaching in the NBA is as much managing egos as it is Xs and Os. Ryan has the Xs and Os and his relationships with the players speaks for itself with how many if them backed him. I have a lot of confidence that we will see a modern approach to how this team plays next season with Saunders and Rosas working together to shape this team.

[Klomp]

Coaching in the NBA is as much managing egos as it is Xs and Os. Ryan has the Xs and Os and his relationships with the players speaks for itself with how many if them backed him. I have a lot of confidence that we will see a modern approach to how this team plays next season with Saunders and Rosas working together to shape this team.

Especially considering Rosas seems to want to take a collective approach on the coaching staff. It could be that the other candidates were less open to that idea too.

[KGdaBom]

Regardless it doesn't make sense to say lets hire a coach without credentials. We had young up and coming lead assistants/associate head coaches to choose from. Why did we pick the only one who had nothing worthwhile on his resume at all.

My point is that credentials don't guarantee success. Could also point to Steve Kerr's lack of coaching credentials when he was hired at Golden State. Boy that thing sure ended terribly....

Steve Kerr had a different kind of credential. He was a multiple time NBA champion who sank game winning shots in NBA championship games. Winning championships as a player has always been considered a positive credential. I was following Arizona College basketball when Kerr played there. He was always considered a coach on the court. He could have turned out bad, but he turned out good. He had credentials.