The Jaylen Nowell Thread

[minimus]

but I do think Nowell has a future in this league and I do think he could earn the backup SG role this year.

I hope he can get a more defined role with the main team next to an established ballhandler. He looked lost on the floor with MIN, missing easy shots. I think our up-down season did not help him either if we put him in more stable, consistent environment he will start to produce. Although working on ballhandling, off-ball movement is a must for him.

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[winforlose]

but I do think Nowell has a future in this league and I do think he could earn the backup SG role this year.

I hope he can get a more defined role with the main team next to an established ballhandler. He looked lost on the floor with MIN, missing easy shots. I think our up-down season did not help him either if we put him in more stable, consistent environment he will start to produce. Although working on ballhandling, off-ball movement is a must for him.

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Nowell showed his talent in the G league. His problem is mental. He needs a KAT or Dlo to commit to helping him figure out his game at the NBA level. Consistent playing time plus mentoring will make him valuable. I mean look at the shooting percentages in Iowa vs Minnesota. The kid is a high percentage 3% shooter who chokes when shooting 3s in the NBA. I think two seasons from now he will be a legit backup who we are all comfortable with getting minutes if our starters are out.

[minimus]

but I do think Nowell has a future in this league and I do think he could earn the backup SG role this year.

I hope he can get a more defined role with the main team next to an established ballhandler. He looked lost on the floor with MIN, missing easy shots. I think our up-down season did not help him either if we put him in more stable, consistent environment he will start to produce. Although working on ballhandling, off-ball movement is a must for him.

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Nowell showed his talent in the G league. His problem is mental. He needs a KAT or Dlo to commit to helping him figure out his game at the NBA level. Consistent playing time plus mentoring will make him valuable. I mean look at the shooting percentages in Iowa vs Minnesota. The kid is a high percentage 3% shooter who chokes when shooting 3s in the NBA. I think two seasons from now he will be a legit backup who we are all comfortable with getting minutes if our starters are out.

Yes, that is what I mean. It is like having set roster with bench unit who played and trained together will help. I still hope that teams who are not playing bubble will have their own bubble etc.

[Jedzz]

He looked lost on the floor with MIN, missing easy shots.

He never looked lost. He was just stuck in his own head on the 3s because he couldn't get any consistent minutes to break out of it.
It's too bad he had to have that issue but many have at the beginning. Defensively looked pretty good. Offensively you could tell he had no role in the offense, no practice with the team. Why would he, pulled up the day before, sent back the day after DNPS type of season.

[Klomp]

It's worth noting how bad McLaughlin looked in his first stint with the NBA team. Even Kelan Martin took awhile, missing his first 11 3-pointers. Sometimes it takes awhile for young guys to adjust right away.

[Jedzz]

It's worth noting how bad McLaughlin looked in his first stint with the NBA team. Even Kelan Martin took awhile, missing his first 11 3-pointers. Sometimes it takes awhile for young guys to adjust right away.

We've discussed these things at the time during the season already. However not many want to admit it then. It is interesting that all three of them came in looking out of sorts. jMac first, then Kelan. But both of them got instant larger minute roles due to injuries making them necessary. So they were thrust into larger roles and were forced to snap out of it in shorter time period. Even Reid got in much earlier due to injury needs, and again much larger minute load for it. Nowell was brought up in micro moments much later, and I think it only happened because either Rosas wanted a look before all the looming trades he planned or another team wanted a look.

The interesting part was how each of them had that initial struggle that seemed similar, especially the initial 3 pt shooting. You mentioned Martin's stretch of missed shots. It was ugly at first. Mclaughlins first couple games, massive minutes out of the blue, he looked like he should never come back it was so overwhelming looking for him. But later coming back from the G he looked like a transformed version of himself. I sort of wonder why that is, being that the Iowa Wolves were supposed to be running something so similar. Something really threw these kids off at first. Is it just pacing difference? Something about it had them less prepared than I would have expected.

[Klomp]

The interesting part was how each of them had that initial struggle that seemed similar, especially the initial 3 pt shooting. You mentioned Martin's stretch of missed shots. It was ugly at first. Mclaughlins first couple games, massive minutes out of the blue, he looked like he should never come back it was so overwhelming looking for him. But later coming back from the G he looked like a transformed version of himself. I sort of wonder why that is, being that the Iowa Wolves were supposed to be running something so similar. Something really threw these kids off at first. Is it just pacing difference? Something about it had them less prepared than I would have expected.

I would guess a combination of pacing and the size/speed difference. There are no LeBrons in the G League. No Giannises.

[minimus]

The interesting part was how each of them had that initial struggle that seemed similar, especially the initial 3 pt shooting. You mentioned Martin's stretch of missed shots. It was ugly at first. Mclaughlins first couple games, massive minutes out of the blue, he looked like he should never come back it was so overwhelming looking for him. But later coming back from the G he looked like a transformed version of himself. I sort of wonder why that is, being that the Iowa Wolves were supposed to be running something so similar. Something really threw these kids off at first. Is it just pacing difference? Something about it had them less prepared than I would have expected.

I would guess a combination of pacing and the size/speed difference. There are no LeBrons in the G League. No Giannises.

That's correct, but Nowell did not even play against starters, mostly against end of bench players. Or to make things looks worse he struggled against end of bench NBA players.

[Klomp]

It's interesting looking back at his numbers. Shot 7-16 in his first 5 games, but was 0-9 on 3-pointers. Yes, if you do the math it means he was 7-7 on 2-pointers.

[Jedzz]

I never saw the moment but I thought I saw a highlight where he finally connected on one 3pt and they made a big deal out of it finally happening. maybe I was just imagining that?

[Jedzz]

The interesting part was how each of them had that initial struggle that seemed similar, especially the initial 3 pt shooting. You mentioned Martin's stretch of missed shots. It was ugly at first. Mclaughlins first couple games, massive minutes out of the blue, he looked like he should never come back it was so overwhelming looking for him. But later coming back from the G he looked like a transformed version of himself. I sort of wonder why that is, being that the Iowa Wolves were supposed to be running something so similar. Something really threw these kids off at first. Is it just pacing difference? Something about it had them less prepared than I would have expected.

I would guess a combination of pacing and the size/speed difference. There are no LeBrons in the G League. No Giannises.

That's correct, but Nowell did not even play against starters, mostly against end of bench players. Or to make things looks worse he struggled against end of bench NBA players.

Quite the sassy hater of this player I see minimus. He didn't appear to struggle at anything except the 3s just wouldn't go in.

Let's counter your fuzzy reality with some reality about our Top6 pick written by Keith from a realGM article.

Culver was a disappointment as a rookie. It was hoped he could play either wing position, and provide some playmaking as well. Instead, he shot it poorly, provided little playmaking and looked overwhelmed defensively. Culver is still young enough to improve, but he’s going to have a make a leap for the Wolves to feel like he’s a rotation player.

That's a little different description from the giant list of great defensive moments you wrote here about Culver not long ago. Wasn't that you?

[Klomp]

I never saw the moment but I thought I saw a highlight where he finally connected on one 3pt and they made a big deal out of it finally happening. maybe I was just imagining that?

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[minimus]

I would guess a combination of pacing and the size/speed difference. There are no LeBrons in the G League. No Giannises.

That's correct, but Nowell did not even play against starters, mostly against end of bench players. Or to make things looks worse he struggled against end of bench NBA players.

Quite the sassy hater of this player I see minimus. He didn't appear to struggle at anything except the 3s just wouldn't go in.

Let's counter your fuzzy reality with some reality about our Top6 pick written by Keith from a realGM article.

Culver was a disappointment as a rookie. It was hoped he could play either wing position, and provide some playmaking as well. Instead, he shot it poorly, provided little playmaking and looked overwhelmed defensively. Culver is still young enough to improve, but he’s going to have a make a leap for the Wolves to feel like he’s a rotation player.

That's a little different description from the giant list of great defensive moments you wrote here about Culver not long ago. Wasn't that you?

Yeah, Culver struggled against NBA starters, Nowell struggled against NBA bench players. What's your point? Sassy hater of Nowell? Common, Jedzz! Relax, it might happen that all three players, Culver, Nowell and JMac wont be with this team when new season starts.

[SO_MONEY]

Some people are really undervaluing Nowell, the reality is this: the combination of advanced moves and footwork he has demonstrated is a rare commodity and to have them at his age and with the expectation of shooting to come around, he could be pretty special.

[Neeva]

That's correct, but Nowell did not even play against starters, mostly against end of bench players. Or to make things looks worse he struggled against end of bench NBA players.

Quite the sassy hater of this player I see minimus. He didn't appear to struggle at anything except the 3s just wouldn't go in.

Let's counter your fuzzy reality with some reality about our Top6 pick written by Keith from a realGM article.

Culver was a disappointment as a rookie. It was hoped he could play either wing position, and provide some playmaking as well. Instead, he shot it poorly, provided little playmaking and looked overwhelmed defensively. Culver is still young enough to improve, but he’s going to have a make a leap for the Wolves to feel like he’s a rotation player.

That's a little different description from the giant list of great defensive moments you wrote here about Culver not long ago. Wasn't that you?

Yeah, Culver struggled against NBA starters, Nowell struggled against NBA bench players. What's your point? Sassy hater of Nowell? Common, Jedzz! Relax, it might happen that all three players, Culver, Nowell and JMac wont be with this team when new season starts.

“Jeedzz” isn’t even a Nowell fan he just has an incessant need to always be right.

[KGdaBom]

It's interesting looking back at his numbers. Shot 7-16 in his first 5 games, but was 0-9 on 3-pointers. Yes, if you do the math it means he was 7-7 on 2-pointers.

Seems like a nerves/confidence issue.

[Jedzz]

Quite the sassy hater of this player I see minimus. He didn't appear to struggle at anything except the 3s just wouldn't go in.

Let's counter your fuzzy reality with some reality about our Top6 pick written by Keith from a realGM article.



That's a little different description from the giant list of great defensive moments you wrote here about Culver not long ago. Wasn't that you?

Yeah, Culver struggled against NBA starters, Nowell struggled against NBA bench players. What's your point? Sassy hater of Nowell? Common, Jedzz! Relax, it might happen that all three players, Culver, Nowell and JMac wont be with this team when new season starts.

“Jeedzz” isn’t even a Nowell fan he just has an incessant need to always be right.

Wow neeva. Not sure where you are getting that. I've written 6 books on Nowell here since his drafting. Thanks for noticing.

My point here was Minimus' ultra positive posts about Culver lately. Which I have no problems with someone trying to be positive. But then read every line about players like this and...he's just dishing out fairly derogatory opinions with an obvious reason to me. I find it sad. Most of his rare rotations this season were quite positive, positive in plus/minus. And that's hard to do from this teams bench with spurts of 2-3 minutes at a time. He just had a case of butterflies in the brain over 3pt shots yet. That's really the only negative thing to report if watching the games. Half of Culver's minutes were against the same depth line ups and it didn't help him look any more ready for that amount of minutes. But of course you aren't going to hear that from minimus at this time. I know he knows better.

[minimus]

Yeah, Culver struggled against NBA starters, Nowell struggled against NBA bench players. What's your point? Sassy hater of Nowell? Common, Jedzz! Relax, it might happen that all three players, Culver, Nowell and JMac wont be with this team when new season starts.

“Jeedzz” isn’t even a Nowell fan he just has an incessant need to always be right.

Wow neeva. Not sure where you are getting that. I've written 6 books on Nowell here since his drafting. Thanks for noticing.

My point here was Minimus' ultra positive posts about Culver lately. Which I have no problems with someone trying to be positive. But then read every line about players like this and...he's just dishing out fairly derogatory opinions with an obvious reason to me. I find it sad. Most of his rare rotations this season were quite positive, positive in plus/minus. And that's hard to do from this teams bench with spurts of 2-3 minutes at a time. He just had a case of butterflies in the brain over 3pt shots yet. That's really the only negative thing to report if watching the games. Half of Culver's minutes were against the same depth line ups and it didn't help him look any more ready for that amount of minutes. But of course you aren't going to hear that from minimus at this time. I know he knows better.

Wow Jedzz. You bite like a dog every my even slightly "negative" post about Nowell, or JMac. Maybe you try to read my every post, huh? Just like you wrote to KGDaBom, you can ignore my posts in future.

[Jedzz]

Wow Jedzz. You bite like a dog every my even slightly "negative" post about Nowell, or JMac. Maybe you try to read my every post, huh?

None of these recent takes of yours on this player, in this thread, are even remotely true or complete representations of anything real. I now await your inevitable positive swing of posts about him elsewhere to releave this pressure. Welcome it.

Nutshell.

You: "he was lost"

my reply - "no, he wasn't lost. He had one issue with sinking 3s. Why are you so postiive on Culver and negative on this guy?"

Your answer. "Culver was lost against starters and Nowell was lost agaisnt bench players"

Give us all a break from your biased weak responses like this. "slightly negative"

You have posted a wall of one line descriptions about each "positive" defensive move you think Culver made in a rough rookie season if you ask anyone. That was great, you were trying to be positive for him and for us. But then it's this junk when it comes to describing an undrafted player. "he's lost" He's lost against bench players..." Wonderful! I disagree and will do so.

[minimus]

Wow Jedzz. You bite like a dog every my even slightly "negative" post about Nowell, or JMac. Maybe you try to read my every post, huh?

None of these recent takes of yours on this player, in this thread, are even remotely true or complete representations of anything real.

Nutshell.

You: "he was lost"

my reply - "no, he wasn't lost. He had one issue with sinking 3s. Why are you so postiive on Culver and negative on this guy?"

Your answer. "Culver was lost against starters and Nowell was lost agaisnt bench players"

Give us all a break from your bias and responses like this. "slightly negative"

You have posted a wall of one line descriptions about each "positive" defensive move you think Culver made in a really rough rookie season. But then it's this junk when it comes to describing an undrafted player. "he's lost" He's lost against bench players..." Wonderful! I disagree and will do so.

Okay, then sorry, I will not respond to you.