Updates on former Wolves

[Pass_the_rock]

Dunn is still a terribly inefficient offensive player who got a chance to put up some numbers on the worst team in the league. He's not proving anyone wrong as of right now. Still on the path to a defensive role player off the bench.

[LibertyPrime]

8-24 FG. Man. Those are some "Carmelo-was-having-a-bad-night" kinda numbers right there.

Then again, what else are the Bulls gonna do, play Jerami Grant? He also did get double-digit assists, though.

GIve him time; he'll get better. (Just wish that held true for last year).

[GimmeDat]

If I was a Wolves fan, I wouldn't be second guessing moving him. Dunn's developmental curve simply did not fit with your timeline, coaching, or system by the sound of things.

Dunn is progressing, probably more than many of you realize, but it's taken the green light, a lot of freedom and not a lot of competition at the PG spot.

The overall season efficiency numbers still won't look good, but he's improved exponentially from when he first got the starting job to now. He's a lot more consistent, he's shooting 42% from 3 on the season (just low volume spot up looks but that's all you need from him), he looks confident in his mid-range game, he's pulling out some turn arounds and more difficult shot making moves, etc.

He can clearly make plays for others but his TO's/handle was a massive issue a month ago. It still is but he's improving; that 12 assist game above he only had 1 TO, and that was a tipped pass the refs missed.

His main issue right now is his finishing at the rim, he tries to avoid contact instead of use his athleticism to its fullest extent. That said, his FT rate is improving as the season goes on and he's missing less and less bunnies.

Bulls fans are happy with him, and I'm tentatively hoping he's our starting PG for the next decade - he's certainly shown the potential, we just need to see consistency over a much larger sample. The trajectory is up though, that's all you can ask after his rookie season.

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[PharmD]

How would Dunn's developmental curve not fit our timeline? Towns was 21 when we traded him. We only had to go into 'win now mode' because of the trade where we sent Dunn away.

[GimmeDat]

How would Dunn's developmental curve not fit our timeline? Towns was 21 when we traded him. We only had to go into 'win now mode' because of the trade where we sent Dunn away.

Well I guess it's not just a matter of fitting the age range of your core, but also that it seemed clear your organization wanted to take some degree of a leap in to competitiveness at that stage, as well as Thibs always tending to play guys in roles that suite their immediate effectiveness rather than development, but also that you had Rubio, and now Teague, there's a sort of baseline of PG play that you'd expect from the position, and for the first few months, and even at times now, he was just a mess running the offense, to the point where I'd have expected Thibs to run Tyus at point and try and turn Dunn in to a defensive SG.

I just don't see him having the freedom and opportunity to play through those really bad times at the Wolves. It would've been a detriment to all the existing young pieces like KAT, Wiggins, Lavine, etc. that you're also trying to maximize. The Bulls have nothing to lose and are just throwing him out there with a long leash and only now has he just started to turn the corner, kind of.

[walk with me]

How would Dunn's developmental curve not fit our timeline? Towns was 21 when we traded him. We only had to go into 'win now mode' because of the trade where we sent Dunn away.

Bulls are like 4-20
We are 4th in the west

Dunn fits the timeline if you want to stay out of the playoffs for the next 3-4 years

[PharmD]

How would Dunn's developmental curve not fit our timeline? Towns was 21 when we traded him. We only had to go into 'win now mode' because of the trade where we sent Dunn away.

Well I guess it's not just a matter of fitting the age range of your core, but also that it seemed clear your organization wanted to take some degree of a leap in to competitiveness at that stage, as well as Thibs always tending to play guys in roles that suite their immediate effectiveness rather than development, but also that you had Rubio, and now Teague, there's a sort of baseline of PG play that you'd expect from the position, and for the first few months, and even at times now, he was just a mess running the offense, to the point where I'd have expected Thibs to run Tyus at point and try and turn Dunn in to a defensive SG.

I just don't see him having the freedom and opportunity to play through those really bad times at the Wolves. It would've been a detriment to all the existing young pieces like KAT, Wiggins, Lavine, etc. that you're also trying to maximize. The Bulls have nothing to lose and are just throwing him out there with a long leash and only now has he just started to turn the corner, kind of.

Right, Thibs was the one that didn't fit the roster's timeline.

[Merc_Porto]

How would Dunn's developmental curve not fit our timeline? Towns was 21 when we traded him. We only had to go into 'win now mode' because of the trade where we sent Dunn away.

Bulls are like 4-20
We are 4th in the west

Dunn fits the timeline if you want to stay out of the playoffs for the next 3-4 years

You keep bringing the 4th in the west and the record which is a fact. And i'm glad we traded Dunn btw, was for Jimmy Butler to begin.

But this team with Dunn on the team would be in the same situation as they are now if the deal didn't incluide Dunn.

Not acknowledged (for several times now) that we add a boderline superstar is huge in the facts.

Is unfair for Dunn, Lavine, Rubio because they never had a talented guy like Jimmy next to them.
We all seeing, the difference is Jimmy. Period.

[packforfreedom]

I think it's unbelievable that Dunn is hitting 3s now. His shot last season was one of the worst i've ever seen.

[walk with me]

How would Dunn's developmental curve not fit our timeline? Towns was 21 when we traded him. We only had to go into 'win now mode' because of the trade where we sent Dunn away.

Bulls are like 4-20
We are 4th in the west

Dunn fits the timeline if you want to stay out of the playoffs for the next 3-4 years

You keep bringing the 4th in the west and the record which is a fact. And i'm glad we traded Dunn btw, was for Jimmy Butler to begin.

But this team with Dunn on the team would be in the same situation as they are now if the deal didn't incluide Dunn.

Not acknowledged (for several times now) that we add a boderline superstar is huge in the facts.

Is unfair for Dunn, Lavine, Rubio because they never had a talented guy like Jimmy next to them.
We all seeing, the difference is Jimmy. Period.

If we keep Dunn
then we don’t get jimmy. It’s very simple.

Bulls will be tanking for the next few years
We’ll be fighting for home court in the next playoffs in the next few years

Home court in the playoffs or tanking. Pick one.

[Merc_Porto]

Bulls are like 4-20
We are 4th in the west

Dunn fits the timeline if you want to stay out of the playoffs for the next 3-4 years

You keep bringing the 4th in the west and the record which is a fact. And i'm glad we traded Dunn btw, was for Jimmy Butler to begin.

But this team with Dunn on the team would be in the same situation as they are now if the deal didn't incluide Dunn.

Not acknowledged (for several times now) that we add a boderline superstar is huge in the facts.

Is unfair for Dunn, Lavine, Rubio because they never had a talented guy like Jimmy next to them.
We all seeing, the difference is Jimmy. Period.

If we keep Dunn
then we don’t get jimmy. It’s very simple.

Bulls will be tanking for the next few years
We’ll be fighting for home court in the next playoffs in the next few years

Home court in the playoffs or tanking. Pick one.

You understood what i meant.

[walk with me]

You keep bringing the 4th in the west and the record which is a fact. And i'm glad we traded Dunn btw, was for Jimmy Butler to begin.

But this team with Dunn on the team would be in the same situation as they are now if the deal didn't incluide Dunn.

Not acknowledged (for several times now) that we add a boderline superstar is huge in the facts.

Is unfair for Dunn, Lavine, Rubio because they never had a talented guy like Jimmy next to them.
We all seeing, the difference is Jimmy. Period.

If we keep Dunn
then we don’t get jimmy. It’s very simple.

Bulls will be tanking for the next few years
We’ll be fighting for home court in the next playoffs in the next few years

Home court in the playoffs or tanking. Pick one.

You understood what i meant.

I mean it’s hard to respond to what you said because there’s no way you add jimmy butler on this team and retain kris Dunn.

Might as well say what if the Twolves had Lebron instead of jimmy. The originl comment that sparked my comment was how does Dunn not fit the timeline. He doesn’t fit the timeline because the wolves would be out of the playoffs for another year because Jimmy doesn’t get added.

[Merc_Porto]

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Too bad Ricky doesn't attack the rim more and more with this kind of plays. Good game for him but again, for him to have good games in Utah he needs to be outstanding shooting the ball. He doesn't have many opportunities to be good at what he's best for.

[Truebiscuit]

I think it's unbelievable that Dunn is hitting 3s now. His shot last season was one of the worst i've ever seen.

Fred Hoiberg has been working with him diligently on his shooting form and it is starting to pay dividends.

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[shangrila]

I think it's unbelievable that Dunn is hitting 3s now. His shot last season was one of the worst i've ever seen.

That 52% mark the last few games he has is unsustainable, but from what I've seen his form has improved a little. He's still a poor FT shooter though. I'll never understand that.

[vagelis]

Kris Dunn leads the Bulls to their sixth straight win.
He is the same player that 95% of the Wolves fans thought that his value is zero.
Some of you now believe the same about Wiggins.
I know that I have zero chance when I am talking about potential and player tools but I also know that the Bulls have found a pg for the next decade

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[AirP.]

Kris Dunn leads the Bulls to their sixth straight win.
He is the same player that 95% of the Wolves fans thought that his value is zero.
Some of you now believe the same about Wiggins.
I know that I have zero chance when I am talking about potential and player tools but I also know that the Bulls have found a pg for the next decade

The difference... Wiggins has already had multiple green light seasons and didn't really get better, all that was different was his shot attempts went up. You're actually arguing against Wiggins by showing Dunn doing better after having offensive freedom.

[Maefteda]

Dunn's game last night was his best so far. So clutch.