2016 draft thread: Part 2

[C.lupus]

Or you draft the best player on board and trade Dieng if necessary. Either way, I think the point is you don't tie up too much money on one role when you got other weaknesses to take care of.

I agree with that. I just don't agree with Klomp's assertion that drafting a SG creates roster issues while drafting a C doesn't.

[Klomp]

And if you draft Poeltl then you have the same problem on the fronntline that you are trying to avoid on the wings. Towns/Dieng/Bjelica/Poeltl all need minutes.

Bjelica isn't to a point where he should get a regular 20 mpg. And Poeltl wouldn't be a high-volume minutes guy either.

Plus, depth at the bigs is more important because of foul trouble, less stamina, etc.

[RationalGaze]

Or you draft the best player on the board and trade Shabazz if necessary.

Well that's debatable.

Everything is debatable, that's why we are here. My point is I want Thibs to take the player he thinks is best regardless of whether that player is a sg or a pf or a sf or a c. Having a minutes crunch because of guys like Shabazz or Bjelica shoudn't factor into it. If Poeltl is the best available player, by all means draft him. If Murray or Hield are the bpa, then draft one of them. Figure out free agency and trades later. And getting a second tier combo forward can work in either situation.

True and I'm thinking it'll be a Power since any legit Powers are too expensive or other teams will get them the next 2 years. I don't want some fill-in power. They just stand out in a negative way when looking at other team's powers. Shooting guards that can backup are abundant the next 2 years and there's always 2017 draft.
Al Horford
Serge Ibaka
Blake Griffin
Those are the only 3 legit ones available this year and next. Time to get a Power and move on forward to free agency.

[Klomp]

One thing I'll say to your point, is the current roster makeup, which also includes Garnett, Pekovic and Payne, plus option deals on Smith and Rudez. However, none of those should be factored in as major rotation pieces.

On bodies alone, adding a big would create a bigger jam than a wing. However, in terms of actual rotation pieces, I still think post is a bigger need. Whether or not Poeltl is good enough to fill that role has yet to be determined.

Thinking about my big board more since last night, I would place Poeltl at 5 -- behind Murray but ahead of Hield.

[Takingbaconback]

One thing I'll say to your point, is the current roster makeup, which also includes Garnett, Pekovic and Payne, plus option deals on Smith and Rudez. However, none of those should be factored in as major rotation pieces.

On bodies alone, adding a big would create a bigger jam than a wing. However, in terms of actual rotation pieces, I still think post is a bigger need. Whether or not Poeltl is good enough to fill that role has yet to be determined.

Thinking about my big board more since last night, I would place Poeltl at 5 -- behind Murray but ahead of Hield.

I know Rudez shouldn't be considered as a major rotation piece but I hope he gets more playing time.

Just to compare, who is going to be the better player at their peak? Boban Marjonavic or Poeltl?

[NewWolvesOrder]

I'm liking Aminu or Covington as trade targets with our pick (outside of top 3). i think both are good stretch 4s and replace Tayshaun in the lineup. Obviously would like some sweetener to make up value.

[TwolvesFanRome]

All waste-discussion...

Do you know why???

Because we'll got #1..!!!!!

[NewWolvesOrder]

All waste-discussion...

Do you know why???

Because we'll got #1..!!!!!

it would really piss off other fans. We would be the most hated team on RGM.

[subwayJ]

What would M. Gasol cost? Pick 5? Pick 5 & Baz? How do you guys feel about him? Might be too old, but he does have an old mans type of game.

[C.lupus]

All waste-discussion...

Do you know why???

Because we'll got #1..!!!!!

it would really piss off other fans. We would be the most hated team on RGM.

We've done our penance so I wouldn't care.

[fattymcgee]

All waste-discussion...

Do you know why???

Because we'll got #1..!!!!!

it would really piss off other fans. We would be the most hated team on RGM.

Other fans can kiss our butt. In the entire history of the lottery, the TWolves have NEVER moved up in the lottery. We've been the worst team in the league 3 times and 2nd worst sometimes but have only gotten one #1 pick. Other fans say we got two #1's in a row, but we gave up our only good asset for Wiggins and didn't draft him.

[Takingbaconback]

What would the wolves do with the first pick? Just trade down for #2 and trade down again for #3 and take Bender or whoever is left out of the top 3?

[Worm Guts]

What would the wolves do with the first pick? Just trade down for #2 and trade down again for #3 and take Bender or whoever is left out of the top 3?

We'd probably stay put and take Simmons or Ingram.

[NewWolvesOrder]

Ingram!!!

[Klomp]

What would M. Gasol cost? Pick 5? Pick 5 & Baz? How do you guys feel about him? Might be too old, but he does have an old mans type of game.

I thought about him for a bit, but I wouldn't want to trade a top-5 pick for a 31-year old center with a bad foot.

It's interesting looking at his number of games played per season. Every-other year he basically plays a full slate of games, but the years in between his games played total keeps dropping: 82 / 69 / 81 / 65 / 80 / 59 / 81 / 52

[Klomp]

Just to compare, who is going to be the better player at their peak? Boban Marjonavic or Poeltl?

I'll take the chance on the 20-year old over the 27-year old, especially since the younger one would be locked into a rookie deal.

[Takingbaconback]

Marc Gasol is already 31? dam

[minimus]

only one? CLE, GS, POR, ATL, MIA, TOR all go small every game.

There's a difference between having one small-ball lineup for short stretches and having a small-ball lineup for the majority of the game.

And I guess I was wrong on there being only one. Miami is the second, since Bosh's health incident. Before that, he was playing PF, not C.

Toronto starts Patterson and Valanciunas. San Antonio starts Aldridge and Duncan. Atlanta starts Horford and Millsap. Cleveland starts Love and Thompson. During the season, Portland started Vonleh and Plumlee. Oklahoma City starts Ibaka and Adams.

If we don't sign or draft someone, we are going to continue to get killed on the glass because you can't expect one player to do all the rebounding for the team. Small-ball lineups only work when the lineup can defend and rebound.

Let's take SAS as example. They can play small ball with Leonard and LMA, they can go big with Duncan and LMA, play West and Diaw, Diaw and LMA. They have a lot of options simply because Leonard can defend anyone on perimeter, Green is an excellent defender with size too.

MIA played Bosh, Whiteside, Bosh and Deng, Deng and Whiteside. Because Deng and Winslow are versatile defenders.

We have no defensive versatility on perimeter at this point. This puts our bigs in bad position every time we get beat on perimeter. I hope we get Ingram, give him couple of years to develop under Thibs and Kander supervision.

[GopherIt!]

We got our Duncan, now we just need our Kawhi, LMA, Manu, Parker, Green, West, Diaw and Mills.

[GopherIt!]

He's the same size as CJ McCollum - 6'4", 214 lbs. Not ideal height for a SG but as McCollum and Reddick have proved, that's not a huge problem if you can shoot.

Hence, undersized.

McCollum is actually an interesting comp for Murray.

The success of McCollum and Reddick have shown just how valuable Murray and Hield will be in the league.

I am down w a Rubio, Murray & LaVine rotation in the backcourt.