Ban Howard Mass: The new draft thread

[Klomp]

I know it is the LSU thing, but does he remind anyone of a less athletic TT?

I was actually thinking a better talented.....



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[NO-KG-AI]

I know it is the LSU thing, but does he remind anyone of a less athletic TT?

Less athletic, but definitely taller and longer, and more skilled to be sure.

[the_bruce]

meh say what you want about him. I've only seen him a few times, but I was quite impressed.

I think the dxpress weakness/strengths are generally spot on and they are for this kid too.

Weaknesses:
Weight room\training!

[the_bruce]

I know it is the LSU thing, but does he remind anyone of a less athletic TT?

I was thinking LMA that can rebound, block, and handle the ball better? Offensively they differ, but meh that's what I think when I see him in terms of size/athleticism.

[the_bruce]

grr wtf double post

[revprodeji]

quoting yourself does not make your point any better.

How would this kid fit? What draft range do you see? Inconsistant motor worries me, and he might be skinnier than Brewer.

His weaknesses concern me. I do not see him as a better prospect or pro player fit then Beasley/rose/mayo/lopez/Gallinari/Hibbert/Greene.

If anything I would rather have Batum then Randolph. Randolph and Jordan both need to return to school.

[jpatrick]

I think you underestimate Randolph. His game reminds me alot of Bosh when Bosh was at Ga Tech although Bosh had a much better feel for the game; however, I think Randolph might be a tad more athletic. To me he's definitely a PF...but because he's physically weak he'd need to play next to a physical center. He's listed at 220 and he's a young freshman (still 18), within a couple of years he'll be up to 240 which is fine.

To me the draft breaks down into tiers.

Tier 1: Beasley, Rose
Tier 2: Lopez, Mayo, Bayless (although he's looked bad lately), Randolph
Tier 3: Gallinari, Jordan (he's scares the crap out of me), Griffin, Gordon
Tier 4: Augustin, Thabeet, Love, Budinger, Hibbert (no chance he goes top 10), Greene (although I'm not a fan...reminds me of Tim Thomas), maybe Batum

I'd be content with any of Beasley, Rose, Lopez or Mayo...the rest I think are either a drop off in talent, not a good fit or really scare me (Jordan).

[revprodeji]

I like the "tier" idea.

[the_bruce]

quoting yourself does not make your point any better.

How would this kid fit? What draft range do you see? Inconsistant motor worries me, and he might be skinnier than Brewer.

His weaknesses concern me. I do not see him as a better prospect or pro player fit then Beasley/rose/mayo/lopez/Gallinari/Hibbert/Greene.

If anything I would rather have Batum then Randolph. Randolph and Jordan both need to return to school.

How wouldn't this kid fit. He can run the floor pretty well, provide some shot blocking + rebounding. Two things we really need help with. His motor is just a matter of diet + training. Meh weight room + diet = fixed. I'd say 3-10 depending on the team.

Aside from Beasly those guys have some major weaknesses imo, weaknesses that will be magnified against NBA caliber athletes and which are very hard to get better at.

Hibbert - I'm biased I think he's to slow to be effective in the nba

Gallinari - Euro LBJ or Hedo, I'd take either, but I dont know the euro's. I'd like to see his predraft numbers before commiting to him or I dunno meh Euro's.

Rose - shooting but I don't care I'm a sucker for athletes

Greene - I like him I'd coin flip between he and randolph, or make em fight for whos better. I think Randolph is maybe the better long term prospect, but greene surely has the better shot.

Lopez - I'd take him maybe at #3, I'm just not sure how well he will adapt to nba competition. As far as I can tell he's not a superb athlete, just fundamentally sound\rounded. He'd probably work well with Al though. I suppose he'd be a decent post defender, and could play in the high post. He and his brother seem to run the floor pretty well for a big guys too. I dunno I watched a standford game a few days ago and I did like what I saw from him.

Mayo - McCants 2.0, I don't mind getting him but I see it as duplication. Shad would need to be shipped imo

As a long term nba prospect I'd say Randolph has enough upside to be up there with Beasly or Rose. You cant teach his strengths. I think He's got a similar upside to his game when compared to Beasly, Beasly is just more polished and "nba ready".

I'm torn about our pick, but I certainly don't think a guard is what we need.

[revprodeji]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4GIstR7teAc
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_SOQIxFmP_w

[revprodeji]

I have been studying more on Randolph. If we think he can play the 4 and be an effective defender at the 4 next to Al then I think we need to move on him. Possibly ahead of Lopez if not next to him. I am very curious what his wingspan will be. Problem is most of the reports I found said his defense is what needs the most work.

[the_bruce]

I have been studying more on Randolph. If we think he can play the 4 and be an effective defender at the 4 next to Al then I think we need to move on him. Possibly ahead of Lopez if not next to him. I am very curious what his wingspan will be. Problem is most of the reports I found said his defense is what needs the most work.

Most of his defensive problems are related to being out muscled on the low block. He can improve here with better training to put on some pounds Defensively I think he could be like KG based on his frame and athletic ability.

[Magoose]

Lopez - I'd take him maybe at #3, I'm just not sure how well he will adapt to nba competition. As far as I can tell he's not a superb athlete, just fundamentally sound\rounded. He'd probably work well with Al though. I suppose he'd be a decent post defender, and could play in the high post. He and his brother seem to run the floor pretty well for a big guys too. I dunno I watched a standford game a few days ago and I did like what I saw from him.

Watched the Stanford game lately and was quite impressed by brook's twin brother, Robin. He was called "the defensive minded lopez" and the commentators said that his improvement on the offensive end over the past 10 games or so has been remarkable.

Does anyone know if he's going to stay for another year at Stanford? Maybe it would be nice to have the lopez twin sevenfooter package around...

well...just curious...

[the_bruce]

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Watched the Stanford game lately and was quite impressed by brook's twin brother, Robin. He was called "the defensive minded lopez" and the commentators said that his improvement on the offensive end over the past 10 games or so has been remarkable.

Does anyone know if he's going to stay for another year at Stanford? Maybe it would be nice to have the lopez twin sevenfooter package around...

well...just curious...

I thought of the twin 7 footer package too. I liked what I saw of Robin too, but mainly because he'd be cheaper if he came out this year. He will probably stay another year imo. If he stays a year he could crack the lotto, this year hes post lotto, most likely a 2nd rnd pick.

[drummerrob26]

I think that the guy to take if we do not get 1 or 2 would be Mayo. I really liked how he played down the stretch for USC. Then we use our 2 2nd round picks to move up. I wouldnt mind seeing Serge Ibaka as a late first round pick in a wolves uniform.

[the_bruce]

I think that the guy to take if we do not get 1 or 2 would be Mayo. I really liked how he played down the stretch for USC. Then we use our 2 2nd round picks to move up. I wouldnt mind seeing Serge Ibaka as a late first round pick in a wolves uniform.

I was floored when I saw the adidas mix on youtube and I don't think we can get in range of Ibaka. A 6'10 kid that athletic is unheard of(dwight howard with a better vert??), if he goes to predraft camp I'm pretty sure he rockets up the charts.

[collin_k41]

how long until guys beasley and mayo declare?

[revprodeji]

I have spent the last couple hours studying Randolph. Honestly, kid might have more potential then Beasley. He is flying up my charts if he has a good summer.

[revprodeji]

http://www.realgm.com/src_fromtherafter ... ph_of_lsu/

[big3_8_19_21]

Brook Lopez with 30 points in a 1 point win over Marquette including the game winner...but only 4 rebounds...however Robin Lopez had 18 points and 9 rebounds