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June 26-27, 2024 - Draft Days Thread (second round starts 3 pm)

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Re: June 26-27, 2024 - Draft Days Thread 

Post#321 » by shrink » Thu Jun 27, 2024 6:39 pm

younggunsmn wrote:53 pisses off a whole bunch of powerful people, including the agent of the guy we just drafted at 8.

Seems more likely if McHale was still GM!
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Re: June 26-27, 2024 - Draft Days Thread 

Post#322 » by KGdaBom » Thu Jun 27, 2024 6:41 pm

younggunsmn wrote:
Nick K wrote:
Klomp wrote:
Read on Twitter


This has Bronny written all over it if the interest is genuine, given some of the steam we've heard previously. Justin Edwards is another intriguing "former top prospect" option.


This is a solid move Klomp. Jr. had no future here anyway. I wish him well.


I'm gonna miss Klomp Jr, he had potential.

That was a long time ago. I'd say he's washed up now :lol:
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Re: June 26-27, 2024 - Draft Days Thread 

Post#323 » by cmoss84 » Thu Jun 27, 2024 6:43 pm

Bronny going to Warriors at #52. Then Bronny and Steph to Lakers.
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Re: June 26-27, 2024 - Draft Days Thread 

Post#324 » by gandlogo » Thu Jun 27, 2024 6:45 pm

Love the draft for the Wolves so far. Got quicker, faster, more athletic, more scoring, more shooting - all things lacking from a team that trots out two sedentary seven-footers. It's a perimeter league and at times the Wolves were anything but that. Would love to see a second unit with Rob, NAW, Shannon, SloMo, and Naz. Get out and let it fly.
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Re: June 26-27, 2024 - Draft Days Thread 

Post#325 » by Nick K » Thu Jun 27, 2024 7:00 pm

younggunsmn wrote:
Nick K wrote:
Klomp wrote:
Read on Twitter


This has Bronny written all over it if the interest is genuine, given some of the steam we've heard previously. Justin Edwards is another intriguing "former top prospect" option.


This is a solid move Klomp. Jr. had no future here anyway. I wish him well.


I'm gonna miss Klomp Jr, he had potential.


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Re: June 26, 2024 - Draft Day Thread 

Post#326 » by Nick K » Thu Jun 27, 2024 7:05 pm

Nick K wrote:
KGdaBom wrote:
DaMplsKid wrote:Looking at our roster right now. I think we need to add a big ( Forward, Center). Also, not sure we want another young guy on the roster so could see us taking a European Stash type of pick too.

Bobi Klintman might have the most upside and fits both scenarios above.

Adem Bona really like what he could bring to our big rotation.

Jonathan Mogho could be a Kyle Anderson but faster and explosive. The level of comp is a issue.

Ulrich Chomche a lot like Bona just taller and not as muscular. But you have the option to leave him over seas to develop.

Bona is supposed to be the next Ben Wallace. I'd be ok with that.


I just looked at Bona for the fist time and I'd take him in a heartbeat! He could be a defensive anchor. Love the call!


Hey look at this KGdaBom, on Bona.....

From Drew Wolin 6/2/24

"Strengths: 6’10 athletic big man … Great size and length with a 7’4 wingspan. Big frame and strength level. Aggressive and likes to bang … Very good athlete and great mobility. Finishes above the rim and reliable lob target/finisher. Explosive while absorbing contact – body to body. Good spin move in the paint. Comfortable dunking with either hand … Efficient scorer. Scoring stats: 10.1 PPG 68.1% FG% Grind Session 2020-21, 11.5 PPG 78.4% FG% Nike EYBL 2021, 7.5 PPG 3rd best 70.4% FG% NBPA Top 100 2021, 8.4 PPG 2nd best 66.7% FG% U19 World Cup 2021, 11.1 PPG 70.1% FG% Grind Session 2021-22, 17 PPG 66.2% FG% U20 Euro Championship A 2022 … Quick first step for someone his size. Consistently runs the floor and beats his man up the court … Very tough cover on his aggressive drives. Led the U20 Euro Championship A in free throw attempts with 6.9 per game in 2022 … Passes well out of the post and does a good job not putting up a quick shot after offensive rebounds. Can pass on the move and mid-drive when attacking … Defends the post well and shows some ability to move his feet and defend on the perimeter. Good timing and covers a lot of ground as a shot blocker and contests what he doesn’t get a hand on. Shot blocking stats: 1.4 BPG Grind Session 2020-21, 3.5 BPG Nike EYBL 2021, 4th best 1.2 BPG NBPA Top 100 2021, 1.9 BPG U19 World Cup 2021, 2nd best 2.5 BPG Grind Session 2021-22. 1st 2.4 BPG U20 Euro Championship A 2022 … Very good rebounder on both ends. Consistently boxes his man out. Quick to loose balls. Averaged 11.8 rebounds per game over the Nike EYBL in 2021 and led the U20 Euro Championship A with 10.9 rebounds (4th best 3.4 offensive) per game in 2022 … Alert … Willing screener, dangerous slipping to the basket … Good motor and constantly moving, doesn’t just sit in the post or quit on plays …"

UCLA freshman … 2022 McDonald’s All-American.
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A friend of mine said I'd bet he goes in the 30's. :(
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Re: June 26-27, 2024 - Draft Days Thread 

Post#327 » by BlacJacMac » Thu Jun 27, 2024 7:23 pm

cmoss84 wrote:Bronny going to Warriors at #52. Then Bronny and Steph to Lakers.


For who, AD?
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Re: June 26-27, 2024 - Draft Days Thread 

Post#328 » by Nick K » Thu Jun 27, 2024 7:23 pm

Something more from Espn + on our draft.

Givony's biggest winners from Round 1

Minnesota Timberwolves
The pick: Rob Dillingham (No. 8 via trade)

The Timberwolves made the most aggressive move of Round 1 by trading into the No. 8 spot to draft Dillingham. With starter Mike Conley turning 37 years old, president of basketball operations Tim Connelly knew he needed to be aggressive in finding the veteran point guard's successor. With Dillingham, Connelly has his own version of Kyrie Irving, who knocked the Timberwolves out of the playoffs in the Western Conference finals.

Dillingham is lightning in a bottle, ranking not only as one of the best scorers in this draft class already as a freshman, but also as an underrated passer who brings real creativity passing off a live dribble, a skill that he can continue to hone as his pro career moves forward. The fact he showed he can play off the ball, making 44% of his 3-pointers this season, will help him operate alongside a budding superstar in Anthony Edwards.

His biggest weakness, his defense, could be negated to an extent with NBA Defensive Player of the Year Rudy Gobert behind him.

What was your favorite trade of Round 1?
Woo: Minnesota trading a 2031 unprotected first and 2030 top-one-protected pick swap to San Antonio for Rob Dillingham. It's way too early to say which team won this deal, but I loved the gutsiness from the Timberwolves to punt significant future draft capital to land a player who could be a dynamic backcourt partner for Anthony Edwards.

It's certainly a high-risk allocation of what significant draft capital the Wolves had left, but they have the defensive infrastructure to theoretically cover for Dillingham's lack of impact on that end. I also liked this decision for the Spurs, who acquired two valuable trade chips that will likely come in handy when San Antonio eventually decides to pursue another star to pair with Victor Wembanyama.

I have no idea who's going to come out looking better in this deal, but I mostly just love that it happened.

Which title contender helped itself the most?
Pelton: Minnesota Timberwolves

We'll see how well giving up a swap in 2030 and an unprotected pick in 2031 will work out for the Timberwolves, but unquestionably Rob Dillingham is the most talented player any title contender added on draft night, and I think he can help them off the bench as a rookie.
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Re: June 26-27, 2024 - Draft Days Thread 

Post#329 » by KATKlownFeet » Thu Jun 27, 2024 7:34 pm

gandlogo wrote:Love the draft for the Wolves so far. Got quicker, faster, more athletic, more scoring, more shooting - all things lacking from a team that trots out two sedentary seven-footers. It's a perimeter league and at times the Wolves were anything but that. Would love to see a second unit with Rob, NAW, Shannon, SloMo, and Naz. Get out and let it fly.


But they would be brutal defensively, so they need to score a lot just to break even.
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Re: June 26-27, 2024 - Draft Days Thread 

Post#330 » by moss_is_1 » Thu Jun 27, 2024 7:42 pm

Us scouting Bronny earlier in the draft process makes a lot more sense now after the Moore deal to get #53. I'd be fine with it. He's got the measurables and bloodlines.

Otherwise I'm on board for a project center, or draft and stash like Nunez, Djurisic. Even just a flier on a shooter like Antonio Reeves.
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Re: June 26-27, 2024 - Draft Days Thread 

Post#331 » by gandlogo » Thu Jun 27, 2024 7:43 pm

KATKlownFeet wrote:
gandlogo wrote:Love the draft for the Wolves so far. Got quicker, faster, more athletic, more scoring, more shooting - all things lacking from a team that trots out two sedentary seven-footers. It's a perimeter league and at times the Wolves were anything but that. Would love to see a second unit with Rob, NAW, Shannon, SloMo, and Naz. Get out and let it fly.


But they would be brutal defensively, so they need to score a lot just to break even.


Disagree. SloMo and NAW anchor it. Shannon has the build, athleticism, and tenacity to be solid on defense (plus he's an older player from a physical basketball conference). And the reality is they are guarding mostly bench players in that situation (especially during the regular season), which typically lack the offensive skills of starters. As long as they commit to 4-5 guys rebounding, I'd much rather watch that unit - with five guys capable of handling the ball - than slow-footed bricklayers. But to each their own.
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Re: June 26, 2024 - Draft Day Thread 

Post#332 » by KGdaBom » Thu Jun 27, 2024 7:49 pm

Nick K wrote:
Nick K wrote:
KGdaBom wrote:Bona is supposed to be the next Ben Wallace. I'd be ok with that.


I just looked at Bona for the fist time and I'd take him in a heartbeat! He could be a defensive anchor. Love the call!


Hey look at this KGdaBom, on Bona.....

From Drew Wolin 6/2/24

"Strengths: 6’10 athletic big man … Great size and length with a 7’4 wingspan. Big frame and strength level. Aggressive and likes to bang … Very good athlete and great mobility. Finishes above the rim and reliable lob target/finisher. Explosive while absorbing contact – body to body. Good spin move in the paint. Comfortable dunking with either hand … Efficient scorer. Scoring stats: 10.1 PPG 68.1% FG% Grind Session 2020-21, 11.5 PPG 78.4% FG% Nike EYBL 2021, 7.5 PPG 3rd best 70.4% FG% NBPA Top 100 2021, 8.4 PPG 2nd best 66.7% FG% U19 World Cup 2021, 11.1 PPG 70.1% FG% Grind Session 2021-22, 17 PPG 66.2% FG% U20 Euro Championship A 2022 … Quick first step for someone his size. Consistently runs the floor and beats his man up the court … Very tough cover on his aggressive drives. Led the U20 Euro Championship A in free throw attempts with 6.9 per game in 2022 … Passes well out of the post and does a good job not putting up a quick shot after offensive rebounds. Can pass on the move and mid-drive when attacking … Defends the post well and shows some ability to move his feet and defend on the perimeter. Good timing and covers a lot of ground as a shot blocker and contests what he doesn’t get a hand on. Shot blocking stats: 1.4 BPG Grind Session 2020-21, 3.5 BPG Nike EYBL 2021, 4th best 1.2 BPG NBPA Top 100 2021, 1.9 BPG U19 World Cup 2021, 2nd best 2.5 BPG Grind Session 2021-22. 1st 2.4 BPG U20 Euro Championship A 2022 … Very good rebounder on both ends. Consistently boxes his man out. Quick to loose balls. Averaged 11.8 rebounds per game over the Nike EYBL in 2021 and led the U20 Euro Championship A with 10.9 rebounds (4th best 3.4 offensive) per game in 2022 … Alert … Willing screener, dangerous slipping to the basket … Good motor and constantly moving, doesn’t just sit in the post or quit on plays …"

UCLA freshman … 2022 McDonald’s All-American.
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A friend of mine said I'd bet he goes in the 30's. :(

Yep. I don't think we get him at 53.
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Re: June 26-27, 2024 - Draft Days Thread 

Post#333 » by Neeva » Thu Jun 27, 2024 8:04 pm

:pray: Please Djurisic at 53
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Re: June 26-27, 2024 - Draft Days Thread 

Post#334 » by moss_is_1 » Thu Jun 27, 2024 8:07 pm

Thunder trade for 52. They're taking Bronny and singing LeBron.
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Re: June 26-27, 2024 - Draft Days Thread 

Post#335 » by Neeva » Thu Jun 27, 2024 8:14 pm

:lol: The Jameses will never wanna live in Oklahoma
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Re: June 26-27, 2024 - Draft Days Thread 

Post#336 » by Klomp » Thu Jun 27, 2024 8:17 pm

Nick K wrote:Hey check this out on Shannon from an Illinois poster who knows. This is good. Hold on to your hat!

Canis comment:

poppopwow
"I watched virtually every minute of Shannon's career at Illinois-you guys don't realize just what you're getting. He's a blur on offense-just outstanding on the break. Very aggressive driver and draws a lot of fouls. Was the best defender on the team-always guarded the other team's best backcourt player. Most of all, tremendous character-goes to the gym at 4:30 in the morning most days. I saw a couple of people here refer to him as 'selfish'-nothing could be further from the truth. An absolutely humble, team player. He actually declined to come in one game because his back-up was playing so well. He might have seemed selfish because he was the focus of the offense but that was his coach's decision. They didn't run any plays for him-just gave him the ball and trusted that he would make the correct decision. He's the kind of player that fans fall in love with, which is why you're going to inherit virtually the entire Illinois fan base, one of the most passionate (annoying?) fan bases of them all. I'm certainly going to watch all of your games."
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How about that? I'm stoked!!!

Worth noting that one positive note Vecenie noted was how well he plays in a free-flowing offense. Well that kinda describes our offense to a T....
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Re: June 26-27, 2024 - Draft Days Thread 

Post#337 » by Klomp » Thu Jun 27, 2024 8:19 pm

younggunsmn wrote:
Nick K wrote:This is a solid move Klomp. Jr. had no future here anyway. I wish him well.


I'm gonna miss Klomp Jr, he had potential.

This has definite sig potential, but I don't know which of my current ones to remove....
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Re: June 26-27, 2024 - Draft Days Thread 

Post#338 » by Neeva » Thu Jun 27, 2024 8:26 pm

Looks like Kessler will be replaced by Filipowski already.
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Re: June 26-27, 2024 - Draft Days Thread 

Post#339 » by shrink » Thu Jun 27, 2024 8:27 pm

Neeva wrote:Looks like Kessler will be replaced by Filipowski already.

I’m a little surprised he was still available.

Nice draft for the Jazz: Cody Williams, Collier, Filipowski is a pretty good haul
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Re: June 26-27, 2024 - Draft Days Thread (second round starts 3 pm) 

Post#340 » by Klomp » Thu Jun 27, 2024 8:39 pm

Kolek is such a Thibs pick
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