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Draft Day: Round 1

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Re: Draft Day: Round 1 

Post#261 » by Loaf_of_bread » Thu Jun 26, 2025 2:36 am

moss_is_1 wrote:Hope someone falls and 31 is a hot commodity for teams to try trading for all night since the 2nd round is tomorrow.


Worth trading for a lightly protected first next year, which is possible.
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Re: Draft Day: Round 1 

Post#262 » by KGdaBom » Thu Jun 26, 2025 2:36 am

winforlose wrote:
Loaf_of_bread wrote:
KGdaBom wrote:I hope you're right.


Who knows at the end of the day. We've got enough depth in the short term. It would be frustrating having another young guy rot on the bench, given ZERO opportunity from the coach. Better drafting a HIGH upside guy that needs some time.


Worst case there is always Iowa.

If he's going to Iowa could we stash him instead? Is that the reason we drafted him to save on Salary cap?
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Re: Draft Day: Round 1 

Post#263 » by moss_is_1 » Thu Jun 26, 2025 2:36 am

Should still be a pretty good player at 31.

Jase, Wolf, Saraf, Newell, Kalkbrenner, Raynaud, Thiero, Powell, Clifford, Mcneely, Flemming, Penda, Gonzalez and Will Riley.

Guard like Jase would be pretty sweet. Surprised Clifford is still out there as well.
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Re: Draft Day: Round 1 

Post#264 » by younggunsmn » Thu Jun 26, 2025 2:37 am

MN7725 wrote:
younggunsmn wrote:

there isnt even any elite physical potential there.

.


?

mobility at that height and length is rare

Robert Williams, Holmgren, Bam, Okongwu

those are the only ones off the top of my head in the league currently

and i say this as someone who would have picked five others before JB


Except he doesnt have defensive anchor length and he has an awkward body.
Rudy Gobert was a 7'2 monster at 18 and this kid is going to have an incredible amount of work to do to even be an NBA backup.

Maybe the rawest prospect in the entire draft. Exactly what I didn't want.
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Re: Draft Day: Round 1 

Post#265 » by FrenchMinnyFan » Thu Jun 26, 2025 2:38 am

A bit strange for me. Beringer got potential but may be NBA player in 3 or 4 years from now. ANT will got bored by that time, get 12 kids and switch to play Football :). I would have take a guy ready to play 8-12 min. I do hope i'm wrong and he improve a lot.
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Re: Draft Day: Round 1 

Post#266 » by LibertyPrime » Thu Jun 26, 2025 2:38 am

I keep telling myself Giannis was raw as hell too...
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Re: Draft Day: Round 1 

Post#267 » by Loaf_of_bread » Thu Jun 26, 2025 2:40 am

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younggunsmn wrote:This will be known around these parts in the future as the draft where we took a bust one pick before Walter Clayton Jr.
It sure will be. I'm disgusted with the reach pick on Beringer while passing on Clayton Jr.

This pick was all about drafting for need rather than just taking the BPA. That almost always comes back to haunt you.

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Need? No this pick was beringer turning into a stud beyond his rookie contract 3-4 years from now. Guy probably won't play much at all the next 2 years. Love the pick.
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Re: Draft Day: Round 1 

Post#268 » by wolves_89 » Thu Jun 26, 2025 2:41 am

Trading up from 31 to get Clifford would be a great move.
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Re: Draft Day: Round 1 

Post#269 » by Neeva » Thu Jun 26, 2025 2:42 am

Clayton jr went to Jazz he will suck there. :lol:
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Re: Draft Day: Round 1 

Post#270 » by Neeva » Thu Jun 26, 2025 2:42 am

wolves_89 wrote:Trading up from 31 to get Clifford would be a great move.


Or he could be there for wolves at 31.

I think it will be Clifford, McNeeley or Saraf. Maybe Richardson.
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Re: Draft Day: Round 1 

Post#271 » by younggunsmn » Thu Jun 26, 2025 2:44 am

Utah, SA, OKC all going to get 2 very good players who can play this year.

We got a raw 18 year old frenchman to back up Luka Garza and go with Rudy on weed runs.
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Re: Draft Day: Round 1 

Post#272 » by Neeva » Thu Jun 26, 2025 2:44 am

younggunsmn wrote:Utah, SA, OKC all going to get 2 very good players who can play this year.

We got a raw 18 year old frenchman to back up Luka Garza and go with Rudy on weed runs.


Sorber won’t play much at all . LOL
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Re: Draft Day: Round 1 

Post#273 » by Slim Tubby » Thu Jun 26, 2025 2:45 am

KGdaBom wrote:
Slim Tubby wrote:
younggunsmn wrote:This will be known around these parts in the future as the draft where we took a bust one pick before Walter Clayton Jr.
It sure will be. I'm disgusted with the reach pick on Beringer while passing on Clayton Jr.

This pick was all about drafting for need rather than just taking the BPA. That almost always comes back to haunt you.

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He's 5 years younger than WCJ. Let's see how they both look 5 years from now.
I think the age factor is greatly overblown. We could get two (2) contracts with ten (10) years in a Wolves uniform and WCJ would still only be 32 years old.

It's just my opinion, and I could end up being wrong, but this was a terrible decision and an act of desperation seeking a backup C.

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Re: Draft Day: Round 1 

Post#274 » by moss_is_1 » Thu Jun 26, 2025 2:47 am

younggunsmn wrote:
MN7725 wrote:
younggunsmn wrote:

there isnt even any elite physical potential there.

.


?

mobility at that height and length is rare

Robert Williams, Holmgren, Bam, Okongwu

those are the only ones off the top of my head in the league currently

and i say this as someone who would have picked five others before JB


Except he doesnt have defensive anchor length and he has an awkward body.
Rudy Gobert was a 7'2 monster at 18 and this kid is going to have an incredible amount of work to do to even be an NBA backup.

Maybe the rawest prospect in the entire draft. Exactly what I didn't want.


He absolutely has anchor length. 7'4"5 wingspan and 9'3" standing reach. He just grew another inch from last season too. Similar to Myles Turner, Kelel Ware. Bigger than Jarret Allen, Claxton, Gafford.
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Re: Draft Day: Round 1 

Post#275 » by BlacJacMac » Thu Jun 26, 2025 2:47 am

17. Minnesota Timberwolves

Joan Beringer | 6-11 big | 18 years old | KK Cedevita Olimpija

Vecenie’s ranking: 13


Where you fall on Beringer will ultimately be determined by your willingness to take on a project. It’s going to take time to get Beringer up to speed across the board. He’s still exceptionally raw and learning the game. Things move fast for him right now, and his reactions can often be slow in the way that they tend to be when you’re first learning how to do something. Still, there’s not a big man in this class who moves better than Beringer. He’s exceptionally twitchy when he’s on the floor and when he lifts off the ground to block a shot or dunk. He also is flexible and plays with genuine bend. Not many people this size move like this.

Given that he’s also highly regarded from a character perspective, it’s hard not to buy into him as an NBA player at some point. At the very least, he could turn into a backup center. There is more upside than that, as he could easily turn into a Capela-style big man who runs the floor, defends well and finishes on the interior. The athletic traits are ridiculous to go with his hands. But realistically, every NBA team will feel differently about whether it is willing to take on Beringer as a project. Some do not have interest, and others see him as a starting center of the future if they can get him the right coaching and development.
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Re: Draft Day: Round 1 

Post#276 » by GopherIt! » Thu Jun 26, 2025 2:49 am

FrenchMinnyFan wrote:A bit strange for me. Beringer got potential but may be NBA player in 3 or 4 years from now. ANT will got bored by that time, get 12 kids and switch to play Football :). I would have take a guy ready to play 8-12 min. I do hope i'm wrong and he improve a lot.


Ant's gonna switch to professional pickleball.
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Re: Draft Day: Round 1 

Post#277 » by KGdaBom » Thu Jun 26, 2025 2:49 am

Slim Tubby wrote:
KGdaBom wrote:
Slim Tubby wrote:It sure will be. I'm disgusted with the reach pick on Beringer while passing on Clayton Jr.

This pick was all about drafting for need rather than just taking the BPA. That almost always comes back to haunt you.

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He's 5 years younger than WCJ. Let's see how they both look 5 years from now.
I think the age factor is greatly overblown. We could get two (2) contracts with ten (10) years in a Wolves uniform and WCJ would still only be 32 years old.

It's just my opinion, and I could end up being wrong, but this was a terrible decision and an act of desperation seeking a backup C.

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The thing is WCJ is already about as good as he is going to be. Beringer has a chance to get much better. Risk/Reward.
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Re: Draft Day: Round 1 

Post#278 » by Shaka_Zulu » Thu Jun 26, 2025 2:49 am

younggunsmn wrote:Utah, SA, OKC all going to get 2 very good players who can play this year.

We got a raw 18 year old frenchman to back up Luka Garza and go with Rudy on weed runs.


Garza has no chance having a backup, since he won't see any minutes. He is zero net negative defensively and super stiff athletically.


No matter what a raw prospect he is, I expect Beringer to eventually to become the true backup with his defensive and athletic springy style.
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Re: Draft Day: Round 1 

Post#279 » by BlacJacMac » Thu Jun 26, 2025 2:49 am

winforlose wrote:
fattymcgee wrote:
MN7725 wrote:
nobody who was drafted was going to play on this team, might as well get the best upside


EXACTLY!!!!
Why are people whining that he'll need time to develop?
We already don't have enough minutes for the young guys currently on the roster.


I am getting this third hand (my brother got it off Twitter, and I don’t know his source,) but he is not draft and stash and will be used with the main club. If this is true, then that bodes poorly for Leonard Miller. I have to wonder if at his current skill level he isn’t still better than at least 5 or 10 backup rotational bigs in the NBA. If Rudy plays 30 and JB plays 14 with the other 4 being eaten by Jaden/Randle/Naz, then I am fine with that. This kid seems like Miles Turner without the shot. In 3-4 years when Ant is ready to explode into prime Dynasty mode, this might be the ideal big man running mate. What JB needs more than anything else is to develop his mid range and 3 point jump shot.


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Re: Draft Day: Round 1 

Post#280 » by KGdaBom » Thu Jun 26, 2025 2:51 am

BlacJacMac wrote:17. Minnesota Timberwolves

Joan Beringer | 6-11 big | 18 years old | KK Cedevita Olimpija

Vecenie’s ranking: 13


Where you fall on Beringer will ultimately be determined by your willingness to take on a project. It’s going to take time to get Beringer up to speed across the board. He’s still exceptionally raw and learning the game. Things move fast for him right now, and his reactions can often be slow in the way that they tend to be when you’re first learning how to do something. Still, there’s not a big man in this class who moves better than Beringer. He’s exceptionally twitchy when he’s on the floor and when he lifts off the ground to block a shot or dunk. He also is flexible and plays with genuine bend. Not many people this size move like this.

Given that he’s also highly regarded from a character perspective, it’s hard not to buy into him as an NBA player at some point. At the very least, he could turn into a backup center. There is more upside than that, as he could easily turn into a Capela-style big man who runs the floor, defends well and finishes on the interior. The athletic traits are ridiculous to go with his hands. But realistically, every NBA team will feel differently about whether it is willing to take on Beringer as a project. Some do not have interest, and others see him as a starting center of the future if they can get him the right coaching and development.

Vecenie sure loves him. 13th overall.

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