2022 Vegas Summer League thread

[Klomp]

From the half of summer league watching WMJ today.. looks like just an average basketballer..
Looks like a master of none. Not bad just doesn't add anything unique..

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If I may make a comparison, a lot of people would probably say that Kyle Anderson is a "master of none." But sometimes not having a major weakness can be a strength in itself.

[Rookie-Mistake]

Who knows.. I've watched plenty of players dominate in SL that have turned out to be horrible basketball players in the NBA.

I hope he pans out but I just don't see anything from an eye test. I feel more confident in Minott from an eye test. I hear Vando comparisons but I see more Jaden McDaniels..

From the half of summer league watching WMJ today.. looks like just an average basketballer..
Looks like a master of none. Not bad just doesn't add anything unique..

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I hate to agree, but I do agree. He just hasn't so far shown much. However, it's very early. He's just working through things.

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[SO_MONEY]

We have to 14 by the time the season starts. We will find guys who are more NBA ready than him. Moore should be developed as a SG/SF not a PG/SG.

At this point I think he is a PF, sadly.

Not strong enough or heavy enough for PF.

Can't dribble well enough to play SG or SF.

[winforlose]

At this point I think he is a PF, sadly.

Not strong enough or heavy enough for PF.

Can't dribble well enough to play SG or SF.

I agree his handle is a big problem, but I don’t think it is unreasonable for his handle to improve to SF level. If we can adjust to the NBA 3 a poor man’s Taurean Prince doesn’t seem that crazy. Though his speed is an issue.

[Rookie-Mistake]

I did hear Tim Connoly wanting to 'get on base' in reference to the draft.

This might be a safe draft pick that doesn't torpedo the pick used, doesn't distrupt team culture/cohesion and allows him to be used as a bench player on the cheap and utilised ad hoc.

I hope he pans out and will be watching intently.

From the half of summer league watching WMJ today.. looks like just an average basketballer..
Looks like a master of none. Not bad just doesn't add anything unique..

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If I may make a comparison, a lot of people would probably say that Kyle Anderson is a "master of none." But sometimes not having a major weakness can be a strength in itself.

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[Mattya]

Not strong enough or heavy enough for PF.

Can't dribble well enough to play SG or SF.

I agree his handle is a big problem, but I don’t think it is unreasonable for his handle to improve to SF level. If we can adjust to the NBA 3 a poor man’s Taurean Prince doesn’t seem that crazy. Though his speed is an issue.

He isn’t that bad, but he definitely isn’t going to create his own shot. He is in the Danny Green mold. He is a spot up shooter who can maybe slash when there are rotations. Everyone always looks worse in summer league when you don’t have anyone who can create their own shot.

[SO_MONEY]

Not strong enough or heavy enough for PF.

Can't dribble well enough to play SG or SF.

I agree his handle is a big problem, but I don’t think it is unreasonable for his handle to improve to SF level. If we can adjust to the NBA 3 a poor man’s Taurean Prince doesn’t seem that crazy. Though his speed is an issue.

Not holding my breath. With three years of college and a handle weaker than a guy at the Y...it doesn't look good.

[winforlose]

Can't dribble well enough to play SG or SF.

I agree his handle is a big problem, but I don’t think it is unreasonable for his handle to improve to SF level. If we can adjust to the NBA 3 a poor man’s Taurean Prince doesn’t seem that crazy. Though his speed is an issue.

He isn’t that bad, but he definitely isn’t going to create his own shot. He is in the Danny Green mold. He is a spot up shooter who can maybe slash when there are rotations. Everyone always looks worse in summer league when you don’t have anyone who can create their own shot.

This, plus there are adjustments from college to the NBA that take time. 3 point distance, pace, ect… that take some guys more time than others. From what I have seen his ceiling is probably a backup 3 and D and his floor is probably Jarrett Culver.

[winforlose]

Who knows.. I've watched plenty of players dominate in SL that have turned out to be horrible basketball players in the NBA.

I hope he pans out but I just don't see anything from an eye test. I feel more confident in Minott from an eye test. I hear Vando comparisons but I see more Jaden McDaniels..

From the half of summer league watching WMJ today.. looks like just an average basketballer..
Looks like a master of none. Not bad just doesn't add anything unique..

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I hate to agree, but I do agree. He just hasn't so far shown much. However, it's very early. He's just working through things.

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Could be true. IMO it is way to early to tell. He has the speed, athleticism, high energy/endurance, and the length to be either. Most of his biggest flaws aren’t actual flaws, but rather things he needs to learn to do correctly. His ceiling seems much higher than WMJ and his floor is probably no worse than what we are seeing right now. I think he is unplayable in the NBA this year, but going into next season we are going to be eager to see what he does and by year 3 he might be the steal of the draft class. That said, having potential and realizing it is not the same thing. JO with a 3 is a dangerous player, JO without a 3 is a deep bench minimum contract. It all depends on him and how well he can learn.

[Mattya]

I agree his handle is a big problem, but I don’t think it is unreasonable for his handle to improve to SF level. If we can adjust to the NBA 3 a poor man’s Taurean Prince doesn’t seem that crazy. Though his speed is an issue.

He isn’t that bad, but he definitely isn’t going to create his own shot. He is in the Danny Green mold. He is a spot up shooter who can maybe slash when there are rotations. Everyone always looks worse in summer league when you don’t have anyone who can create their own shot.

This, plus there are adjustments from college to the NBA that take time. 3 point distance, pace, ect… that take some guys more time than others. From what I have seen his ceiling is probably a backup 3 and D and his floor is probably Jarrett Culver.

Plus when you don’t have that guy, you are now putting a bunch of players who have never played together on the floor running hand offs and pick and rolls. This team has missed so many cuts and is so sloppy just setting up plays. We saw another missed pass between Minott and Moore today because they have played so little together.

[winforlose]

He isn’t that bad, but he definitely isn’t going to create his own shot. He is in the Danny Green mold. He is a spot up shooter who can maybe slash when there are rotations. Everyone always looks worse in summer league when you don’t have anyone who can create their own shot.

This, plus there are adjustments from college to the NBA that take time. 3 point distance, pace, ect… that take some guys more time than others. From what I have seen his ceiling is probably a backup 3 and D and his floor is probably Jarrett Culver.

Plus when you don’t have that guy, you are now putting a bunch of players who have never played together on the floor running hand offs and pick and rolls. This team has missed so many cuts and is so sloppy just setting up plays. We saw another missed pass between Minott and Moore today because they have played so little together.

100%. It is not like you can run complex schemes with 4 days of practice and guys you never played with. This is after months of being out of competitive basketball. I always use these games as a chance to study the players mechanics.

[Nick K]

Absolutely love his upside, but Minott needs a ton of work.

He's getting by on sheer athleticism and drive right now. That won't be enough in the NBA. I imagine he'll spend the whole year in Iowa. WMJ too.

He easily has the tools to figure it out.

[Nick K]

From the half of summer league watching WMJ today.. looks like just an average basketballer..
Looks like a master of none. Not bad just doesn't add anything unique..

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If I may make a comparison, a lot of people would probably say that Kyle Anderson is a "master of none." But sometimes not having a major weakness can be a strength in itself.

Speaking of Kyle, he's the kind of guy you love having on your team.

WMJ looks like super solid "Jack of all trades". He doesn't impress with athleticism but you don't have to. He's be just fine. Athletically he reminds me a little of Kyle Anderson. Slomo! I love it.

Obviously he needs to make a few more shots.

[winforlose]

From the half of summer league watching WMJ today.. looks like just an average basketballer..
Looks like a master of none. Not bad just doesn't add anything unique..

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If I may make a comparison, a lot of people would probably say that Kyle Anderson is a "master of none." But sometimes not having a major weakness can be a strength in itself.

Speaking of Kyle, he's the kind of guy you love having on your team.

WMJ looks like super solid "Jack of all trades". He doesn't impress with athleticism but you don't have to. He's be just fine. Athletically he reminds me a little of Kyle Anderson. Slomo! I love it.

Obviously he needs to make a few more shots.

Difference being KA is 4 inches taller, has a heavier frame, and ironically seems to be faster.

[TimberKat]

I haven't watch any of the Vegas games. Looking at the stats, I am wondering if Kevon Harris has a shot of making the team. He scored some points, been in the G league for a couple years, and is a 6-6 pg that can guard multiple positions.

[winforlose]

I haven't watch any of the Vegas games. Looking at the stats, I am wondering if Kevon Harris has a shot of making the team. He scored some points, been in the G league for a couple years, and is a 6-6 pg that can guard multiple positions.

Kevon Harris spent 2 years in the G. Rather than listing them one by one I will link to his stats. His numbers would be decent if they were in the NBA but because they come over 30 minutes per night in the G league, they are average to below average. While it is possible he succeeds with us, I would not bet a limited spot on him.

https://stats.gleague.nba.com/player/1630284/

[minimus]

I wonder if Rajon Tucker is good enough to be PoA defender in this league.

[old school 34]

Can't dribble well enough to play SG or SF.

I agree his handle is a big problem, but I don’t think it is unreasonable for his handle to improve to SF level. If we can adjust to the NBA 3 a poor man’s Taurean Prince doesn’t seem that crazy. Though his speed is an issue.

He isn’t that bad, but he definitely isn’t going to create his own shot. He is in the Danny Green mold. He is a spot up shooter who can maybe slash when there are rotations. Everyone always looks worse in summer league when you don’t have anyone who can create their own shot.

Both these guys are pretty good comps at slightly different levels depending on how he develops. Both guys took a bit to grow into the league & very dependent on having stars around them...but if anyone was thinking or hoping for more...that really isn't what he's ever shown &/or ever been advertised as? And that type of role player is never going to look as good in a SL team setting.

If he can maybe take over TP's spot in the rotation by the end of TP's time...that's a win.

Minott was always the more home run swing type of pick.

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[SO_MONEY]

Can't dribble well enough to play SG or SF.

I agree his handle is a big problem, but I don’t think it is unreasonable for his handle to improve to SF level. If we can adjust to the NBA 3 a poor man’s Taurean Prince doesn’t seem that crazy. Though his speed is an issue.

He isn’t that bad, but he definitely isn’t going to create his own shot. He is in the Danny Green mold. He is a spot up shooter who can maybe slash when there are rotations. Everyone always looks worse in summer league when you don’t have anyone who can create their own shot.

He is that bad (at dribbling). He can't slash as is. It is probably why he didn't do it in college and why he was a poor finisher. Right now he looks like Xavier Henry at best.

[Klomp]

I haven't watch any of the Vegas games. Looking at the stats, I am wondering if Kevon Harris has a shot of making the team. He scored some points, been in the G league for a couple years, and is a 6-6 pg that can guard multiple positions.

Kevon Harris spent 2 years in the G. Rather than listing them one by one I will link to his stats. His numbers would be decent if they were in the NBA but because they come over 30 minutes per night in the G league, they are average to below average. While it is possible he succeeds with us, I would not bet a limited spot on him.

https://stats.gleague.nba.com/player/1630284/

I feel like this is an odd comment. Counting stats shouldn't really matter in the G League, just like they shouldn't really matter in the summer league.

We aren't looking for a 30 ppg scorer to round out the bench. We're looking for solid players who play the right way. If they think Harris could be that guy, then they should go for it.