Around the NBA (Part Two)

[Note30]

I would not sleep on Memphis next year if they get healthy.
They were a top 2 seed the previous years they were healthy, and they added Edey who could make them even more dangerous.

They are quite a bit different from those teams.

Dillon Brooks, DeAnthony Melton, Steven Adams, Brandon Clarke, Kyle Anderson, Tyus Jones all had significant impacts on those teams. They have some talented young guys, but are quite unproven.

Dillion Brooks and Smart are a wash with an edge going to Smart, Clarke is still on the team. Anderson wasn't on the team the year before last either. Adams and Jones are gone but they picked up Kennard. They have quite a bit of depth in those other guys and the starters are pretty strong and haven't changed.

Hardly unproven from a core perspective.

They

[Note30]

The best team doesn't always win. It's possible Denver was a better team than us. Their are things called off games and flukes. Note can't comprehend the concept.

You don't have 4 off games or 4 flukes almost in a row. If your understanding of basketball comes down to it was a fluke or luck it means you don't value what goes into each win. It's insulting.

I'm going with Fluke in that series rather than off games. I think we were very worn down after the intense Denver series so we did have off games, but Dallas winning was more in the fluke category. They played us at just the right time and got some magic in the last minute of the first two games. Might happen again once if we played 10 series with them. I believe we have improved way more than they have so this coming year they don't concern me in the slightest. I don't mind insulting Dallas. You go ahead and be concerned about them. Even cheer for them since you admire them so much.

You're a fool.

[KGdaBom]

You don't have 4 off games or 4 flukes almost in a row. If your understanding of basketball comes down to it was a fluke or luck it means you don't value what goes into each win. It's insulting.

I'm going with Fluke in that series rather than off games. I think we were very worn down after the intense Denver series so we did have off games, but Dallas winning was more in the fluke category. They played us at just the right time and got some magic in the last minute of the first two games. Might happen again once if we played 10 series with them. I believe we have improved way more than they have so this coming year they don't concern me in the slightest. I don't mind insulting Dallas. You go ahead and be concerned about them. Even cheer for them since you admire them so much.

You're a fool.

Because I don't think like you. Coming from you I take that as a compliment.
The more I think about this I'm getting pissed off. Isn't name calling like that against the user's agreement.
What gives you the right to call me or anybody else a fool just because we think different than you?

[cmoss84]

I would not sleep on Memphis next year if they get healthy.
They were a top 2 seed the previous years they were healthy, and they added Edey who could make them even more dangerous.

I'm trying to wrap my brain around this (nothing against post). I asked around the board if Edey was worth getting at 27 if he fell...right before the draft.
It was either crickets or "no" in response.

[KGdaBom]

I would not sleep on Memphis next year if they get healthy.
They were a top 2 seed the previous years they were healthy, and they added Edey who could make them even more dangerous.

I'm trying to wrap my brain around this (nothing against post). I asked around the board if Edey was worth getting at 27 if he fell...right before the draft.
It was either crickets or "no" in response.

Edey was incredible in college. A lot of people don't think his game will transfer to the NBA.

[Note30]

I would not sleep on Memphis next year if they get healthy.
They were a top 2 seed the previous years they were healthy, and they added Edey who could make them even more dangerous.

I'm trying to wrap my brain around this (nothing against post). I asked around the board if Edey was worth getting at 27 if he fell...right before the draft.
It was either crickets or "no" in response.

Fit for us didn't make sense.

[TimberKat]

The best team doesn't always win. It's possible Denver was a better team than us. Their are things called off games and flukes. Note can't comprehend the concept.

You don't have 4 off games or 4 flukes almost in a row. If your understanding of basketball comes down to it was a fluke or luck it means you don't value what goes into each win. It's insulting.

I'm going with Fluke in that series rather than off games. I think we were very worn down after the intense Denver series so we did have off games, but Dallas winning was more in the fluke category. They played us at just the right time and got some magic in the last minute of the first two games. Might happen again once if we played 10 series with them. I believe we have improved way more than they have so this coming year they don't concern me in the slightest. I don't mind insulting Dallas. You go ahead and be concerned about them. Even cheer for them since you admire them so much.

Dallas is a very good team. An the same time, we were extremely close to winning the first two games in the series. Yes, we lost 4-1 but could had easily been 4-3 or Wolves win 4-3. Since Dallas did play extremely well after their mid season trade. I will put OKC, DAL, DEN, and MIN in the same elite grouping.
Second: SAC, MEM, NOP, PHX the "Prove it to me" group
Third: GSW, LAL, LAC the "over the hill' group
Forth: SAS, HOU the "still not enough for the West" group
Fifth: UTA, POR the "don't bother the start the season" group

It's going to be another tough season next year

[Note30]

You don't have 4 off games or 4 flukes almost in a row. If your understanding of basketball comes down to it was a fluke or luck it means you don't value what goes into each win. It's insulting.

I'm going with Fluke in that series rather than off games. I think we were very worn down after the intense Denver series so we did have off games, but Dallas winning was more in the fluke category. They played us at just the right time and got some magic in the last minute of the first two games. Might happen again once if we played 10 series with them. I believe we have improved way more than they have so this coming year they don't concern me in the slightest. I don't mind insulting Dallas. You go ahead and be concerned about them. Even cheer for them since you admire them so much.

Dallas is a very good team. An the same time, we were extremely close to winning the first two games in the series. Yes, we lost 4-1 but could had easily been 4-3 or Wolves win 4-3. Since Dallas did play extremely well after their mid season trade. I will put OKC, DAL, DEN, and MIN in the same elite grouping.
Second: SAC, MEM, NOP, PHX the "Prove it to me" group
Third: GSW, LAL, LAC the "over the hill' group
Forth: SAS, HOU the "still not enough for the West" group
Fifth: UTA, POR the "don't bother the start the season" group

It's going to be another tough season next year

I'd put PHX in over the hill as well. They are totally ****.

[TimberKat]

I would not sleep on Memphis next year if they get healthy.
They were a top 2 seed the previous years they were healthy, and they added Edey who could make them even more dangerous.

I'm trying to wrap my brain around this (nothing against post). I asked around the board if Edey was worth getting at 27 if he fell...right before the draft.
It was either crickets or "no" in response.

Edey was incredible in college. A lot of people don't think his game will transfer to the NBA.

Maybe I am one of the few that thinks his game will translate fine and should be drafted a lot higher than late first, somewhere 5 to 10. If we didn't have Gobert or Kessler, I would pick him at 8. He is relatively agile and raw because he switched from baseball to basketball in high school. I think he is definitely a starting center in NBA somewhere between Capela and Gobert.

[KGdaBom]

I'm trying to wrap my brain around this (nothing against post). I asked around the board if Edey was worth getting at 27 if he fell...right before the draft.
It was either crickets or "no" in response.

Edey was incredible in college. A lot of people don't think his game will transfer to the NBA.

Maybe I am one of the few that thinks his game will translate fine and should be drafted a lot higher than late first, somewhere 5 to 10. If we didn't have Gobert or Kessler, I would pick him at 8. He is relatively agile and raw because he switched from baseball to basketball in high school. I think he is definitely a starting center in NBA somewhere between Capela and Gobert.

I've never watched him play so I'll take your word for it. IIRC he was drafted 9th.

[younggunsmn]

I would not sleep on Memphis next year if they get healthy.
They were a top 2 seed the previous years they were healthy, and they added Edey who could make them even more dangerous.

I'm trying to wrap my brain around this (nothing against post). I asked around the board if Edey was worth getting at 27 if he fell...right before the draft.
It was either crickets or "no" in response.

Fit for us didn't make sense.

I would have run screaming to the podium had Edey fallen to 27.
Immediate Gobert heir apparent and maybe even makes him expendable with a good season.
Dillingham raises our immediate ceiling a helluva lot more at 8 though.

Memphis is the perfect team for Edey with so many good defenders already with Smart, Bane, and former DPOY Jackson.
If you think we are hard to score on inside with Towns and Gobert, wait until you see Memphis with Edey defending the rim and JJJ flying in from the weak side.

But it's Edey's developed interior offensive game at 7'5 that could make him special.
We saw Westbrook make Steven Adams into a dangerous player for years.
Morant is the same style of player as prime Westbrook, and Edey is a good deal more talented than Steven Adams and Brandon Clarke.
If nothing else, he will be absolute crushing dudes with giant screens while he's out there.

[Colbinii]

You don't have 4 off games or 4 flukes almost in a row. If your understanding of basketball comes down to it was a fluke or luck it means you don't value what goes into each win. It's insulting.

I'm going with Fluke in that series rather than off games. I think we were very worn down after the intense Denver series so we did have off games, but Dallas winning was more in the fluke category. They played us at just the right time and got some magic in the last minute of the first two games. Might happen again once if we played 10 series with them. I believe we have improved way more than they have so this coming year they don't concern me in the slightest. I don't mind insulting Dallas. You go ahead and be concerned about them. Even cheer for them since you admire them so much.

Dallas is a very good team. An the same time, we were extremely close to winning the first two games in the series. Yes, we lost 4-1 but could had easily been 4-3 or Wolves win 4-3. Since Dallas did play extremely well after their mid season trade. I will put OKC, DAL, DEN, and MIN in the same elite grouping.
Second: SAC, MEM, NOP, PHX the "Prove it to me" group
Third: GSW, LAL, LAC the "over the hill' group
Forth: SAS, HOU the "still not enough for the West" group
Fifth: UTA, POR the "don't bother the start the season" group

It's going to be another tough season next year

I get the idea of the groupings but what makes the Clippers better than Houston?

Other than this, yeah, makes sense. I'd have Memphis in the Top Tier personally.

New Orleans is probably in the Top Tier for the Regular Season. Remember they have been one of the best teams in the NBA over the past 2 seasons when healthy and just added Dejounte Murray without losing anyone meaningful.

Sacramento upgraded Harrison Barnes to DeMar DeRozan

Phoenix added Monte Morris and when healthy had an incredible record last year

Dallas is basically the same post-trade team, though healthy Luka and Kyrie isn't likely for another year

[winforlose]

https://hoopshype.com/2024/07/09/jazz-rejected-two-first-rounders-for-walker-kessler/

[frankenwolf]

Seriously for a minute we can't design our team to have perfect matchups against all the other teams. We will have trouble with DDR, but they'll have more trouble with us.

I believe it was Wooden that said "Don't worry about them. Let them worry about you"

[KGdaBom]

Seriously for a minute we can't design our team to have perfect matchups against all the other teams. We will have trouble with DDR, but they'll have more trouble with us.

I believe it was Wooden that said "Don't worry about them. Let them worry about you"

Yep. I hate the thinking we have to match up against everything they do. Let's make them match up against everything we do.

[thinktank]

I'm going with Fluke in that series rather than off games. I think we were very worn down after the intense Denver series so we did have off games, but Dallas winning was more in the fluke category. They played us at just the right time and got some magic in the last minute of the first two games. Might happen again once if we played 10 series with them. I believe we have improved way more than they have so this coming year they don't concern me in the slightest. I don't mind insulting Dallas. You go ahead and be concerned about them. Even cheer for them since you admire them so much.

You're a fool.

Because I don't think like you. Coming from you I take that as a compliment.
The more I think about this I'm getting pissed off. Isn't name calling like that against the user's agreement.
What gives you the right to call me or anybody else a fool just because we think different than you?

You’re right, KG.

Just because the series went the way it did this time doesn’t mean it would go that way every time, or even most times.

Dallas beat us fair and square, but there’s a lot of contextual things that impacted the series.

[minimus]

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PHO go all in

[minimus]

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Interestingly the new CBA rules should give benefits to poor in terms of talent teams, but somehow is limiting average guys such as Tyus

[Klomp]

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PHO go all in

So what's the list of $8M players who they could trade him for?

[winforlose]

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PHO go all in

So what's the list of $8M players who they could trade him for?

Could be they want JO or it could be they want to add salary for a later move. They could trade him into space for a TPE, they could trade him for a single player, or multiple players whose contract equal his. If they plan to move him, the question is will another team value him at 8 mil?