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June 26-27, 2024 - Draft Days Thread (second round starts 3 pm)

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Re: June 26, 2024 - Draft Day Thread 

Post#281 » by BlacJacMac » Thu Jun 27, 2024 3:47 pm

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KGdaBom wrote:Then Dillingham is not on our roster.


You think there is a chance he doesn’t make the team?

He will be on our roster, but isn't at this time. Just pointing it out. W4L said currently on our roster.


That's just being pedantic. If you're trying to figure out what our roster will be, of course you include the guy we just took with the 8th pick. Its being inaccurate for the sake of accuracy...

It would be irresponsible to not include him.
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Re: June 26, 2024 - Draft Day Thread 

Post#282 » by KGdaBom » Thu Jun 27, 2024 3:53 pm

BlacJacMac wrote:
KGdaBom wrote:
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You think there is a chance he doesn’t make the team?

He will be on our roster, but isn't at this time. Just pointing it out. W4L said currently on our roster.


That's just being pedantic. If you're trying to figure out what our roster will be, of course you include the guy we just took with the 8th pick. Its being inaccurate for the sake of accuracy...

It would be irresponsible to not include him.

Spock once said the only logical choice is to be illogical. :D
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Re: June 26, 2024 - Draft Day Thread 

Post#283 » by DaMplsKid » Thu Jun 27, 2024 4:21 pm

Looking at our roster right now. I think we need to add a big ( Forward, Center). Also, not sure we want another young guy on the roster so could see us taking a European Stash type of pick too.

Bobi Klintman might have the most upside and fits both scenarios above.

Adem Bona really like what he could bring to our big rotation.

Jonathan Mogho could be a Kyle Anderson but faster and explosive. The level of comp is a issue.

Ulrich Chomche a lot like Bona just taller and not as muscular. But you have the option to leave him over seas to develop.
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Re: June 26, 2024 - Draft Day Thread 

Post#284 » by Nick K » Thu Jun 27, 2024 4:32 pm

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younggunsmn wrote:Is it just me or do half of these kids look about 15?

The older I get the younger they look.


:lol: Amen to that!!
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Re: June 26, 2024 - Draft Day Thread 

Post#285 » by Nick K » Thu Jun 27, 2024 4:37 pm

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Neeva wrote:I think we get two of the best players in first round tbh. I hate that they are bringing up Shannon’s legal
Issues since he was found innocent.

Right or wrong a sexual assault charge will always be brought up.


I would tend to agree but it would be wholly unfair to this young guy. I checked into his situation and he wasn't even there when the crime happened. He took the stand in his own defense and the jury acquitted him. I hope this kid get a new clean fair start.

What a nightmare that had to be to go through.
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Re: June 26, 2024 - Draft Day Thread 

Post#286 » by Nick K » Thu Jun 27, 2024 4:39 pm

KGdaBom wrote:
Klomp wrote:
MN7725 wrote:From Sam Vecenie

Since 2008, there have only been 11 seniors selected with an assist rate (AST/TO) of 1.2 or worse, per Bart Torvik’s database: Buddy Hield, Jimmer Fredette, Chris Duarte, Ochai Agbaji, Matisse Thybulle, Marshon Brooks, Quincy Pondexter, Lazar Hayward, Davon Reed, Carrick Felix and Orlando Johnson. Hield and Thybulle are the only two hits in that group.

Terrence Shannon Jr AST/TO: 1.14

This definitely isn't a Vecenie draft for us

Dillingham 15
Shannon 39

I don't give a rat's ass about where Vecenie ranked them.


I don't give a 2nd rat's ass either! :)
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Re: June 26, 2024 - Draft Day Thread 

Post#287 » by Nick K » Thu Jun 27, 2024 4:43 pm

KGdaBom wrote:
KATKlownFeet wrote:
TimberKat wrote:For those that complained the Gobert trade had drained all our picks, we just had two 1st round picks in one year. It's too bad we couldn't package both those picks for something even bigger (maybe that is coming later in the summer).


We have traded away 4 future FRPs and two swaps, so we have mortgaged our future to try and win now. So go big or flame out.

Isn't Dillingham all about our future.


Kgdabom, you're going to love this guy! He is an offensive wizard. He reminds me of Allan Iverson in size and play. He's 6'1" 165 so he's slight. That is the knock on him. Because of his size defense is a concern according to the critics. Some people had him as high as #5.

Yes, we got our PG of the future!! Unbelievable!
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Re: June 26, 2024 - Draft Day Thread 

Post#288 » by Nick K » Thu Jun 27, 2024 4:45 pm

KGdaBom wrote:
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MN7725 wrote:
yeah, Sam's my guy, he puts in a ton of work

but for what the Wolves need at this point, for next few seasons, can't really argue with the picks, I doubt even Sam will


I like Sam too but here really are no experts. You never read about how often these guys are wrong. I'll take my chances with Tim Connelly.

I love both our picks tonight. Both of these guys are NBA ready. I love Shannon's ability to will the ball into the net. He's a powerhouse driver. Super athletic with size!

This is a home run draft. We got our PG of the future. Who could have imagined that going in tonight.

If there was a draft of best draft day posts this would be my first overall selection.


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Re: June 26, 2024 - Draft Day Thread 

Post#289 » by Nick K » Thu Jun 27, 2024 4:52 pm

shrink wrote:
Nick K wrote:Some more on Shannon.... from The Ringer.

"From The Ringer.

"Shades Of Tyreke Evans.

For those that don’t recall, Tyreke Evan’s was the 2009-10 Rookie of the Year, over Steph Curry.

I like Tim Connelly’s drafting style. If this was investing, this pick and last year’s Leonard Miller and Jaylen Clark were all value investing, buying a stock much cheaper because other factors had pushed its price down below what it should be expected to return. It can be a little riskier, if those issues end up affecting the future return, but any time you can get a potentially good piece at a discount price, you give yourself the chance to profit.

Many have said that the best player from this draft could come from outside the lottery, and that player could be Shannon.


Good post! I love the way Shannon will get to the basket and to the line. We need that. Just think when they double Ant they can get the ball to Kat or Shannon and they will have room to drive. Shannon can defend too. He has size like and athleticism like ANT! He is a power house getting to the rim. He has a decent mid-range game too. I love this pick.
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Re: June 26-27, 2024 - Draft Days Thread 

Post#290 » by Klomp » Thu Jun 27, 2024 5:30 pm

Read on Twitter


This has Bronny written all over it if the interest is genuine, given some of the steam we've heard previously. Justin Edwards is another intriguing "former top prospect" option.
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Re: June 26-27, 2024 - Draft Days Thread 

Post#291 » by Klomp » Thu Jun 27, 2024 5:32 pm

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Re: June 26-27, 2024 - Draft Days Thread 

Post#292 » by younggunsmn » Thu Jun 27, 2024 5:36 pm

Klomp wrote:
Read on Twitter


This has Bronny written all over it if the interest is genuine, given some of the steam we've heard previously. Justin Edwards is another intriguing "former top prospect" option.


PLEASE NO!
The kid can't play and has no business being drafted other than who his dad is.
Last thing this team needs is the LeBron circus distracting from what should be a whole lot of winning.

IMHO TC just asked for a workout to do a solid for LeBron's agent, and dipped his toe in the water on the 1% chance LeBron wanted to play here and the answer was a resounding no.
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Re: June 26-27, 2024 - Draft Days Thread 

Post#293 » by younggunsmn » Thu Jun 27, 2024 5:42 pm

Well the trade down from 37 to 53 is disappointing, but not unexpected with the need to dump Moore.
We should be able to get a guy at 53 with a much better shot at contributing than Moore, or draft and stash a Euro and fill that roster spot with a veterans minimum.

Be curious to see if we cut Minott too and replace him with a rookie minimum to save a bit of money.

It's disappointing because we might be giving up a chance at drafting an eventual rotation piece at 37, but that's not a sure thing either, Hopefully there will be a quality prospect left at 53.

Maybe TC has his eye on someone off the radar a bit at 53.
It's good to see he wasn't afraid to cut bait on his mistake, just unfortunate he didn't do it 9 months ago when it wouldn't have cost us anything.
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Re: June 26-27, 2024 - Draft Days Thread 

Post#294 » by thinktank » Thu Jun 27, 2024 5:45 pm

You have to think there's an FA we can sign for the minimum that's better than Moore.

I find it exciting to be all in now.

Connelly wringing the roster and wrenching the market for value.
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Re: June 26-27, 2024 - Draft Days Thread 

Post#295 » by Neeva » Thu Jun 27, 2024 5:48 pm

That’s the problem when you have a close team(that’s like family). The guy in charge doesn’t use his it’s just business head or he’s just Stubborn. Now it looks like he did Moore a solid by sending him to a team with less talent at guard and with a Duke guy in charge.
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Re: June 26-27, 2024 - Draft Days Thread 

Post#296 » by Worm Guts » Thu Jun 27, 2024 5:51 pm

younggunsmn wrote:
Klomp wrote:
Read on Twitter


This has Bronny written all over it if the interest is genuine, given some of the steam we've heard previously. Justin Edwards is another intriguing "former top prospect" option.


PLEASE NO!
The kid can't play and has no business being drafted other than who his dad is.
Last thing this team needs is the LeBron circus distracting from what should be a whole lot of winning.

IMHO TC just asked for a workout to do a solid for LeBron's agent, and dipped his toe in the water on the 1% chance LeBron wanted to play here and the answer was a resounding no.


The only reason we would draft Bronny is to lure his dad here or to leverage the Lakers for trade. If one of those options is on the table, I'm down with it, otherwise I can't imagine it happening.
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Re: June 26-27, 2024 - Draft Days Thread 

Post#297 » by younggunsmn » Thu Jun 27, 2024 5:58 pm

Worm Guts wrote:
younggunsmn wrote:
Klomp wrote:
Read on Twitter


This has Bronny written all over it if the interest is genuine, given some of the steam we've heard previously. Justin Edwards is another intriguing "former top prospect" option.


PLEASE NO!
The kid can't play and has no business being drafted other than who his dad is.
Last thing this team needs is the LeBron circus distracting from what should be a whole lot of winning.

IMHO TC just asked for a workout to do a solid for LeBron's agent, and dipped his toe in the water on the 1% chance LeBron wanted to play here and the answer was a resounding no.


The only reason we would draft Bronny is to lure his dad here or to leverage the Lakers for trade. If one of those options is on the table, I'm down with it, otherwise I can't imagine it happening.


Holding Bronny hostage and pissing off one of the most powerful agents in the league is not a road you want to go down, for what, a 2nd round pick or two?
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Re: June 26-27, 2024 - Draft Days Thread 

Post#298 » by Klomp » Thu Jun 27, 2024 5:59 pm

Worm Guts wrote:The only reason we would draft Bronny is to lure his dad here or to leverage the Lakers for trade. If one of those options is on the table, I'm down with it, otherwise I can't imagine it happening.

I disagree. If they draft him, I think they believe in him.

"It's been about investment...finding a team willing to invest in him." That's the reporting from Shams about what Bronny and Klutch are looking for. Investment, development....thats always been Tim Connelly's music! And keep in mind....Tim just traded way up to draft a Klutch client in Rob Dillingham. I'm guessing Klutch doesn't have an issue with their clients going to Minnesota.
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Re: June 26-27, 2024 - Draft Days Thread 

Post#299 » by Worm Guts » Thu Jun 27, 2024 6:01 pm

younggunsmn wrote:
Worm Guts wrote:
younggunsmn wrote:
PLEASE NO!
The kid can't play and has no business being drafted other than who his dad is.
Last thing this team needs is the LeBron circus distracting from what should be a whole lot of winning.

IMHO TC just asked for a workout to do a solid for LeBron's agent, and dipped his toe in the water on the 1% chance LeBron wanted to play here and the answer was a resounding no.


The only reason we would draft Bronny is to lure his dad here or to leverage the Lakers for trade. If one of those options is on the table, I'm down with it, otherwise I can't imagine it happening.


Holding Bronny hostage and pissing off one of the most powerful agents in the league is not a road you want to go down, for what, a 2nd round pick or two?


"Holding Bronny hostage" is strong language. I'm sure Connelly has a better feel for how that would play out than any of us do, so I'll leave that to his discretion.
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Re: June 26-27, 2024 - Draft Days Thread 

Post#300 » by younggunsmn » Thu Jun 27, 2024 6:03 pm

Klomp wrote:
Worm Guts wrote:The only reason we would draft Bronny is to lure his dad here or to leverage the Lakers for trade. If one of those options is on the table, I'm down with it, otherwise I can't imagine it happening.

I disagree. If they draft him, I think they believe in him.

"It's been about investment...finding a team willing to invest in him." That's the reporting from Shams about what Bronny and Klutch are looking for. Investment, development....thats always been Tim Connelly's music! And keep in mind....Tim just traded way up to draft a Klutch client in Rob Dillingham. I'm guessing Klutch doesn't have an issue with their clients going to Minnesota.


Bronny makes Wendell Moore Jr look like a lottery pick in comparison.
He's going to the Lakers either with 55 or as an UDFA.

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