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2024 Draft - Who you got?

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Re: 2024 Draft - Who you got? 

Post#301 » by shangrila » Fri Jun 7, 2024 9:44 am

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He also apparently measured a 6-5 wingspan.

I could see him dropping like Whitmore from last season, especially if Topic similarly only works out for high lottery teams so all the later ones and into the mid-1st pass on him because they don't feel comfortable taking him over other guys they have worked out.

No way he lasts to 27 but I could see him still being available in the early 20s so possibly a trade up candidate.
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Re: 2024 Draft - Who you got? 

Post#302 » by minimus » Fri Jun 7, 2024 10:44 am

Can TC find a Vando type of player, but with working corner 3pt shot?
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Re: 2024 Draft - Who you got? 

Post#303 » by BlacJacMac » Fri Jun 7, 2024 4:59 pm

I find this dude super interesting.

Dillon Jones: Weber State, Senior
6'6, 230, 6'11 Wingspan


Bully-ball point guard with an unorthodox style of play given his size.

PLUSES
At 6-foot-6 and over 230 pounds, Jones doesn’t look like a typical primary shot creator, but he’s shifty and has a tight handle and good passing vision. He’s decisive off the bounce, finding cutters and spot-up shooters with speedy bull’s-eye passes.

Creative ball handler who uses his body to his advantage. He primarily scores at the rim and is a relentless downhill attacker who blends power and finesse to finish through contact with a soft touch. He also likes to lean into defenders to create space for effortless midrange pull-ups, and he possesses the touch and confidence to make them even when they’re heavily contested.

Overpowers smaller players on post-ups. He could be a mismatch killer at the next level, particularly in on-ball screening actions since he can short roll and score, make plays, or go into a post-up.

There are encouraging signs that he’ll be able to figure it out as a spot-up shooter. He is an 80-plus percent shooter from the line in his college career and has a feathery-soft touch from floater range.

Excellent rebounder with a nose for the ball. With his handling ability, he can turn defensive boards into instant offense. He makes a similar defensive impact in the passing lanes, looking for deflections and steals.

MINUSES
Sluggish on-ball defender who needs to improve his lateral quickness to stay in front of quicker guards and wings.

Below-the-rim athlete who rarely dunks or blocks shots at the rim, which hurts his chances of operating as a small-ball center.

Looks uncomfortable as a shooter from deeper ranges, as if he’s not generating enough power from his lower body and instead has to hoist the ball with his arms. Changes to his shot mechanics, and possibly losing weight, will be necessary to help him extend his range.

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Re: 2024 Draft - Who you got? 

Post#304 » by minimus » Fri Jun 7, 2024 5:09 pm

BlacJacMac wrote:I find this dude super interesting.

Dillon Jones: Weber State, Senior
6'6, 230, 6'11 Wingspan


Bully-ball point guard with an unorthodox style of play given his size.


Sounds a lot like Daishen Nix
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Re: 2024 Draft - Who you got? 

Post#305 » by BlacJacMac » Fri Jun 7, 2024 5:12 pm

minimus wrote:
BlacJacMac wrote:I find this dude super interesting.

Dillon Jones: Weber State, Senior
6'6, 230, 6'11 Wingspan


Bully-ball point guard with an unorthodox style of play given his size.


Sounds a lot like Daishen Nix


But hopefully...good.
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Re: 2024 Draft - Who you got? 

Post#306 » by cmoss84 » Fri Jun 7, 2024 6:15 pm

#17 Lakers
#27 us
#37 us
#55 Lakers
Do we take Bronny at 37? No way Lakers take him 17, right? But he surely won't be there at 55, right?
This is going to be interesting to watch play out.
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Re: 2024 Draft - Who you got? 

Post#307 » by BlacJacMac » Fri Jun 7, 2024 6:34 pm

cmoss84 wrote:#17 Lakers
#27 us
#37 us
#55 Lakers
Do we take Bronny at 37? No way Lakers take him 17, right? But he surely won't be there at 55, right?
This is going to be interesting to watch play out.


Why? Do you think he's going to be a good player? Someone that would have a chance at cracking our rotation?
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Re: 2024 Draft - Who you got? 

Post#308 » by cmoss84 » Fri Jun 7, 2024 6:46 pm

BlacJacMac wrote:
cmoss84 wrote:#17 Lakers
#27 us
#37 us
#55 Lakers
Do we take Bronny at 37? No way Lakers take him 17, right? But he surely won't be there at 55, right?
This is going to be interesting to watch play out.


Why? Do you think he's going to be a good player? Someone that would have a chance at cracking our rotation?

Hell no.
Just working an angle to:
a) attract LeBron to play for a year
b) forcing some kind of trade we benefit from (even if small)
c) piss off Lakers
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Re: 2024 Draft - Who you got? 

Post#309 » by cmoss84 » Fri Jun 7, 2024 6:48 pm

minimus wrote:
BlacJacMac wrote:I find this dude super interesting.

Dillon Jones: Weber State, Senior
6'6, 230, 6'11 Wingspan


Bully-ball point guard with an unorthodox style of play given his size.


Sounds a lot like Daishen Nix

Nix jumps out of the building. That scouting report said this dude rarely dunks.
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Re: 2024 Draft - Who you got? 

Post#310 » by BlacJacMac » Fri Jun 7, 2024 7:01 pm

cmoss84 wrote:
BlacJacMac wrote:
cmoss84 wrote:#17 Lakers
#27 us
#37 us
#55 Lakers
Do we take Bronny at 37? No way Lakers take him 17, right? But he surely won't be there at 55, right?
This is going to be interesting to watch play out.


Why? Do you think he's going to be a good player? Someone that would have a chance at cracking our rotation?

Hell no.
Just working an angle to:
a) attract LeBron to play for a year
b) forcing some kind of trade we benefit from (even if small)
c) piss off Lakers


LeBron has come out and said that whole "he'd play wherever his kid is" thing was totally overblown. I think even he realized it did no favors to him or Bronny.
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Re: 2024 Draft - Who you got? 

Post#311 » by BlacJacMac » Fri Jun 7, 2024 7:02 pm

cmoss84 wrote:
minimus wrote:
BlacJacMac wrote:I find this dude super interesting.

Dillon Jones: Weber State, Senior
6'6, 230, 6'11 Wingspan


Bully-ball point guard with an unorthodox style of play given his size.


Sounds a lot like Daishen Nix

Nix jumps out of the building. That scouting report said this dude rarely dunks.


Jones is not a great athlete (and if you look at his dunks on his Tankathon page, they're tough to watch). But he's bigger and (it sounds like) much more skilled than Nix. I doubt either is an NBA rotational player, but Jones would be a fun swing in the 2nd round. Sometimes these unique guys can work out. I could see him being a SloMo type player eventually.

https://www.tankathon.com/players/dillon-jones
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Re: 2024 Draft - Who you got? 

Post#312 » by cmoss84 » Fri Jun 7, 2024 7:41 pm

BlacJacMac wrote:
cmoss84 wrote:
BlacJacMac wrote:
Why? Do you think he's going to be a good player? Someone that would have a chance at cracking our rotation?

Hell no.
Just working an angle to:
a) attract LeBron to play for a year
b) forcing some kind of trade we benefit from (even if small)
c) piss off Lakers


LeBron has come out and said that whole "he'd play wherever his kid is" thing was totally overblown. I think even he realized it did no favors to him or Bronny.

I'm sure LeBron just trying to be political and ease some tension. Why would Bronny enter if there's not some kind of plan? He's terrible
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Re: 2024 Draft - Who you got? 

Post#313 » by BlacJacMac » Fri Jun 7, 2024 7:46 pm

cmoss84 wrote:
BlacJacMac wrote:
cmoss84 wrote:Hell no.
Just working an angle to:
a) attract LeBron to play for a year
b) forcing some kind of trade we benefit from (even if small)
c) piss off Lakers


LeBron has come out and said that whole "he'd play wherever his kid is" thing was totally overblown. I think even he realized it did no favors to him or Bronny.

I'm sure LeBron just trying to be political and ease some tension. Why would Bronny enter if there's not some kind of plan? He's terrible


Delusion.

If Washington drafts Bronny, do you really think LeBron is going to give up 50+ million to go play with him?

LeBron's wife wants them in LA. LeBron wants to be in LA for his brand.

I think the idea of trying to extort the Lakers or one of the 3 best players in NBA history is something more likely to blow up in your face than help your franchise.
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Re: 2024 Draft - Who you got? 

Post#314 » by Klomp » Fri Jun 7, 2024 7:50 pm

BlacJacMac wrote:I think the idea of trying to extort the Lakers or one of the 3 best players in NBA history is something more likely to blow up in your face than help your franchise.

If that's the sole reason you take him, yeah that's likely a mistake.

But if you believe in his development potential, and hey if it creates a trade dialogue with LAL (for Bronny, not LeBron) we're open to it, I don't have a problem with that.
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Re: 2024 Draft - Who you got? 

Post#315 » by BlacJacMac » Fri Jun 7, 2024 7:54 pm

Klomp wrote:
BlacJacMac wrote:I think the idea of trying to extort the Lakers or one of the 3 best players in NBA history is something more likely to blow up in your face than help your franchise.

If that's the sole reason you take him, yeah that's likely a mistake.

But if you believe in his development potential, and hey if it creates a trade dialogue with LAL (for Bronny, not LeBron) we're open to it, I don't have a problem with that.


What would that even look like? Do they have any players on that small of a contract that you'd be at all interested in?

Maybe trade him for a 2026 1st round swap?

Bronny really should go undrafted and sign with LA as a FA.
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Post#316 » by Norseman79 » Fri Jun 7, 2024 7:59 pm

To me, AJ Johnson is perfect at pick 37. Checks boxes, potential microwave off the bench, develop behind Conley for a year.

I may even take him at 27 if smith is gone
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Re: 2024 Draft - Who you got? 

Post#317 » by Klomp » Fri Jun 7, 2024 8:04 pm

BlacJacMac wrote:
Klomp wrote:
BlacJacMac wrote:I think the idea of trying to extort the Lakers or one of the 3 best players in NBA history is something more likely to blow up in your face than help your franchise.

If that's the sole reason you take him, yeah that's likely a mistake.

But if you believe in his development potential, and hey if it creates a trade dialogue with LAL (for Bronny, not LeBron) we're open to it, I don't have a problem with that.


What would that even look like? Do they have any players on that small of a contract that you'd be at all interested in?

Maybe trade him for a 2026 1st round swap?

Bronny really should go undrafted and sign with LA as a FA.

It could be a trade for a future 2nd...that could land in a year where the draft pool is deeper. It could be something that also involves current players...trades happen all the time involving 2nd rounders.
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Re: 2024 Draft - Who you got? 

Post#318 » by BlacJacMac » Fri Jun 7, 2024 8:05 pm

Norseman79 wrote:To me, AJ Johnson is perfect at pick 37. Checks boxes, potential microwave off the bench, develop behind Conley for a year.

I may even take him at 27 if smith is gone


36/28/54 shooter. Might have the worst Tankathon chart I've seen.

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Re: 2024 Draft - Who you got? 

Post#319 » by BlacJacMac » Fri Jun 7, 2024 8:07 pm

Klomp wrote:
BlacJacMac wrote:
Klomp wrote:If that's the sole reason you take him, yeah that's likely a mistake.

But if you believe in his development potential, and hey if it creates a trade dialogue with LAL (for Bronny, not LeBron) we're open to it, I don't have a problem with that.


What would that even look like? Do they have any players on that small of a contract that you'd be at all interested in?

Maybe trade him for a 2026 1st round swap?

Bronny really should go undrafted and sign with LA as a FA.

It could be a trade for a future 2nd...that could land in a year where the draft pool is deeper. It could be something that also involves current players...trades happen all the time involving 2nd rounders.


Feels like a waste of a high 2nd rounder to me. Maybe if we still had our 56th...
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Post#320 » by Klomp » Fri Jun 7, 2024 8:10 pm

BlacJacMac wrote:Feels like a waste of a high 2nd rounder to me. Maybe if we still had our 56th...

Maybe. Maybe not. Depends on who is on the board and what we need.
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