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Re: Lowe - Timberwolves Still Want D-Russell 

Post#261 » by minimus » Wed Jun 26, 2019 9:36 am

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'Tried' is past tense, that makes me feel more pessimistic than anything...


Yeah, I know, at least they tried! :lol:
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Post#262 » by GeekFreak » Wed Jun 26, 2019 9:40 am

minimus wrote:It is happening! It is happening!

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lol, your like Lloyd Christmas from Dumb and Dumber: "SO THERE IS A CHANCE!" :banghead:
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Post#263 » by D1SGRUNTL3D » Wed Jun 26, 2019 10:59 am

Nets still wouldn't do that trade if Dlo was eaten alive by a great white shark today
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Re: Lowe - Timberwolves Still Want D-Russell 

Post#264 » by jpatrick » Wed Jun 26, 2019 11:18 am

It’s incredible how bad of a contract that is. Some contracts look bad in hindsight, but Wiggins was a horrible contract from day one. Still four years 120m+ = franchise anchor.

I see only two possibilities for teams willing to take him to facilitate a sign and trade. The Kings because, you know, they’re the Kings, and they have a hole created by Barnes opting out. The other would be the Raptors if they really want to bring him home. I don’t think they have room, but I think they could create a TPE if they agreed to S/T Leonard to Clips if that’s where he decided to go.
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Post#265 » by alabamawolf » Wed Jun 26, 2019 11:25 am

jpatrick wrote:It’s incredible how bad of a contract that is. Some contracts look bad in hindsight, but Wiggins was a horrible contract from day one. Still four years 120m+ = franchise anchor.

I see only two possibilities for teams willing to take him to facilitate a sign and trade. The Kings because, you know, they’re the Kings, and they have a hole created by Barnes opting out. The other would be the Raptors if they really want to bring him home. I don’t think they have room, but I think they could create a TPE if they agreed to S/T Leonard to Clips if that’s where he decided to go.

Ujiri is way too smart to take on Wiggins
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Re: Lowe - Timberwolves Still Want D-Russell 

Post#266 » by jpatrick » Wed Jun 26, 2019 11:46 am

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jpatrick wrote:It’s incredible how bad of a contract that is. Some contracts look bad in hindsight, but Wiggins was a horrible contract from day one. Still four years 120m+ = franchise anchor.

I see only two possibilities for teams willing to take him to facilitate a sign and trade. The Kings because, you know, they’re the Kings, and they have a hole created by Barnes opting out. The other would be the Raptors if they really want to bring him home. I don’t think they have room, but I think they could create a TPE if they agreed to S/T Leonard to Clips if that’s where he decided to go.

Ujiri is way too smart to take on Wiggins


Unfortunately, you are probably correct.
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Post#267 » by Crazy-Canuck » Wed Jun 26, 2019 12:09 pm

Rosas undid a whole lot of good with one swoop.

He went on and on about wiggins and trying to do what he can to help develop him, then goes out to try and trade him.

Im guessing he also didnt inform kat of this move.

I don't know whats worse. That or that he believed he could get wiggs for dlo.
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Re: Lowe - Timberwolves Still Want D-Russell 

Post#268 » by Worm Guts » Wed Jun 26, 2019 12:18 pm

Crazy-Canuck wrote:Rosas undid a whole lot of good with one swoop.

He went on and on about wiggins and trying to do what he can to help develop him, then goes out to try and trade him.

Im guessing he also didnt inform kat of this move.

I don't know whats worse. That or that he believed he could get wiggs for dlo.


I don't think any of that matters at all. He has to look to improve the team without concern about hurting egos.
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Re: Lowe - Timberwolves Still Want D-Russell 

Post#269 » by Macwolf527 » Wed Jun 26, 2019 12:39 pm

minimus wrote:
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minimus wrote:It is happening! It is happening!

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'Tried' is past tense, that makes me feel more pessimistic than anything...


Yeah, I know, at least they tried! :lol:


That's how the process works. You start with the absurd and then peel away. You don't put your best offer on the table at the beginning, you put your worst, then slowly add until it's appetizing to someone. Also, it doesn't mean that Wiggins will necessarily go to the Nets for DLo. You find another team that does find Wiggins appealing and work them into the equation until each team sees something they like. All the Wiggins offer says is, "We're Interested, so let's negotiate". Keep in mind, there's no guarantee other FA's are going to follow Irving to the Nets, so Brooklyn may not like Wiggins now, but that could all change a few weeks out when the best options are no longer available. I like the move by Rosas, because it's says, we don't have capspace, but we want to be in the game. It's AGGRESSIVE!
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Re: Lowe - Timberwolves Still Want D-Russell 

Post#270 » by Crazy-Canuck » Wed Jun 26, 2019 12:51 pm

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Crazy-Canuck wrote:Rosas undid a whole lot of good with one swoop.

He went on and on about wiggins and trying to do what he can to help develop him, then goes out to try and trade him.

Im guessing he also didnt inform kat of this move.

I don't know whats worse. That or that he believed he could get wiggs for dlo.


I don't think any of that matters at all. He has to look to improve the team without concern about hurting egos.


I get it.

Covington in rumors and now wiggs.

I thought maybe he'd evaluate and see then on the floor when healthy before making moves. We were pretty good when cov was healthy last year.
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Re: Lowe - Timberwolves Still Want D-Russell 

Post#271 » by Worm Guts » Wed Jun 26, 2019 12:56 pm

Crazy-Canuck wrote:
Worm Guts wrote:
Crazy-Canuck wrote:Rosas undid a whole lot of good with one swoop.

He went on and on about wiggins and trying to do what he can to help develop him, then goes out to try and trade him.

Im guessing he also didnt inform kat of this move.

I don't know whats worse. That or that he believed he could get wiggs for dlo.


I don't think any of that matters at all. He has to look to improve the team without concern about hurting egos.


I get it.

Covington in rumors and now wiggs.

I thought maybe he'd evaluate and see then on the floor when healthy before making moves. We were pretty good when cov was healthy last year.


We know what Wiggins is, we know what Covington is. We should probably be willing to move Wiggins if we can get any type of reasonable value for him. Whether we should trade Covington depends on value and what direction we're going.
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Re: Lowe - Timberwolves Still Want D-Russell 

Post#272 » by Macwolf527 » Wed Jun 26, 2019 1:12 pm

Crazy-Canuck wrote:
Worm Guts wrote:
Crazy-Canuck wrote:Rosas undid a whole lot of good with one swoop.

He went on and on about wiggins and trying to do what he can to help develop him, then goes out to try and trade him.

Im guessing he also didnt inform kat of this move.

I don't know whats worse. That or that he believed he could get wiggs for dlo.


I don't think any of that matters at all. He has to look to improve the team without concern about hurting egos.


I get it.

Covington in rumors and now wiggs.

I thought maybe he'd evaluate and see then on the floor when healthy before making moves. We were pretty good when cov was healthy last year.


Keep in mind, teams were asking for Covington, we weren't necessarily offering him up. Now for the right deal, I would, solely because I feel like he'll be on the decline by the time this team is ready to peek. In the meantime, he's a solid starter on a good contract, so he has good value and it will be in our best interest to move him at some point to maximize his trade value.
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Re: Lowe - Timberwolves Still Want D-Russell 

Post#273 » by Slim Tubby » Wed Jun 26, 2019 1:30 pm

minimus wrote:It is happening! It is happening!

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Even if the Nets strike out in FA, I highly doubt they would invest their cap space in Wiggins without the Wolves adding a TON of value. I guess we can all dream that the Nets would be that dumb.
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Re: Lowe - Timberwolves Still Want D-Russell 

Post#274 » by shrink » Wed Jun 26, 2019 2:54 pm

Thinking Wiggins is a pathway to Russell reminds me of Wiley Coyote painting a tunnel on solid rock.
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Re: Lowe - Timberwolves Still Want D-Russell 

Post#275 » by Domejandro » Wed Jun 26, 2019 3:55 pm

The stones on Gersson to actually suggest that to Sean Marks.
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Post#276 » by Domejandro » Wed Jun 26, 2019 3:58 pm

For the record, if Minnesota trades Jeff Teague and Gorgui Dieng, they could actually open up cap-space in two ways....
1. Waive Cameron Reynolds (immediate promise to resign him).
2. Extend Tyus for less than his cap-hold.
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Re: Lowe - Timberwolves Still Want D-Russell 

Post#277 » by TheZachAttack » Wed Jun 26, 2019 3:58 pm

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minimus wrote:It is happening! It is happening!

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Even if the Nets strike out in FA, I highly doubt they would invest their cap space in Wiggins without the Wolves adding a TON of value. I guess we can all dream that the Nets would be that dumb.


I agree. The only thing I can think of is that the Nets player development program has been insane recently and they have to have confidence in their ability to maximize player potential.

Joe Harris and D Lo were not nearly the players they were on their previous teams. You could argue that D Lo could be thought of similarly to Wiggins to some extent on the Lakers.

Dinwiddie, Levert, Jarrett Allen, etc. all seem to be maxing their potential out and outperforming expectations.

They would maybe feel they can develop Wiggins in a way that the Wolves cannot. Other than Towns the Wolves have not really historically been able to maximize players and in fact most players seem to regress when they come to the Wolves.

Recent years things have been better but still...


That's really the Wiggins scenario that I can see a team going down.
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Re: Lowe - Timberwolves Still Want D-Russell 

Post#278 » by KGdaBom » Wed Jun 26, 2019 4:10 pm

Kyrie to the Nets sounds like done deal.

http://www.msn.com/en-us/sports/nba/report-nets-likely-to-sign-kyrie-irving-to-4-year-dollar141-million-deal/ar-AADrPPO?ocid=ientp

It's doubtful the Nets want to go with both Russell and Irving so first domino to fall in Russell to the Wolves.
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Re: Lowe - Timberwolves Still Want D-Russell 

Post#279 » by Mattya » Wed Jun 26, 2019 4:16 pm

Domejandro wrote:For the record, if Minnesota trades Jeff Teague and Gorgui Dieng, they could actually open up cap-space in two ways....
1. Waive Cameron Reynolds (immediate promise to resign him).
2. Extend Tyus for less than his cap-hold.


Or the more obvious, rescind his QO. Would like to keep him as our back up, but we might get outbid for Tyus in FA anyway.
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Re: Lowe - Timberwolves Still Want D-Russell 

Post#280 » by shrink » Wed Jun 26, 2019 4:19 pm

KGdaBom wrote:Kyrie to the Nets sounds like done deal.

http://www.msn.com/en-us/sports/nba/report-nets-likely-to-sign-kyrie-irving-to-4-year-dollar141-million-deal/ar-AADrPPO?ocid=ientp

It's doubtful the Nets want to go with both Russell and Irving so first domino to fall in Russell to the Wolves.

Plus they already paid Dinwiddie.

Domino 2 is seeing if Kyrie can bring Kevin Durant, and the news today that GSW isn’t going to keep him makes that more encouraging.

However, I think this is a road for Russell going “somewhere,” but him going to the Wolves seems highly unlikely.
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