The Julius Randle Thread

[WentzerWuver]

Those stats show that between 10-19 feet Randle plays ISO about 70% of the time on made shots.

He ISO whenever he has his hand on the ball but tries to take shots closer to the basket, if he doesnt turn the ball over while getting there. Those stats are true for most players, not just Randle. In other words, meaningless.

https://youtu.be/BTjEJQI53qI?si=4QqZ1RiAzOpK1ZkC

His playoff performance is much more concerning. It's why "playoff" Jimmy is in hot demand!

There are many flaws with his game. That doesn’t mean he isn’t valuable on another team. There are flaws in Ant’s game but people would trade for him. I don’t know why you would come to a Minnesota board and try to convince Minnesota fans that Randle is untradable. I think many of us suspect we acquired him to move him.

I am here cause you guys traded for him but once Randle is traded, I will be gone too. I state it again, the only way trade him is getting bad contracts in return, cause they would only want him is to release him to clear their books.

Yes there are flaws with both players but the most important difference is ANT steps up BIG in the playoffs, not play worse like you know who.

https://athlonsports.com/nba/anthony-edwards-makes-nba-playoffs-history-surpassing-lebron-james-timberwolves-nuggets-game-4

[winforlose]

He ISO whenever he has his hand on the ball but tries to take shots closer to the basket, if he doesnt turn the ball over while getting there. Those stats are true for most players, not just Randle. In other words, meaningless.

https://youtu.be/BTjEJQI53qI?si=4QqZ1RiAzOpK1ZkC

His playoff performance is much more concerning. It's why "playoff" Jimmy is in hot demand!

There are many flaws with his game. That doesn’t mean he isn’t valuable on another team. There are flaws in Ant’s game but people would trade for him. I don’t know why you would come to a Minnesota board and try to convince Minnesota fans that Randle is untradable. I think many of us suspect we acquired him to move him.

I am here cause you guys traded for him but once Randle is traded, I will be gone too. I state it again, the only way trade him is getting bad contracts in return, cause they would only want him is to release him to clear their books.

Yes there are flaws with both players but the biggest difference is Ant step up BIG in the playoffs, unlike you know who.

https://athlonsports.com/nba/anthony-edwards-makes-nba-playoffs-history-surpassing-lebron-james-timberwolves-nuggets-game-4

Randle got traded as part of a package for KAT. You may say KAT is bad salary, but he is an all star level player. Randle has value for teams, how much is up to them. Which of us is right will be clear in about 30 days.

[WentzerWuver]

There are many flaws with his game. That doesn’t mean he isn’t valuable on another team. There are flaws in Ant’s game but people would trade for him. I don’t know why you would come to a Minnesota board and try to convince Minnesota fans that Randle is untradable. I think many of us suspect we acquired him to move him.

I am here cause you guys traded for him but once Randle is traded, I will be gone too. I state it again, the only way trade him is getting bad contracts in return, cause they would only want him is to release him to clear their books.

Yes there are flaws with both players but the biggest difference is Ant step up BIG in the playoffs, unlike you know who.

https://athlonsports.com/nba/anthony-edwards-makes-nba-playoffs-history-surpassing-lebron-james-timberwolves-nuggets-game-4

Randle got traded as part of a package for KAT. You may say KAT is bad salary, but he is an all star level player. Randle has value for teams, how much is up to them. Which of us is right will be clear in about 30 days.

I don't recall mentioning KAT bad salary since that applies to many players in the league. Embiid salary is bad too. Now, a serious playoff contender like Minny trading for a known playoff choker makes no sense whatsoever and that would NEVER change...

https://youtube.com/shorts/cKY34E7awyY?si=q86VeTdRnHJIqbju

Like EVERRR!!!

[Loaf_of_bread]

I am here cause you guys traded for him but once Randle is traded, I will be gone too. I state it again, the only way trade him is getting bad contracts in return, cause they would only want him is to release him to clear their books.

Yes there are flaws with both players but the biggest difference is Ant step up BIG in the playoffs, unlike you know who.

https://athlonsports.com/nba/anthony-edwards-makes-nba-playoffs-history-surpassing-lebron-james-timberwolves-nuggets-game-4

Randle got traded as part of a package for KAT. You may say KAT is bad salary, but he is an all star level player. Randle has value for teams, how much is up to them. Which of us is right will be clear in about 30 days.

I don't recall mentioning KAT bad salary since that applies to many players in the league. Embiid salary is bad too. Now, a serious playoff contender like Minny trading for a known playoff choker makes no sense whatsoever and that would NEVER change...

https://youtube.com/shorts/cKY34E7awyY?si=q86VeTdRnHJIqbju

Like EVERRR!!!

TC is trying to win a championship. We weren't there and wouldn't with KAT. Was hard to predict that randle would refuse to play defense.

The season is probably lost though unfortunately, and Randle taking the PO would be horrible.

If I'm in TC's shoes though, got to take a net loss just to get rid of Randle.

The det 1st has suddenly increased its value A LOT.

[WentzerWuver]

Randle got traded as part of a package for KAT. You may say KAT is bad salary, but he is an all star level player. Randle has value for teams, how much is up to them. Which of us is right will be clear in about 30 days.

I don't recall mentioning KAT bad salary since that applies to many players in the league. Embiid salary is bad too. Now, a serious playoff contender like Minny trading for a known playoff choker makes no sense whatsoever and that would NEVER change...

https://youtube.com/shorts/cKY34E7awyY?si=q86VeTdRnHJIqbju

Like EVERRR!!!

TC is trying to win a championship. We weren't there and wouldn't with KAT. Was hard to predict that randle would refuse to play defense.

The season is probably lost though unfortunately, and Randle taking the PO would be horrible.

If I'm in TC's shoes though, got to take a net loss just to get rid of Randle.

The det 1st has suddenly increased its value A LOT.

Lol the Wolves beat the defending champions and almost beat the Mavs cause of KAT and ANT. Only reason they move Kat was his contract as do not want to be struck in the 2nd apron, not cause of his play. And how was it hard to predict that Randle can't play defense when he hasn't done so before, even during his contract year?

https://youtu.be/B141XFJoJvA?si=HKMY3D2YAtT8pmo5

Seems like I know more about the Wolves than you do, since everything you stated was wrong. They should have kept KAT to remain serious contenders regardless of the 2nd apron and ONLY deal with the problem if they are longer serious contenders for some reason.

It's no difference then the Celtics trading Jaylen Brown because of his 300 mil contract but they are smart unlike the Wolves Lol

[winforlose]

I don't recall mentioning KAT bad salary since that applies to many players in the league. Embiid salary is bad too. Now, a serious playoff contender like Minny trading for a known playoff choker makes no sense whatsoever and that would NEVER change...

https://youtube.com/shorts/cKY34E7awyY?si=q86VeTdRnHJIqbju

Like EVERRR!!!

TC is trying to win a championship. We weren't there and wouldn't with KAT. Was hard to predict that randle would refuse to play defense.

The season is probably lost though unfortunately, and Randle taking the PO would be horrible.

If I'm in TC's shoes though, got to take a net loss just to get rid of Randle.

The det 1st has suddenly increased its value A LOT.

Lol the Wolves beat the defending champions and almost beat the Mavs cause of KAT and ANT. Only reason they move Kat was his contract as do not want to be struck in the 2nd apron, not cause of his play. And how was it hard to predict that Randle can't play defense when he hasn't done so before, even during his contract year?

https://youtu.be/B141XFJoJvA?si=HKMY3D2YAtT8pmo5

Seems like I know more about the Wolves than you do, since everything you stated was wrong. They should have kept KAT to remain serious contenders regardless of the 2nd apron and ONLY deal with the problem if they are longer serious contenders for some reason.

It's no difference then the Celtics trading Jaylen Brown because of his 300 mil contract Lol

You’re preaching to the choir on the mistakes of the KAT trade. But you also seem to not understand much of the Wolves. The trade target was DDV. The drafting of Dilly and TSJ was to backfill the roster. Naz Reid is KAT light and when he plays for more than 30 minutes a game he shines, (seriously check the board from about 2 years ago or look for yourself using BB ref and filter games with 30+ minutes.) It is a much bigger bump than the expected bump for a playing a few more minutes. Naz also improved his defense and was quite good in the playoffs defensively (though he was inconsistent on offense with the reduced minutes.) You move on from KAT to promote Naz. Our short term needs are to promote Naz and balance the roster with a PG or C or both. If you have suggestions for doing so please share them. If you are simply here to troll with how much you hate Randle and don’t think we can move him, kindly do so on the trade board.

[WentzerWuver]

TC is trying to win a championship. We weren't there and wouldn't with KAT. Was hard to predict that randle would refuse to play defense.

The season is probably lost though unfortunately, and Randle taking the PO would be horrible.

If I'm in TC's shoes though, got to take a net loss just to get rid of Randle.

The det 1st has suddenly increased its value A LOT.

Lol the Wolves beat the defending champions and almost beat the Mavs cause of KAT and ANT. Only reason they move Kat was his contract as do not want to be struck in the 2nd apron, not cause of his play. And how was it hard to predict that Randle can't play defense when he hasn't done so before, even during his contract year?

https://youtu.be/B141XFJoJvA?si=HKMY3D2YAtT8pmo5

Seems like I know more about the Wolves than you do, since everything you stated was wrong. They should have kept KAT to remain serious contenders regardless of the 2nd apron and ONLY deal with the problem if they are longer serious contenders for some reason.

It's no difference then the Celtics trading Jaylen Brown because of his 300 mil contract Lol

You’re preaching to the choir on the mistakes of the KAT trade. But you also seem to not understand much of the Wolves. The trade target was DDV. The drafting of Dilly and TSJ was to backfill the roster. Naz Reid is KAT light and when he plays for more than 30 minutes a game he shines, (seriously check the board from about 2 years ago or look for yourself using BB ref and filter games with 30+ minutes.) It is a much bigger bump than the expected bump for a playing a few more minutes. Naz also improved his defense and was quite good in the playoffs defensively (though he was inconsistent on offense with the reduced minutes.) You move on from KAT to promote Naz. Our short term needs are to promote Naz and balance the roster with a PG or C or both. If you have suggestions for doing so please share them. If you are simply here to troll with how much you hate Randle and don’t think we can move him, kindly do so on the trade board.

I was aware of Minny interest in DDV for awhile prior to the trade but will take your word on Naz as Kat light with 30+ min which I was not aware of. I dislike Randle's game but will not comment on him further unless posters continue to claim his game is better than KAT here, which is BS.

https://youtu.be/reOW4t8_cro?si=ZmZJwljCDgdgpvLM

[winforlose]

Lol the Wolves beat the defending champions and almost beat the Mavs cause of KAT and ANT. Only reason they move Kat was his contract as do not want to be struck in the 2nd apron, not cause of his play. And how was it hard to predict that Randle can't play defense when he hasn't done so before, even during his contract year?

https://youtu.be/B141XFJoJvA?si=HKMY3D2YAtT8pmo5

Seems like I know more about the Wolves than you do, since everything you stated was wrong. They should have kept KAT to remain serious contenders regardless of the 2nd apron and ONLY deal with the problem if they are longer serious contenders for some reason.

It's no difference then the Celtics trading Jaylen Brown because of his 300 mil contract Lol

You’re preaching to the choir on the mistakes of the KAT trade. But you also seem to not understand much of the Wolves. The trade target was DDV. The drafting of Dilly and TSJ was to backfill the roster. Naz Reid is KAT light and when he plays for more than 30 minutes a game he shines, (seriously check the board from about 2 years ago or look for yourself using BB ref and filter games with 30+ minutes.) It is a much bigger bump than the expected bump for a playing a few more minutes. Naz also improved his defense and was quite good in the playoffs defensively (though he was inconsistent on offense with the reduced minutes.) You move on from KAT to promote Naz. Our short term needs are to promote Naz and balance the roster with a PG or C or both. If you have suggestions for doing so please share them. If you are simply here to troll with how much you hate Randle and don’t think we can move him, kindly do so on the trade board.

I was aware of Minny interest in DDV for awhile prior to the trade but will take your word on Naz as Kat light with 30+ min which I was not aware of. I dislike Randle's game but will not comment on him further unless posters continue to claim his game is better than KAT here, which is BS.

https://youtu.be/reOW4t8_cro?si=ZmZJwljCDgdgpvLM

I don’t believe he is, I don’t think people here believe he is. I think the bigger issue is that people here think KAT was not good enough/healthy enough to win a ring here. Moving KAT to free up salary follows that belief for some. I disagree and I think the wrong move was made. I am a big KAT fan and wanted him to be here this year. The question is what happens on the next move assuming the plan is to move Randle by the deadline?

[Klomp]

It feels like you are excusing both players for their decline this year, and just blaming Randle as a scapegoat with a handwaving, “well somehow, he must be suppressing their games!” Moving Randle isn’t going to make Naz increase his rebounding percentage or get better looks for three’s he’s missing, or cause Mike to turn into a 32 year old again.

There is probably some suppression happening. However, I think there needs to be some admission that Randle has been suppressed as well.

But that doesn't have to be a bad thing. All great teams have players whose skill sets were suppressed. Interestingly, many of these players eventually get placed into the sixth man role because their scoring gravity can be magnified playing with the second unit. It's easy to say "great, put Julius there", but that also puts Naz into a more suppressed role if he's bumped to the starting lineup. Reid's effectiveness and efficiency went down as a starter last year. His shooting percentage went down 2 percent, and his true shooting dropped by 3 percent. That's despite his usage actually going up with the starters.

[Klomp]

I don’t believe he is, I don’t think people here believe he is. I think the bigger issue is that people here think KAT was not good enough/healthy enough to win a ring here. Moving KAT to free up salary follows that belief for some. I disagree and I think the wrong move was made. I am a big KAT fan and wanted him to be here this year. The question is what happens on the next move assuming the plan is to move Randle by the deadline?

I think we are getting closer to the root of the issue, from both sides.

You don't think Towns was the problem. I don't think he was the solution. Is paying $50 million plus wise for someone who was not the solution? I don't think Randle is the solution either. That's kinda the point.

I think this was always going to be a transition year. We've seen the volatility of the Western Conference. One year down doesn't mean you have to stay down. But you have to be able to make moves. It hurts in the short term, but that trade was not made for 2024-25.

[shrink]

I dislike Randle's game but will not comment on him further unless posters continue to claim his game is better than KAT here, which is BS.

Thank God you’re here to protect us from something no one is saying!

So I guess we won’t be hearing more from you on Randle, with your self-imposed silence.

[WentzerWuver]

I dislike Randle's game but will not comment on him further unless posters continue to claim his game is better than KAT here, which is BS.

Thank God you’re here to protect us from something no one is saying!

So I guess we won’t be hearing more from you on Randle, with your self-imposed silence.

You are obviously a Randy lover praising your highness over KAT. By commenting on this post shows you cannot stop gushing about him and hope it will continue. It ends now so we don't have to read all your of bs comments like...

"Julius was even playing hard defense against Wemby last game!"

https://youtube.com/shorts/9ztYQsb4B68?si=gAhg4BkXe1dk7GGx

[shrink]

I dislike Randle's game but will not comment on him further unless posters continue to claim his game is better than KAT here, which is BS.

Thank God you’re here to protect us from something no one is saying!

So I guess we won’t be hearing more from you on Randle, with your self-imposed silence.

You are obviously a Randy lover praising your highness over KAT. My commenting on this post shows tyou cannot stop talking about him and the discussion to continue. It ends now instead of making bs comment on your idol.

"Julius was even playing hard defense against Wemby last game! If fans stop scapegoating him for every Wolves’ issue"

You’re a joke. That statement does not “continue to claim his game is better than KAT!” Your words.

If you think that’s the same, you’re an idiot. If you don’t think so, but post anyway after promising you’d only post over people saying Randle was better than KAT, then you’re intentionally lying.

Whichever one you choose, you’re a joke.

[WentzerWuver]

You’re a joke. That statement does not “continue to claim his game is better than KAT!” Your words.

If you think that’s the same, you’re an idiot. If you don’t think so, but post anyway after promising you’d only post over people saying Randle was better than KAT, then you’re intentionally lying.

Whichever you choose, you’re a joke.

Most of your past comments were but will not post anymore quotes since it would make you look bad...

https://youtube.com/shorts/t5Gnh8Fa8Ts?si=Koz943u_NknpHlqD

[shrink]

You are obviously a Randy lover praising your highness over KAT. My commenting on this post shows tyou cannot stop talking about him and the discussion to continue. It ends now instead of making bs comment on your idol.

"Julius was even playing hard defense against Wemby last game! If fans stop scapegoating him for every Wolves’ issue"

You’re a joke. That statement does not “continue to claim his game is better than KAT!” Your words.

If you think that’s the same, you’re an idiot. If you don’t think so, but post anyway after promising you’d only post over people saying Randle was better than KAT, then you’re intentionally lying.

Whichever you choose, you’re a joke.

You’re a joke. That statement does not “continue to claim his game is better than KAT!” Your words.

If you think that’s the same, you’re an idiot. If you don’t think so, but post anyway after promising you’d only post over people saying Randle was better than KAT, then you’re intentionally lying.

Whichever you choose, you’re a joke.

That was your quote Lol

(I’m sure this is a waste of time, but I’ll consider it my public service for the day.)

Nearly all your posts here have the same format. They rarely contain any evidence, they insult people, and then you link to a YouTube clip (and you still haven’t figured out how to do that in RealGM format).

This is not a children’s board, and you can make positive contributions if you truly want to. Be honest. Support your opinions with evidence. If you disagree that “Julius was even playing hard defense against Wemby,” explain why you think that, and support your position. Different viewpoints make the boards interesting! Simply insulting people rather than making your case is bad posting, is not worth anyone’s time here, and it reveals more about you than your position.

[shrink]

You’re a joke. That statement does not “continue to claim his game is better than KAT!” Your words.

If you think that’s the same, you’re an idiot. If you don’t think so, but post anyway after promising you’d only post over people saying Randle was better than KAT, then you’re intentionally lying.

Whichever you choose, you’re a joke.

Most of your past comments were but will not post anymore quotes since it would make you look bad...

https://youtube.com/shorts/t5Gnh8Fa8Ts?si=Koz943u_NknpHlqD

Dude, you continue to make my point. Stop digging.

“Most of my posts” say “Randle was better than KAT?” That’s a lie. I don’t feel that way at all, and I defy you to even show ONE post where I said that.

Again, you are either intentionally lying, or you don’t know none of them say that, and you’re an idiot.

[WentzerWuver]

Nearly all your posts here have the same format. They rarely contain any evidence, they insult people, and then you link to a YouTube clip (and you still haven’t figured out how to do that in RealGM format).

This is not a children’s board, and you can make positive contributions if you truly want to. Be honest. Support your opinions with evidence. If you disagree that “Julius was even playing hard defense against Wemby,” explain why you think that, and support your position. Different viewpoints make the boards interesting! Simply insulting people rather than making your case is bad posting, is not worth anyone’s time here, and it reveals more about you than your position.

I will not post on this board anymore regardless, so good day.

[Klomp]

I was just listening to Dane Moore's show today, and they referred to Randle's line from Monday as a 76ers Ben Simmons line....that kind of stuck out to me, because Finch and Randle have repeatedly talked about how they want to play differently from how he played in New York. After the Simmons name drop, the name that actually came to mind for me was Lamar Odom. I think that role makes sense for Julius, and I think that in that role Randle might be able to come more affordably.

Something to think about too....teams don't have much cap space this summer. I don't know that any $40 million offers will be out there if he opts out. Honestly, I'm not sure many $30 million offers will be there. So that might be to our advantage in some ways. What if he sits out there on the market without offers higher than say the MLE? We already have heard we might be able to afford to re-sign NAW, Naz AND an MLE contract....what if Randle became that MLE? Or are we all at a point where we want him off the team no matter what? It feels like the bigger fear is that he will cost the team NAW or Naz, but there's a chance that it's not the case.

[wolves_89]

I was just listening to Dane Moore's show today, and they referred to Randle's line from Monday as a 76ers Ben Simmons line....that kind of stuck out to me, because Finch and Randle have repeatedly talked about how they want to play differently from how he played in New York. After the Simmons name drop, the name that actually came to mind for me was Lamar Odom. I think that role makes sense for Julius, and I think that in that role Randle might be able to come more affordably.

Something to think about too....teams don't have much cap space this summer. I don't know that any $40 million offers will be out there if he opts out. Honestly, I'm not sure many $30 million offers will be there. So that might be to our advantage in some ways. What if he sits out there on the market without offers higher than say the MLE? We already have heard we might be able to afford to re-sign NAW, Naz AND an MLE contract....what if Randle became that MLE? Or are we all at a point where we want him off the team no matter what? It feels like the bigger fear is that he will cost the team NAW or Naz, but there's a chance that it's not the case.

I remember listening to one of the big name NBA podcasts where they talked about Randle and how they thought $100M/3 years would have been a reasonable offer from the Knicks, but now Julius might be lucky to get $60M/3 years. I'd be tempted to offer that as an extension if Randle would opt out of his player option, at that number the Wolves could re-sign both Naz and NAW. The only potential issue would be that Julius would probably have to accept a super sixth man role (a move Finch should have already made).

[BlacJacMac]

I was just listening to Dane Moore's show today, and they referred to Randle's line from Monday as a 76ers Ben Simmons line....that kind of stuck out to me, because Finch and Randle have repeatedly talked about how they want to play differently from how he played in New York. After the Simmons name drop, the name that actually came to mind for me was Lamar Odom. I think that role makes sense for Julius, and I think that in that role Randle might be able to come more affordably.

Something to think about too....teams don't have much cap space this summer. I don't know that any $40 million offers will be out there if he opts out. Honestly, I'm not sure many $30 million offers will be there. So that might be to our advantage in some ways. What if he sits out there on the market without offers higher than say the MLE? We already have heard we might be able to afford to re-sign NAW, Naz AND an MLE contract....what if Randle became that MLE? Or are we all at a point where we want him off the team no matter what? It feels like the bigger fear is that he will cost the team NAW or Naz, but there's a chance that it's not the case.

I'm really not that concerned with losing NAW.

I know its easy to say while he's stinking up January, but he seems like the type of rotation player that gets shuffled around the key guys, not becomes one of them.