The Julius Randle Thread

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I need to stop to post on mobile phone. I thought it happens only with twitter urls, but it seems that is general problem with Tapatalk and iOS 18

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I need to stop to post on mobile phone. I thought it happens only with twitter urls, but it seems that is general problem with Tapatalk and iOS 18

I just assume you are cursing at me, and it reads just fine.

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I heard an interesting comment today. I don’t know how I feel, and I’m curious how others feel about it?

“Coaches can’t coach effort.”

[FrenchMinnyFan]

I heard an interesting comment today. I don’t know how I feel, and I’m curious how others feel about it?

“Coaches can’t coach effort.”

The real point. I see Randle yesterday try to make a lay-up then falling down and did not even try to come back resulting an open 3 for SA. We were just lucky SA could not hit a shoot yesterday or we may have been in trouble.

[Klomp]

I heard an interesting comment today. I don’t know how I feel, and I’m curious how others feel about it?

“Coaches can’t coach effort.”

The real point. I see Randle yesterday try to make a lay-up then falling down and did not even try to come back resulting an open 3 for SA. We were just lucky SA could not hit a shoot yesterday or we may have been in trouble.

When 14 out of 15 players give maximum effort, the 1 who doesn't sticks out like a sore thumb. I think on the whole, Randle's effort level is not that different from the majority of the league. It just sticks out like a sore thumb on this team.

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I heard an interesting comment today. I don’t know how I feel, and I’m curious how others feel about it?

“Coaches can’t coach effort.”

The real point. I see Randle yesterday try to make a lay-up then falling down and did not even try to come back resulting an open 3 for SA. We were just lucky SA could not hit a shoot yesterday or we may have been in trouble.

When 14 out of 15 players give maximum effort, the 1 who doesn't sticks out like a sore thumb. I think on the whole, Randle's effort level is not that different from the majority of the league. It just sticks out like a sore thumb on this team.

So how much blame do you put on Finch for Randle’s lack of defensive effort?

[Baseline81]

When 14 out of 15 players give maximum effort, the 1 who doesn't sticks out like a sore thumb. I think on the whole, Randle's effort level is not that different from the majority of the league. It just sticks out like a sore thumb on this team.

The metaphor "one bad apple spoils the bunch" springs to mind...

All it takes is for one of the 14 to be influenced by Randle. The spread continues from there.

[Baseline81]

So how much blame do you put on Finch for Randle’s lack of defensive effort?

A fair share, to be honest. One has to think he was involved in the discussions to bring in Randle. After all, he's previously worked with him in New Orleans.

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The real point. I see Randle yesterday try to make a lay-up then falling down and did not even try to come back resulting an open 3 for SA. We were just lucky SA could not hit a shoot yesterday or we may have been in trouble.

When 14 out of 15 players give maximum effort, the 1 who doesn't sticks out like a sore thumb. I think on the whole, Randle's effort level is not that different from the majority of the league. It just sticks out like a sore thumb on this team.

So how much blame do you put on Finch for Randle’s lack of defensive effort?

I don't really like using the word "blame" for NBA coaches when talking about player effort. As someone said, effort can't really be coached. Now, you could say that Finch hasn't found the right situations to put Randle (and DiVincenzo to a lesser extent) in, but that's a different discussion to me.

[Loaf_of_bread]

The effort is one thing .. Randle's biggest problem is the negative attitude he wears on his sleeves + the internal thought in his mind that he is a no. 1.

[Benjams]

The effort is one thing .. Randle's biggest problem is the negative attitude he wears on his sleeves + the internal thought in his mind that he is a no. 1.

I agree with both points and also the lack of effort. He seems to play for stats more than to win. Against the Spurs, he didn't look happy to win, barely smiled when the whole team was celebrating the Dillingham to Minott dunk. I believe it was because he tied his season low at 11 points and was on the bench.

At the beginning of the season, Randle was playing like this is his team. In games where he gets too many attempts, the game ends badly for the Wolves. The more attempts and ball time Randle got, McDaniels, Conley, NAW, Goberb, and Edwards ended up going cold. When he plays like a role player and doesn't force bad attempts, Wolves play better. His passing after too much dribbling is sketchy. He struggles passing in the paint because he dribbles in to get a shot off for himself but not looking to set someone up. He doesn't know where Gobert is, horrible unreachable pass or turnover. He's a talented player but lacks speed. I think that's why he constantly gets burned on defense. It's his speed that makes him look like he has poor or no effort defense. You can only be a little faster with more effort. It's a trait, not a talent.

With all that said, I still think he is a weapon for this team to have. The team has to use him the right way. In addition, he has to accept it. He usually goes right at the defense no matter what. He can stop runs and slow the tempo by getting fouled easily. He can finish in the paint well. Is he going to be happy scoring 11 a game to win? Doesn't really look like it after seeing his body language. He's an offense only player, low to average defense at best

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[Loaf_of_bread]

The effort is one thing .. Randle's biggest problem is the negative attitude he wears on his sleeves + the internal thought in his mind that he is a no. 1.

I agree with both points and also the lack of effort. He seems to play for stats more than to win. Against the Spurs, he didn't look happy to win, barely smiled when the whole team was celebrating the Dillingham to Minott dunk. I believe it was because he tied his season low at 11 points and was on the bench.

At the beginning of the season, Randle was playing like this is his team. In games where he gets too many attempts, the game ends badly for the Wolves. The more attempts and ball time Randle got, McDaniels, Conley, NAW, Goberb, and Edwards ended up going cold. When he plays like a role player and doesn't force bad attempts, Wolves play better. His passing after too much dribbling is sketchy. He struggles passing in the paint because he dribbles in to get a shot off for himself but not looking to set someone up. He doesn't know where Gobert is, horrible unreachable pass or turnover. He's a talented player but lacks speed. I think that's why he constantly gets burned on defense. It's his speed that makes him look like he has poor or no effort defense. You can only be a little faster with more effort. It's a trait, not a talent.

With all that said, I still think he is a weapon for this team to have. The team has to use him the right way. In addition, he has to accept it. He usually goes right at the defense no matter what. He can stop runs and slow the tempo by getting fouled easily. He can finish in the paint well. Is he going to be happy scoring 11 a game to win? Doesn't really look like it after seeing his body language. He's an offense only player, low to average defense at best

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Nice post. He needs to let the game come to him, instead of going into a possession with the mentality: "I'm going to get mine, and force it pickup style."

Unfortunately, intellectual capacity is the problem with him.

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https://theboxandone.substack.com/p/strength-4-identifying-the-next-wave

I feel like the hope before Randle trade was that he can be such Strength-4 PLUS some drive-and-kick game. Keshad Johnson might a good example of such player archetype.

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After going 5-for-6 in an upset win over HOU, Randle is now shooting 38.2% 3P on 4.6 3PA

Over his last three, Randle is 10-18 3P, 10.3 RPG, 7.7 APG, 23.0 PPG.

[Norseman79]

After going 5-for-6 in an upset win over HOU, Randle is now shooting 38.2% 3P on 4.6 3PA

Over his last three, Randle is 10-18 3P, 10.3 RPG, 7.7 APG, 23.0 PPG.

Sell high....

[cmoss84]

Julius, Jaden, and DD for Giannis!!

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Julius, Jaden, and DD for Giannis!!

Can you even imagine our defense end of games?!?

Ant + NAW + Naz + Giannis + Gobert?!?

[cmoss84]

Get it done ARod!

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