Prospect Watch Thread

cpfsf · Post #341 » by **cpfsf** » Mon Jan 31, 2011 10:42 pm

I was looking into Renardo Sidney, but that guy appears to be an uncoachable player that will drag the team down. Another player with wasted potential, but I don't feel any sympathy for him.

moss_is_1 · Post #342 » by **moss_is_1** » Tue Feb 1, 2011 1:24 am

Klomp wrote:Kyle Weaver anyone?

I still think he could be a good defender in the NBA. Not sure if he has anything to offer offensively though..

Peezo · Post #343 » by **Peezo** » Tue Feb 1, 2011 1:45 am

I'm with Twolves98 that I would like to see us take Jimmer Fredette. Sounds crazy to me because I really want to see us improve defensively, but I think he is very similar to Steph Curry. He is a decent athlete (like Curry) but I think people are afraid he won't be able to play because he is white. He gets compared to Morrison, but I don't know why. I think he could fill in that hole at 2 pretty nicely.

Peezo · Post #344 » by **Peezo** » Tue Feb 1, 2011 1:48 am

I know he really projects as a 1, but I don't think that is where he ends up playing.

Grits n Gravy · Post #345 » by **Grits n Gravy** » Tue Feb 1, 2011 3:38 am

Peezo wrote:I know he really projects as a 1, but I don't think that is where he ends up playing.

there's absolutely no way he is a 2 imo, even for 5 minutes there he will be absolutely manhandled on defense..i like him a lot and if he could grow some pg skills he would be really good, in the triangle it's not that important to have a traditional set up man point guard so i think he'd fit really well here.

Post #346 » by **Worm Guts** » Tue Feb 1, 2011 4:05 pm

Peezo wrote:I'm with Twolves98 that I would like to see us take Jimmer Fredette. Sounds crazy to me because I really want to see us improve defensively, but I think he is very similar to Steph Curry. He is a decent athlete (like Curry) but I think people are afraid he won't be able to play because he is white. He gets compared to Morrison, but I don't know why. I think he could fill in that hole at 2 pretty nicely.

At his size, if he's going to succeed it's going to be at point guard.

Post #347 » by **revprodeji** » Tue Feb 1, 2011 5:32 pm

Yes. Skill-wise he fits the token back-up triangle Fisher type PG. But do we want two rookie pg with Fredette and Rubio?

Do we carry 3 PG with Rubio, Fredette and Ridnour to mentor?

OKC has done it with two young pg.

Twolves98 · Post #348 » by **Twolves98** » Wed Feb 2, 2011 9:40 pm

Who here has actually seen Fredette play? If you have and still disagree that he wouldn't work with this team. Then thats your opinion, but don't just look at his stats.

moss_is_1 · Post #349 » by **moss_is_1** » Wed Feb 2, 2011 10:06 pm

Barnes had another good game yesterday. I'd still take him at #3, maybe even 2(Perry Jones/Irving).

Piecake · Post #350 » by **Piecake** » Wed Feb 2, 2011 10:30 pm

moss_is_1 wrote:Barnes had another good game yesterday. I'd still take him at #3, maybe even 2(Perry Jones/Irving).

Isnt Barnes a SF though? If he can't play SG, I really dont see why we take him unless the drop off from him to the next player is significant. We already have way too many SFs on this team

Post #351 » by **Klomp** » Wed Feb 2, 2011 11:44 pm

Yeah, I'm not so sure that Barnes can defend SGs. Honestly, I wonder if Jones would even have a better time defending them than Barnes.

Vindicater · Post #352 » by **Vindicater** » Thu Feb 3, 2011 5:41 am

These are three guys I think we could grab with our different picks.

Our Pick - Perry Jones

His combination of size, speed and athletic ability make him a rare breed of animal at the 4/5 spot. I think he would work very well next to Love and would give us the athletic force on the frontlin we sorely lack at the moment.

Memphis Pick - Jordan Hamilton

A player similar to Wesley Johnson but without the star potential in my view. He is the type of player Khan and Ronzone like and as much as I hate him, I think he would fit Rambis's style of coaching. Could be a good shooter off the bench in the right situation.

Utahs Pick - Josh Selby

I think he will stay another year of college, but if he does come out he will fall to the early 20's due to questions about his maturity and mindset. If he falls to the Utah pick he will be a steal. He is a super talented scorer and could become a Vinnie Johnson/Jason Terry type scoring off guard off the bench. I think if Rubio proves he can guard the opoonents best guard that Selby could work great as a backourt pairing with him.

moss_is_1 · Post #353 » by **moss_is_1** » Thu Feb 3, 2011 6:49 pm

Piecake wrote:
moss_is_1 wrote:Barnes had another good game yesterday. I'd still take him at #3, maybe even 2(Perry Jones/Irving).

Isnt Barnes a SF though? If he can't play SG, I really dont see why we take him unless the drop off from him to the next player is significant. We already have way too many SFs on this team

I think he's a sg/sf type. He was compared to Kobe afterall. He seems kinda like Joe Johnson to me, really smooth..

Piecake · Post #354 » by **Piecake** » Thu Feb 3, 2011 8:08 pm

moss_is_1 wrote:
Piecake wrote:
moss_is_1 wrote:Barnes had another good game yesterday. I'd still take him at #3, maybe even 2(Perry Jones/Irving).

Isnt Barnes a SF though? If he can't play SG, I really dont see why we take him unless the drop off from him to the next player is significant. We already have way too many SFs on this team

I think he's a sg/sf type. He was compared to Kobe afterall. He seems kinda like Joe Johnson to me, really smooth..

A less athletic Kobe, which is the key point here. I don't think he has the quickness to guard SGs.

shangrila · Post #355 » by **shangrila** » Thu Feb 3, 2011 10:29 pm

Athletically I think he's a sneaky athlete, like Roy. Combined with his length and height I think he would be fine at the 2, apart from the ones like Monta.

Vindicater · Post #356 » by **Vindicater** » Sun Feb 13, 2011 11:00 pm

These are three guys that interest me at the moment.

Perry Jones

There are questions over his toughness and energy level but his offensive skills around the basket are just so dangerous that he would fit in well here. I am unsure how he would fit with Love at this stage because his defence is a weakness right now but he has the athletic ability and skills to become a good defender so in a perfect world he develops into a good help side defender who could be paired with Love at times at the 4/5 position. I just think his offensive upside is too good to pass up if we get the chance.

Jeff Taylor

A very strong wing player who has the ability to guard the 2/3 and in some cases the 4. His offensive game lacks alot of options at the moment but his defensive attitude and ability make him a solid pick in the mid first round. For a team lacking good wing defenders he would be an asset.

Josh Selby

I have been watching him all season and I think he has the ability to be that sparkplug scoring guard off the bench we really need. He is small which is a problem and he is not a point guard either, but he is dynamite with the ball in his hands and surprinsgly strong when guarding people bigger than him. I think he has the ability to be that Nate Robinson type of sprakplug off the bench for a good team.

moss_is_1 · Post #357 » by **moss_is_1** » Mon Feb 14, 2011 1:18 am

I hope it'll go something like this(assuming we keep all 3 picks).

1.Barnes or Perry Jones
2.Burks if Jones,Vessley if Barnes, Maybe Thomas Robinson from KU if we take Barnes and don't get anthony randolph..

Robinson is a really good defender, great nba body, great athlete(somewhat like Serge Ibaka), and a really good rebounder. He may not come out with him not even starting, but if he does he could be someone to take a chance on late, especially with the weak class.

bluethunder0005 · Post #358 » by **bluethunder0005** » Mon Feb 14, 2011 1:59 am

I think Irving and Jones are the most likely to become superstars at the next level. I personally hope Barnes can pick up his play and position himself to be worth of picking in the top 5 like he was predicted to be.

AQuintus · Post #359 » by **AQuintus** » Mon Feb 14, 2011 3:32 am

At this point I would trade away the two later picks (and it's sounding like the FO might do this) and take Irving with our pick, and if Irving isn't there, I would trade our pick away too. Perry Jones and Jonas V are probably the only other guys I would really be interested in out of this draft, and Jones plays beyond soft on defense (DX did a great article on Jones' strengths and weaknesses lately) and from the very little I've seen of Jonas V, he is extremely skinny, plays low low minutes, and gets by big time on his length (almost all of his blocks and dunks in his highlight videos involve him barely getting off the ground).

moss_is_1 · Post #360 » by **moss_is_1** » Mon Feb 14, 2011 3:36 am

AQuintus wrote:At this point I would trade away the two later picks (and it's sounding like the FO might do this) and take Irving with our pick, and if Irving isn't there, I would trade our pick away too. Perry Jones and Jonas V are probably the only other guys I would really be interested in out of this draft, and Jones plays beyond soft on defense (DX did a great article on Jones' strengths and weaknesses lately) and from the very little I've seen of Jonas V, he is extremely skinny, plays low low minutes, and gets by big time on his length (almost all of his blocks and dunks in his highlight videos involve him barely getting off the ground).

I would add Barnes to that list if he keeps playing well.

Perry Jones could also be taken out of the picture if we get Anthony Randolph, since we won't need an athlete in the frontcourt.