Trade Talk (Part 17): Early Offseason Planning

[Klomp]

I would love to add a Shaun Livingston-type guard to our lineup. Who fits?!

Egor Demin?

That's honestly the biggest part of his appeal for me. Wish there was another in the current NBA too though.

[minimus]

At least Gobert has been healthy for bigmen standards. Not sure if it matters in trades tho

[TheZachAttack]

I am ready to let the kids get minutes (Rob, Shannon, Clark) even to the extent that means names like Conley, Naz, NAW, and Randle are gone. To me the whole 8 starter thing is not true, neither Naz or NAW are NBA level starters. They are decent backups, especially when in roles to be play finishers rather than creators.

I want 20+ min per game roles for all 3. My ultimate preference would be that Rudy/Conley are gone and those minutes are replaced by those guys but I know that won't happen.

[Guidus88]

Rudy Gobert for Onyeka Okongwu, Terrence Mann and #22

I like the Gobert for Okongwu swap but i’m not so happy to get Mann and his contract, in particular since TSJ and Clark are on the rise.

[jpatrick]

Rudy Gobert for Onyeka Okongwu, Terrence Mann and #22

I like the Gobert for Okongwu swap but i’m not so happy to get Mann and his contract, in particular since TSJ and Clark are on the rise.

Mann is a good player. If we want to move him to a third team, I’m sure we could. ATL has to ship him in the deal to come close to matching salary. Not a lot of other options on that roster for salary.

[Guidus88]

Rudy Gobert for Onyeka Okongwu, Terrence Mann and #22

I like the Gobert for Okongwu swap but i’m not so happy to get Mann and his contract, in particular since TSJ and Clark are on the rise.

Mann is a good player. If we want to move him to a third team, I’m sure we could. ATL has to ship him in the deal to come close to matching salary. Not a lot of other options on that roster for salary.

Yes, you got my point. That trade is a very good starting point but a third team needs to be involved.

[cmoss84]

I've got it! (and it's finals, so I have some time)
MN and PHO would have to do some fenagling do get under the 2nd apron (no idea what this would take), but you get the concept.
I've been itching to use sportrac for a nice 4 team trade again, so here you go.
Random thoughts: Phoenix seems to be in terrible shape no matter what, but this seems to benefit mostly everyone. I'm sure they can get someone better for KD, but who? I suppose you could switch NAZ and Robinson in this trade, if it works better. Mike could also go to Cleveland. Ware and Bam on the same team...for how long? Do they keep both? Miami would have an interesting mix of vets and young guys. Cleveland size would be massive.

Cleveland IN: Naz Reid, Cody Martin, Terry Rozier, #20 pick
Cleveland OUT: Darius Garland, Craig Porter Jr., #49 & #58
Depth: Mitchell-Hunter-Naz-Mobley-Allen
Rozier-Strus-Okoro-Wade-Rookie (#20)

Phoenix IN: Rudy Gobert, Duncan Robinson, #17
Phoenix OUT: Kevin Durant, Nick Richards, and Cody Martin
Depth: Beal (traded first?) Booker-Allen-O'Neale-Rudy
Robinson-Micic-Dunn-Ighodaro-Rookie (#17)

Miami IN: Julius Randle, Minott, Craig Porter Jr., #49 & #58
Miami OUT: Terry Rozier, Duncan Robinson, #20
Depth: Mitchell-Herro-Wiggins-Randle-Bam
Kyle-Highsmith-JJJ-Jovic-Ware

MN IN: Kevin Durant, Darius Garland, Nick Richards
MN OUT: Rudy, Randle, Naz, Minott and #17
Starting 5: Darius/Ant/Jaden/KD/Richards
PG: Darius-Mike-RD
SG: Ant-DD-Clark
SF: Jaden-TSJ-Miller
PF: KD-Jaden-Miller
C: Richards-Rookie (#31)-Garza

[TheZachAttack]

One player that I would definitely go after is Tyus Jones. He would serve a huge need for us as an efficient scorer, initiator, and PG who can play both on and off the ball.

[Klomp]

Rudy Gobert for Onyeka Okongwu, Terrence Mann and #22

I like the Gobert for Okongwu swap but i’m not so happy to get Mann and his contract, in particular since TSJ and Clark are on the rise.

I've thought the same initially, but MLE money isn't bad for Mann.

[JustBuzzin]

Y'all want LaMelo Ball?

Give us Conley/Shannon Jr/Reid/#17 for LaMelo

[jpatrick]

Y'all want LaMelo Ball?

Give us Conley/Shannon Jr/Reid/#17 for LaMelo

Is Melo’s value really this low? I wanted him over Ant back in 2020. I was wrong.

[JustBuzzin]

Y'all want LaMelo Ball?

Give us Conley/Shannon Jr/Reid/#17 for LaMelo

Is Melo’s value really this low? I wanted him over Ant back in 2020. I was wrong.

It depends his talent is not the question it's his ability to stay healthy.

I'm just high on Shannon Jr. I think that kid has potential as a scorer.

[cmoss84]

One player that I would definitely go after is Tyus Jones. He would serve a huge need for us as an efficient scorer, initiator, and PG who can play both on and off the ball.

He's my #2 priority.

[cmoss84]

So I'm a little confused...are we able to sign and trade NAW? I would love to do so for Podz. I think he's very underrated, and that is without his rookie contract in consideration. And he would have a year to learn some lefty trickery from Mike.

[MN7725]

I like the Gobert for Okongwu swap but i’m not so happy to get Mann and his contract, in particular since TSJ and Clark are on the rise.

Mann is a good player. If we want to move him to a third team, I’m sure we could. ATL has to ship him in the deal to come close to matching salary. Not a lot of other options on that roster for salary.

Yes, you got my point. That trade is a very good starting point but a third team needs to be involved.

Mann or DDV would be bit redundant even though they are different players, move one of their mid size salaries to get more of true ball handler, offensive threat

Collin Sexton? Ant and he are buds from ATL
always liked the fire he plays with too

[Mattya]

3. I would probably start Donte at PG next year and see what he can do, that or he boosts his number for a team next trade deadline.

I feel like that would tank his value. He's terrible on ball - both creating for himself and others. His biggest strength is Catch and Shoot.

I don't know why that would tank his value. If he can't play point guard then other teams will see his increased production on pure numbers basis and want him as a shooting guard.

[MN7725]

looking through the league, i actually think Collin Sexton might be best trade fit in terms of salary and skill set that might be available

I will say I look at it through keeping Gobert, not trying to move him, I think he'll look much better with a threat at "PG". Sexton isn't really a true PG but is at least someone that can run offense and the defense has to respect

[BlacJacMac]

3. I would probably start Donte at PG next year and see what he can do, that or he boosts his number for a team next trade deadline.

I feel like that would tank his value. He's terrible on ball - both creating for himself and others. His biggest strength is Catch and Shoot.

I don't know why that would tank his value. If he can't play point guard then other teams will see his increased production on pure numbers basis and want him as a shooting guard.

Because we’d be highlighting what he can’t do. And if he struggles next year because of it, teams will look less favorably on him.

[Domejandro]

Y'all want LaMelo Ball?

Give us Conley/Shannon Jr/Reid/#17 for LaMelo

Done yesterday.

I know he had a tragically terrible year and is an injury machine, but Minnesota is desperate for any sort of upside. As a note, it would definitely have to be some sort of sign-and-trade, given that Naz Reid probably wouldn't be too jazzed to pick up his Player Option to pick Charlotte (nothing personal, just the truth of it).

[Guest84]

Y'all want LaMelo Ball?

Give us Conley/Shannon Jr/Reid/#17 for LaMelo

Is Melo’s value really this low? I wanted him over Ant back in 2020. I was wrong.

It depends his talent is not the question it's his ability to stay healthy.

I'm just high on Shannon Jr. I think that kid has potential as a scorer.

I still think it’ll take a lot more than that.