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Re: 2022 NBA Draft Talk: Never too soon 

Post#301 » by shangrila » Tue May 10, 2022 11:14 pm

A guy I'm getting high on now is Quenton Jackson from Texas A&M.

6-5 guard, 34% from 3, 82% from the line, 3.9 STL% and 2.5 BLK%. Negative AST/TO ratio, so probably not much of a PG right now, and an older prospect as a 5yr senior, but basically a potential 3 and D guy that could be that long term replacement for Bev.

The best part? Currently he's going undrafted, so we can pick him up for CHEAP.
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Re: 2022 NBA Draft Talk: Never too soon 

Post#302 » by Slim Tubby » Tue May 10, 2022 11:44 pm

Klomp wrote:Just thinking with our deep rotation of guys under contract, we can probably afford to take a chance on someone with loads of potential who may not be ready right away. I give you...


A dream scenario for me, personally, unless one of the Centers fall to 19.


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Re: 2022 NBA Draft Talk: Never too soon 

Post#303 » by KGdaBom » Wed May 11, 2022 11:36 pm

shangrila wrote:
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minimus wrote:
Yeah, he is 21 yo, so I would be happy if he falls down to 19 pick. Or trade up by using Nowell is also a good variant.

OK I need to decide on who I'm backing for our draft pick and It's got to be Eason.
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He won't be available. Short of an injury or something else dramatic he's going to be a lottery pick.

not according to Tankathon.
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Re: 2022 NBA Draft Talk: Never too soon 

Post#304 » by shangrila » Thu May 12, 2022 1:24 am

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KGdaBom wrote:OK I need to decide on who I'm backing for our draft pick and It's got to be Eason.
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He won't be available. Short of an injury or something else dramatic he's going to be a lottery pick.

not according to Tankathon.

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Re: 2022 NBA Draft Talk: Never too soon 

Post#305 » by Baseline81 » Thu May 12, 2022 6:02 pm

Thoughts on TyTy Washington? Or would Kennedy Chandler be the one to draft if going PG?

He's currently mocked to the Wolves on Tankathon.

Seems to have a similar profile, other than FT rate, to Maxey. NOT SAYING HE WILL BE MAXEY.

Washington
https://www.sports-reference.com/cbb/players/tyty-washingtonjr-1.html

Maxey
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Post#306 » by Neeva » Thu May 12, 2022 6:10 pm

I think washington lacks athleticism and reminds me of an even less athletic DLO :/
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Post#307 » by cmoss84 » Thu May 12, 2022 7:19 pm

Justin Lewis anyone? physical 6'7" forward who can shoot the rock?
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Re: 2022 NBA Draft Talk: Never too soon 

Post#308 » by shangrila » Thu May 12, 2022 9:24 pm

cmoss84 wrote:Justin Lewis anyone? physical 6'7" forward who can shoot the rock?

I watched a few games of his and came away hating his defensive intensity. He looks like he's strictly a 4 defensively at this point, without the speed or much desire to bother guys on the perimeter.
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Re: 2022 NBA Draft Talk: Never too soon 

Post#309 » by shangrila » Thu May 12, 2022 9:37 pm

Baseline81 wrote:Thoughts on TyTy Washington? Or would Kennedy Chandler be the one to draft if going PG?

He's currently mocked to the Wolves on Tankathon.

Seems to have a similar profile, other than FT rate, to Maxey. NOT SAYING HE WILL BE MAXEY.

Washington
https://www.sports-reference.com/cbb/players/tyty-washingtonjr-1.html

Maxey
https://www.sports-reference.com/cbb/players/tyrese-maxey-1.html

Washington is probably a better PG and shooter but worse athlete. Neither of them are/seem good on defence (Maxey got hyped for that in predraft but has sucked on that end in the league from what I've seen) but if I were betting on one of them in a Pat Bev kind of role offensively, it'd be Washington. I buy him off ball more and as a playmaker.

Chandler is interesting to me. Bit of a throwback PG at this point given how the league is trending towards combos there (even if he's more CP3/Deron Williams than Kidd/Rondo stylistically) but he's a good, in control playmaker that has good form on his shot (FT% should be a red flag but he's been a 90%-ish guy his whole career so I'd be willing to overlook it), is a good finisher around the rim (Hoop-Math has him at 59% which isn't elite, but still good) and seems to have great instincts and competitiveness on defence. He probably won't be a lockdown guy on that end due to his slight frame but I think, after some time in the weight room, he won't necessarily be hunted down there and should be a positive contributor from day 1 on that end regardless.

I hate to say it, especially since he's finally getting love, but Chandler might be the idealised version of Jordan McLaughlin; speedy PG that gets us into sets quickly, can finish at the rim, make shots, make good passes and competes defensively.
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Re: 2022 NBA Draft Talk: Never too soon 

Post#310 » by Klomp » Thu May 12, 2022 11:32 pm

shangrila wrote:Chandler is interesting to me. Bit of a throwback PG at this point given how the league is trending towards combos there (even if he's more CP3/Deron Williams than Kidd/Rondo stylistically) but he's a good, in control playmaker that has good form on his shot (FT% should be a red flag but he's been a 90%-ish guy his whole career so I'd be willing to overlook it), is a good finisher around the rim (Hoop-Math has him at 59% which isn't elite, but still good) and seems to have great instincts and competitiveness on defence. He probably won't be a lockdown guy on that end due to his slight frame but I think, after some time in the weight room, he won't necessarily be hunted down there and should be a positive contributor from day 1 on that end regardless.

I hate to say it, especially since he's finally getting love, but Chandler might be the idealised version of Jordan McLaughlin; speedy PG that gets us into sets quickly, can finish at the rim, make shots, make good passes and competes defensively.

I really like the tempo he plays with.
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Re: 2022 NBA Draft Talk: Never too soon 

Post#311 » by KGdaBom » Thu May 12, 2022 11:42 pm

shangrila wrote:
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shangrila wrote:He won't be available. Short of an injury or something else dramatic he's going to be a lottery pick.

not according to Tankathon.

Well, what’s that favourite phrase of yours?

“They have a right to be wrong”

In this case I very much hope they are right. Go Wolves.
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Re: 2022 NBA Draft Talk: Never too soon 

Post#312 » by KGdaBom » Thu May 12, 2022 11:45 pm

Baseline81 wrote:Thoughts on TyTy Washington? Or would Kennedy Chandler be the one to draft if going PG?

He's currently mocked to the Wolves on Tankathon.

Seems to have a similar profile, other than FT rate, to Maxey. NOT SAYING HE WILL BE MAXEY.

Washington
https://www.sports-reference.com/cbb/players/tyty-washingtonjr-1.html

Maxey
https://www.sports-reference.com/cbb/players/tyrese-maxey-1.html

I just simulated the lottery 10 times and we ended up with Eason 9 times and Ty Ty 1.
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Re: 2022 NBA Draft Talk: Never too soon 

Post#313 » by Klomp » Fri May 13, 2022 12:14 am

Not a sexy pick, but I love the potential fit of Jake LaRavia. The NBA is about putting the right pieces around your stars to complement them, and I believe this kid has the skills we want playing off of Towns and Edwards.


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LaRavia is an easy fit at the highest level because of his versatility as a 6-8 modern 4. He can move all over the floor offensively, as he's capable of initiating offense in transition, functioning as a pick-and-roll ball-handler, playing out of the post to score or facilitate (one of his best skills), or picking and popping to space for spot 3s (40%), closeout attacks or quick reads (4.3 assists per 40 minutes).

LaRavia has a lot of the ingredients you generally see in draft risers given his intangibles, late-blooming status, skill level, feel and productivity. Younger than freshmen such as Kentucky's TyTy Washington, LaRavia was only 6-4 when former Indiana State head coach Greg Lansing first started watching him at Lawrence Central High School in Indiana.

Whether it's an undrafted 6-10 forward such as Dean Wade or a top-10 pick in Deni Avdija, there are players LaRavia resembles who have found success in the NBA, and another big performance surely gives LaRavia more of a runway to convince scouts and evaluators that he's worthy of true first-round consideration like his productivity and versatility suggest. -- Schmitz
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Post#314 » by shangrila » Fri May 13, 2022 1:47 am

Is LaRavia 6-10? I thought he was 6-8.

If he is 6-10 that changes some things, but at 6-8 I had him pegged as a more athletic (or pre-injury?) Robbie Hummel. A guy that doesn't specialise in any one thing but does so many things at a high level.

He's worth one of our 2nds for sure. Not worth 19 and not sure if he's worth moving up for (if that's what it takes).
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Post#315 » by shangrila » Fri May 13, 2022 1:48 am

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shangrila wrote:Chandler is interesting to me. Bit of a throwback PG at this point given how the league is trending towards combos there (even if he's more CP3/Deron Williams than Kidd/Rondo stylistically) but he's a good, in control playmaker that has good form on his shot (FT% should be a red flag but he's been a 90%-ish guy his whole career so I'd be willing to overlook it), is a good finisher around the rim (Hoop-Math has him at 59% which isn't elite, but still good) and seems to have great instincts and competitiveness on defence. He probably won't be a lockdown guy on that end due to his slight frame but I think, after some time in the weight room, he won't necessarily be hunted down there and should be a positive contributor from day 1 on that end regardless.

I hate to say it, especially since he's finally getting love, but Chandler might be the idealised version of Jordan McLaughlin; speedy PG that gets us into sets quickly, can finish at the rim, make shots, make good passes and competes defensively.

I really like the tempo he plays with.

Yeah, I think the only real knock on him is that he's 6ft with a slight frame in a league that's all about switching and bigger guards (which is ironic given how small bigs are getting).

Aside from that he ticks every box you'd want from a PG.
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Post#316 » by Klomp » Fri May 13, 2022 3:33 am

shangrila wrote:Is LaRavia 6-10? I thought he was 6-8.

If he is 6-10 that changes some things, but at 6-8 I had him pegged as a more athletic (or pre-injury?) Robbie Hummel. A guy that doesn't specialise in any one thing but does so many things at a high level.

He's worth one of our 2nds for sure. Not worth 19 and not sure if he's worth moving up for (if that's what it takes).

He's 6'8" (the 6'10" was referring to Wade)
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Re: 2022 NBA Draft Talk: Never too soon 

Post#317 » by minimus » Fri May 13, 2022 7:55 am

Klomp wrote:
shangrila wrote:Is LaRavia 6-10? I thought he was 6-8.

If he is 6-10 that changes some things, but at 6-8 I had him pegged as a more athletic (or pre-injury?) Robbie Hummel. A guy that doesn't specialise in any one thing but does so many things at a high level.

He's worth one of our 2nds for sure. Not worth 19 and not sure if he's worth moving up for (if that's what it takes).

He's 6'8" (the 6'10" was referring to Wade)


I have psychological trauma, after watching for many years Chase Budinger, Robbie Hummel, Jake Layman. Always liked their skillset, but they never lived up expectations.
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Re: 2022 NBA Draft Talk: Never too soon 

Post#318 » by moss_is_1 » Fri May 13, 2022 2:54 pm

I've mentioned LaRivia, I'd be fine with him in the 2nd round. He has skills, good shooter, and he's young for his draft class.
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Post#319 » by Klomp » Fri May 13, 2022 2:59 pm

minimus wrote:I have psychological trauma, after watching for many years Chase Budinger, Robbie Hummel, Jake Layman. Always liked their skillset, but they never lived up expectations.

We never really had the top-end talent for them to play off.
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Post#320 » by Klomp » Fri May 13, 2022 3:06 pm

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