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shangrila wrote:packforfreedom wrote:Just woke up to immediatly check who we've got and....disappointment as usual. But's that the Minnesota free agent destination.
Honestly, I feel for Rosas. Must have been a hell of a shock coming from Houston.
winforlose wrote:
Stuff like this is toxic to the sport. Actually, it’s toxic to every sport. I really hope he doesn’t get a ring for his troubles.
Foye wrote:winforlose wrote:
Stuff like this is toxic to the sport. Actually, it’s toxic to every sport. I really hope he doesn’t get a ring for his troubles.
Choosing to be part of a winning organization over money aint toxic.
He has made plenty money already, can revive his career in Golden State and get a much better paycheck if he performes well in GS.
Better option than receiving the MLE on a bottom feeder and not being recognized at all on a losing team.
thinktank wrote:I’m enjoying the passengers jumping off the boat before it has set sea.
moonpie wrote:I'm curious to see where Oladipo ends up. Gotta be a prove it type deal right? Or does he go for the security of a full MLE offer if it's on the table?
Dewey wrote:thinktank wrote:I’m enjoying the passengers jumping off the boat before it has set sea.
I mostly agree… Most of the spit swapping is over… A few crazy contracts are out of the way. It always reminds me of being at the grocery store before a snowstorm… people are clearing the shelves and they don’t even know what they’re gonna do with it yet… Then a truck comes in the next day
_AIJ_ wrote:Thibs really crippled this team with the Wiggins max contract
winforlose wrote:Why can he get a much better paycheck? Part of it is bigger market players have more opportunities for supplemental income, the other part is ownership makes more profit from the market and is willing to spend much more money going into the tax. As for success vs money, if you rig the competition by getting the best players cheap and denying the “bottom feeders” the talent needed to improve of you course you will succeed. The era of super teams is all about taking less to win more and it usually ends with success at the expense of competition. How are teams like us supposed to improve if we cannot compete fairly for talent because they can live in a better climate, make more money long term, and get more wins, by playing for the bigger market more established teams with the wealthy owners willing to pay more in tax then we pay in payroll?
shrink wrote:winforlose wrote:Why can he get a much better paycheck? Part of it is bigger market players have more opportunities for supplemental income, the other part is ownership makes more profit from the market and is willing to spend much more money going into the tax. As for success vs money, if you rig the competition by getting the best players cheap and denying the “bottom feeders” the talent needed to improve of you course you will succeed. The era of super teams is all about taking less to win more and it usually ends with success at the expense of competition. How are teams like us supposed to improve if we cannot compete fairly for talent because they can live in a better climate, make more money long term, and get more wins, by playing for the bigger market more established teams with the wealthy owners willing to pay more in tax then we pay in payroll?
Good post. The whole CBA is written under the assumption that we get parity because talent will go to the teams that can pay the most for it. All the rules we take for granted, like a salary cap, lux tax, cap space rules, salary matching for trades, they all are built upon the idea that players will go to the teams that can pay them the most.
m2002brian wrote:Good thing we traded Rubio to free up space to spend on NOBODY.
With the scraps that are left over: Rubio > leftovers.
At this point we might as well just dump Rosas and get a GM who can see the writing is on the wall. Nobody is coming to play with KAT and DLo, get what you can for them and start building around Ant ASAP.
Dewey wrote:m2002brian wrote:Good thing we traded Rubio to free up space to spend on NOBODY.
With the scraps that are left over: Rubio > leftovers.
At this point we might as well just dump Rosas and get a GM who can see the writing is on the wall. Nobody is coming to play with KAT and DLo, get what you can for them and start building around Ant ASAP.
It's easy to swap spit like alot of teams have ... how many of those moves so far will translate to winning? Prolly not many, but it does give a new look for the fan. Most are minor roster tweaks, cap moves, and a few serious overpays. A small few will have a positive impact. There will still be collatoral opportunities from other potential moves via Philly (simmons?), Portland (Lilliard?), Washington (Beal?, Kuzma?), Dallas, Indiana (Turner?), Chicago (Markkanen?), etc... who knows.
Not like Rosas doesn't understand the need for an addition or two, but what have the KAT/DLo duo proven together to warrant a FA to jump onboard? Nothing. Neither is a leader. ANT has inspired the franchise with some hope. Wiggins wasnt the answer - heck he's been on the block since traded to GS. Simply said these 3, specifically, need to prove they can play winning basketball ... Then I can see a PF have intruiged. For now we need to hope we can snag something of PF in a 3-way or sign/trade.
Folklore wrote:Dewey wrote:m2002brian wrote:Good thing we traded Rubio to free up space to spend on NOBODY.
With the scraps that are left over: Rubio > leftovers.
At this point we might as well just dump Rosas and get a GM who can see the writing is on the wall. Nobody is coming to play with KAT and DLo, get what you can for them and start building around Ant ASAP.
It's easy to swap spit like alot of teams have ... how many of those moves so far will translate to winning? Prolly not many, but it does give a new look for the fan. Most are minor roster tweaks, cap moves, and a few serious overpays. A small few will have a positive impact. There will still be collatoral opportunities from other potential moves via Philly (simmons?), Portland (Lilliard?), Washington (Beal?, Kuzma?), Dallas, Indiana (Turner?), Chicago (Markkanen?), etc... who knows.
Not like Rosas doesn't understand the need for an addition or two, but what have the KAT/DLo duo proven together to warrant a FA to jump onboard? Nothing. Neither is a leader. ANT has inspired the franchise with some hope. Wiggins wasnt the answer - heck he's been on the block since traded to GS. Simply said these 3, specifically, need to prove they can play winning basketball ... Then I can see a PF have intruiged. For now we need to hope we can snag something of PF in a 3-way or sign/trade.
Is it really swapping spit? a lot of teams actually got better with the moves they made so far. Or they moved a player to get back value that will either grow with the team, or can be flipped.
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