Butler has requested a trade, the saga continues

[mplsfonz23]

Is Jimmy the new Christian Lattener?
Loser...Loser...Loser.....Winner?

[Dalvin]

What he did was conduct detrimental to the team (to the franchise actually). He should be suspended or at least fined for doing that.

[KG_Wolves]

“I run this ****,” Butler howled, according to several people in the practice facility. Some players laughed. Jimmy being Jimmy. Others in the building were concerned, wondering how Thibodeau and Layden could stand for that kind of conduct, sources said

Gimme this over a boy scout loser like Wes Johnson or Jonny Flynn

[KG_Wolves]

What he did was conduct detrimental to the team (to the franchise actually). He should be suspended or at least fined for doing that.

He probably raised this POS franchises value yesterday

[AirP.]

“I run this ****,” Butler howled, according to several people in the practice facility. Some players laughed. Jimmy being Jimmy. Others in the building were concerned, wondering how Thibodeau and Layden could stand for that kind of conduct, sources said

Did this never happened before? It's like everyone has selective memory. Did KG nevery do anything like this? I do believe he did under the great Flip Saunders. It happens all the time, you just don't hear about it unless someone has an agenda against someone, then it leaks out.

The tension boiled over during a November 2000 practice, when Szczerbiak reportedly got picked off and chided Garnett to call out the screens. KG responded curtly, "Play some defense," the pickoff seemingly a consequence for whatever expectation Szczerbiak wasn't meeting defensively. Szczerbiak took exception. It accelerated into a shouting match, which spilled into the training room. Punches were thrown. Ask Szczerbiak about it today and he says he was simply a young player trying to stick up for himself. "I felt like I had some leadership qualities," he says. "I'm not a guy who will take a back seat all the time, and in certain scenarios I'm going to speak up for what's right. At times it definitely got me in trouble."

Worth noting: the fact that Szczerbiak and Garnett played six-plus seasons together and were teammates in the 2002 All-Star Game. "We figured it out," Szczerbiak says.

Here's a great one, but it's about KG while in Boston...

Consider former Celtic Patrick O'Bryant, the ninth pick in the 2006 draft. Early in the 2008-09 season, O'Bryant was putting in some post work with Celtics assistant coach Clifford Ray after practice when Garnett summoned him to the other end of the floor. KG wanted to light a fire under the young center, who he felt was too placid. Garnett immediately began berating O'Bryant, criticizing him mercilessly. When O'Bryant didn't react, KG pushed harder. Still nothing. Garnett walked off the court in disgust.

It was for that reason, Ainge says, that he was careful which young players he entrusted to Garnett -- and why Minnesota's plan might be less than foolproof. Sometimes a player came in, Ainge says, "and it was a little scary to have KG around him. His work ethic was unquestioned, but he could be intimidating -- and destructive -- if the player didn't respond in the right way."

http://www.espn.com.au/nba/story/_/id/14172961/the-cruel-tutelage-kevin-garnett

It's weird... Thibs was a coach of KGs in Boston, it's almost like he's seen how this type of behavior before and how destructive or non destructive it can be.

[Ethomasp31]

What does Butler want? More money? GT would have offered him the max (5 years $190 million) next year. A better team? Like many of you have mentioned, they were on pace to win 54 games last year which would have given them the 3rd seed in the West if had played all 82 games. Does he think he is going to play on a better team with Miami? Or even worse NJ, the Knicks or the Clippers? Our starting 5 was one of the best in the league last year. There is something else going on here guys and we can all guess what it is....but I doubt anyone knows.

A leader would be about helping his young teammates improve...because Butler's best chance at winning big is in Minnesota, unless he signs a discount to play for the Warriors. My guess is that Jimmy's stunt yesterday is going to cost him millions of dollars, because no one is going to want to give a 30 year-old a 5 year max contract when he has shown the team isn't as important as Jimmy.

[mplsfonz23]

“I run this ****,” Butler howled, according to several people in the practice facility. Some players laughed. Jimmy being Jimmy. Others in the building were concerned, wondering how Thibodeau and Layden could stand for that kind of conduct, sources said

Gimme this over a boy scout loser like Wes Johnson or Jonny Flynn

Why take either?
He runs this?
Well I don't think I would want ANY player "running" this team.
Why do some act like this is what we need?
He's shown you thru his actions that this is a destructive pattern. That kind of behavior doesn't help ANY team win.
Or are you okay with him going against the code and venting every problem thru the media.
How would you feel if Wiggins or Towns was your son? You wouldn't have an issue with him calling your son "soft on national TV?

[Mattya]

“I run this ****,” Butler howled, according to several people in the practice facility. Some players laughed. Jimmy being Jimmy. Others in the building were concerned, wondering how Thibodeau and Layden could stand for that kind of conduct, sources said

Gimme this over a boy scout loser like Wes Johnson or Jonny Flynn

Yes because there are only two extremes. A complete jerk and total busts. Those are the only two choices and they lead to amazing success.

Whit if it were possible to find players who weren’t toxic and actually good.

[Alwaysrightguy]

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LOL.... that is awesome stuff. Exactly what Michael used to do. Woj says Jimmy grabbed the 2nd and 3rd stringers and then went out and challenged and beat the crap out of the starting lineup over and over again with himself and the bench players. After winning the last game he "dropped the mic" and walked out of the gym.

He was also verbally giving it to Scott Layden who was in the gym... probably telling him he paid the wrong guy and then going out and proving by beating the starters with just Jimmy and the 2nd and 3rd stringers. LOVE IT.

The Wolves were garbage without Butler last season and VERY good with him. There really isn't much more that needs to be said than that. Now, Jimmy just wanted to illustrate it in practice. That is Jimmy walking the walk. Not just talking the talk.

This is what Butler is. He might be a jerk, and he is, but him and Thibs are the guys you want on your side if you want to win. If you want to go back to being a Mickey Mouse organization.. jettison Thibodeau and Butler. If you want to win and build something, you should have kept those guys around instead of coddling the guys who only play one side of the floor and don't put in the work. Instead, those lazy guys get maxed out and Jimmy gets run out by prima donna, entitled players like Wiggins and KAT.

Man you said a mouthful. My cousin and I talk hoops all the time, and I told him when they traded Zach Lavine, that they should have moved Wiggins instead. Butler would have loved Zach because they are cut from the same cloth. If Butler would have pulled that on Zach in practice, I promise you Lavine would have lit his behind up. We kept the wrong player. Zach, Butler and Towns would have got it done. I'm sick that we paid Wiggins $145 million for the next 5 years.

My cousin is a basketball genius and he admitted yesterday that I was right and we should have kept Lavine.

Your cousin isn't a genious, I said the same thing that Wiggs should have been moved instead. Problem is Glen supposedly nixed that. The problem with the wolves has always been Glen and his poor decisions.
I could probably put together a top 10 list of all his f*ckups.

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[Mattya]

“I run this ****,” Butler howled, according to several people in the practice facility. Some players laughed. Jimmy being Jimmy. Others in the building were concerned, wondering how Thibodeau and Layden could stand for that kind of conduct, sources said

Did this never happened before? It's like everyone has selective memory. Did KG nevery do anything like this? I do believe he did under the great Flip Saunders. It happens all the time, you just don't hear about it unless someone has an agenda against someone, then it leaks out.

The tension boiled over during a November 2000 practice, when Szczerbiak reportedly got picked off and chided Garnett to call out the screens. KG responded curtly, "Play some defense," the pickoff seemingly a consequence for whatever expectation Szczerbiak wasn't meeting defensively. Szczerbiak took exception. It accelerated into a shouting match, which spilled into the training room. Punches were thrown. Ask Szczerbiak about it today and he says he was simply a young player trying to stick up for himself. "I felt like I had some leadership qualities," he says. "I'm not a guy who will take a back seat all the time, and in certain scenarios I'm going to speak up for what's right. At times it definitely got me in trouble."

Worth noting: the fact that Szczerbiak and Garnett played six-plus seasons together and were teammates in the 2002 All-Star Game. "We figured it out," Szczerbiak says.

Here's a great one, but it's about KG while in Boston...

Consider former Celtic Patrick O'Bryant, the ninth pick in the 2006 draft. Early in the 2008-09 season, O'Bryant was putting in some post work with Celtics assistant coach Clifford Ray after practice when Garnett summoned him to the other end of the floor. KG wanted to light a fire under the young center, who he felt was too placid. Garnett immediately began berating O'Bryant, criticizing him mercilessly. When O'Bryant didn't react, KG pushed harder. Still nothing. Garnett walked off the court in disgust.

It was for that reason, Ainge says, that he was careful which young players he entrusted to Garnett -- and why Minnesota's plan might be less than foolproof. Sometimes a player came in, Ainge says, "and it was a little scary to have KG around him. His work ethic was unquestioned, but he could be intimidating -- and destructive -- if the player didn't respond in the right way."

http://www.espn.com.au/nba/story/_/id/14172961/the-cruel-tutelage-kevin-garnett

Talk about selective memory. Can you link the video and sources that showed KG demanding a trade then doing these things in practice just so that he could talk about it to ESPN. I must have missed sports center that day.

[mplsfonz23]

“I run this ****,” Butler howled, according to several people in the practice facility. Some players laughed. Jimmy being Jimmy. Others in the building were concerned, wondering how Thibodeau and Layden could stand for that kind of conduct, sources said

Did this never happened before? It's like everyone has selective memory. Did KG nevery do anything like this? I do believe he did under the great Flip Saunders. It happens all the time, you just don't hear about it unless someone has an agenda against someone, then it leaks out.

The tension boiled over during a November 2000 practice, when Szczerbiak reportedly got picked off and chided Garnett to call out the screens. KG responded curtly, "Play some defense," the pickoff seemingly a consequence for whatever expectation Szczerbiak wasn't meeting defensively. Szczerbiak took exception. It accelerated into a shouting match, which spilled into the training room. Punches were thrown. Ask Szczerbiak about it today and he says he was simply a young player trying to stick up for himself. "I felt like I had some leadership qualities," he says. "I'm not a guy who will take a back seat all the time, and in certain scenarios I'm going to speak up for what's right. At times it definitely got me in trouble."

Worth noting: the fact that Szczerbiak and Garnett played six-plus seasons together and were teammates in the 2002 All-Star Game. "We figured it out," Szczerbiak says.

Here's a great one, but it's about KG while in Boston...

Consider former Celtic Patrick O'Bryant, the ninth pick in the 2006 draft. Early in the 2008-09 season, O'Bryant was putting in some post work with Celtics assistant coach Clifford Ray after practice when Garnett summoned him to the other end of the floor. KG wanted to light a fire under the young center, who he felt was too placid. Garnett immediately began berating O'Bryant, criticizing him mercilessly. When O'Bryant didn't react, KG pushed harder. Still nothing. Garnett walked off the court in disgust.

It was for that reason, Ainge says, that he was careful which young players he entrusted to Garnett -- and why Minnesota's plan might be less than foolproof. Sometimes a player came in, Ainge says, "and it was a little scary to have KG around him. His work ethic was unquestioned, but he could be intimidating -- and destructive -- if the player didn't respond in the right way."

http://www.espn.com.au/nba/story/_/id/14172961/the-cruel-tutelage-kevin-garnett

Nice try, but KG wanted to STAY with said team. He didn't try and force a trade. And I would have an issue with anybody who tried to destroy a teammate of mine.

But KG kept it PRIVATE and didn't run to ESPN to cry about it.

Don't try and throw KG under the bus to justify JB's actions. Also, did I mention KG is a HOF'er with a ring.

[mplsfonz23]

“I run this ****,” Butler howled, according to several people in the practice facility. Some players laughed. Jimmy being Jimmy. Others in the building were concerned, wondering how Thibodeau and Layden could stand for that kind of conduct, sources said

Did this never happened before? It's like everyone has selective memory. Did KG nevery do anything like this? I do believe he did under the great Flip Saunders. It happens all the time, you just don't hear about it unless someone has an agenda against someone, then it leaks out.

The tension boiled over during a November 2000 practice, when Szczerbiak reportedly got picked off and chided Garnett to call out the screens. KG responded curtly, "Play some defense," the pickoff seemingly a consequence for whatever expectation Szczerbiak wasn't meeting defensively. Szczerbiak took exception. It accelerated into a shouting match, which spilled into the training room. Punches were thrown. Ask Szczerbiak about it today and he says he was simply a young player trying to stick up for himself. "I felt like I had some leadership qualities," he says. "I'm not a guy who will take a back seat all the time, and in certain scenarios I'm going to speak up for what's right. At times it definitely got me in trouble."

Worth noting: the fact that Szczerbiak and Garnett played six-plus seasons together and were teammates in the 2002 All-Star Game. "We figured it out," Szczerbiak says.

Here's a great one, but it's about KG while in Boston...

Consider former Celtic Patrick O'Bryant, the ninth pick in the 2006 draft. Early in the 2008-09 season, O'Bryant was putting in some post work with Celtics assistant coach Clifford Ray after practice when Garnett summoned him to the other end of the floor. KG wanted to light a fire under the young center, who he felt was too placid. Garnett immediately began berating O'Bryant, criticizing him mercilessly. When O'Bryant didn't react, KG pushed harder. Still nothing. Garnett walked off the court in disgust.

It was for that reason, Ainge says, that he was careful which young players he entrusted to Garnett -- and why Minnesota's plan might be less than foolproof. Sometimes a player came in, Ainge says, "and it was a little scary to have KG around him. His work ethic was unquestioned, but he could be intimidating -- and destructive -- if the player didn't respond in the right way."

http://www.espn.com.au/nba/story/_/id/14172961/the-cruel-tutelage-kevin-garnett

Talk about selective memory. Can you link the video and sources that showed KG demanding a trade then doing these things in practice just so that he could talk about it to ESPN. I must have missed sports center that day.

Great minds. You just type faster.

[AirP.]

Nice try, but KG wanted to STAY with said team. He didn't try and force a trade. And I would have an issue with anybody who tried to destroy a teammate of mine.

But KG kept it PRIVATE and didn't run to ESPN to cry about it.

Don't try and throw KG under the bus to justify JB's actions. Also, did I mention KG is a HOF'er with a ring.

It was kept quiet because there was really no social media.

I'm not throwing KG under a bus, KG was incredible, I loved KG's passion, same for Butler, I'm pointing out the bias of fans who will look at 2 similar situations differently based only because of who they like or don't like.

[johnnyvann840]

How would you feel if Wiggins or Towns was your son? You wouldn't have an issue with him calling your son "soft on national TV?

LOL... this is RICH. How would you feel if they were your son? Really?

How about embarrassed?

What the hell? Now these little boys can't take being called soft? They ARE SOFT! Stop coddling them and stop this nonsense of paying them $150 MILLION and making them "promise they are going to try harder from now on". This is what Glen Taylor did with Wiggins. No wonder the kid has no motivation.

You're worried about what his parents might think? What is this Jr High School? Good Lord what is this World coming to?

[Macwolf527]

Watch on YouTube

LOL.... that is awesome stuff. Exactly what Michael used to do. Woj says Jimmy grabbed the 2nd and 3rd stringers and then went out and challenged and beat the crap out of the starting lineup over and over again with himself and the bench players. After winning the last game he "dropped the mic" and walked out of the gym.

He was also verbally giving it to Scott Layden who was in the gym... probably telling him he paid the wrong guy and then going out and proving by beating the starters with just Jimmy and the 2nd and 3rd stringers. LOVE IT.

The Wolves were garbage without Butler last season and VERY good with him. There really isn't much more that needs to be said than that. Now, Jimmy just wanted to illustrate it in practice. That is Jimmy walking the walk. Not just talking the talk.

This is what Butler is. He might be a jerk, and he is, but him and Thibs are the guys you want on your side if you want to win. If you want to go back to being a Mickey Mouse organization.. jettison Thibodeau and Butler. If you want to win and build something, you should have kept those guys around instead of coddling the guys who only play one side of the floor and don't put in the work. Instead, those lazy guys get maxed out and Jimmy gets run out by prima donna, entitled players like Wiggins and KAT.

Man you said a mouthful. My cousin and I talk hoops all the time, and I told him when they traded Zach Lavine, that they should have moved Wiggins instead. Butler would have loved Zach because they are cut from the same cloth. If Butler would have pulled that on Zach in practice, I promise you Lavine would have lit his behind up. We kept the wrong player. Zach, Butler and Towns would have got it done. I'm sick that we paid Wiggins $145 million for the next 5 years.

My cousin is a basketball genius and he admitted yesterday that I was right and we should have kept Lavine.

Your cousin isn't a genious, I said the same thing that Wiggs should have been moved instead. Problem is Glen supposedly nixed that. The problem with the wolves has always been Glen and his poor decisions.
I could probably put together a top 10 list of all his f*ckups.

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Back off my cousin! I'm not Butler, I protect my family.

[Merc_Porto]

Read on Twitter

IS ALL ABOUT THE MONEY

I know, you know, everybody knows.

[AirP.]

Talk about selective memory. Can you link the video and sources that showed KG demanding a trade then doing these things in practice just so that he could talk about it to ESPN. I must have missed sports center that day.

Great minds. You just type faster.

Why would KG want to leave, nobody talked bad about his antics, he was nearly a god in Minnesota while doing worse things then Butler's been doing, but sure, use this espn thing to shield all your bias.

[Note30]

How would you feel if Wiggins or Towns was your son? You wouldn't have an issue with him calling your son "soft on national TV?

LOL... this is RICH. How would you feel if they were your son? Really?

How about embarrassed?

What the hell? Now these little boys can't take being called soft? They ARE SOFT! Stop coddling them and stop this nonsense of paying them $150 MILLION and making them "promise they are going to try harder from now on". This is what Glen Taylor did with Wiggins. No wonder the kid has no motivation.

You're worried about what his parents might think? What is this Jr High School? Good Lord what is this World coming to?

This a lot of talk from someone who isn't in the NBA. Honestly, its easy to sit there and say that oh they are 6'8 and taller, of course they got in. If you honestly think that they are too soft to play the game, why don't you sub in and try a couple minutes.

[Mattya]

Nice try, but KG wanted to STAY with said team. He didn't try and force a trade. And I would have an issue with anybody who tried to destroy a teammate of mine.

But KG kept it PRIVATE and didn't run to ESPN to cry about it.

Don't try and throw KG under the bus to justify JB's actions. Also, did I mention KG is a HOF'er with a ring.

It was kept quiet because there was really no social media.

I'm not throwing KG under a bus, KG was incredible, I loved KG's passion, same for Butler, I'm pointing out the bias of fans who will look at 2 similar situations differently based only because of who they like or don't like.

ESPN interviews are social media now. It’s only more viral now because of social media. KG could have done the same thing Butler did yesterday. KG never gave an ESPN interview immediately after pulling this kind of garbage.

[mplsfonz23]

How would you feel if Wiggins or Towns was your son? You wouldn't have an issue with him calling your son "soft on national TV?

LOL... this is RICH. How would you feel if they were your son? Really?

How about embarrassed?

What the hell? Now these little boys can't take being called soft? They ARE SOFT! Stop coddling them and stop this nonsense of paying them $150 MILLION and making them "promise they are going to try harder from now on". This is what Glen Taylor did with Wiggins. No wonder the kid has no motivation.

You're worried about what his parents might think? What is this Jr High School? Good Lord what is this World coming to?

Classless. But defend that POS if you want. I want a LEADER on my team not a B*TCH!
Wiggins looks more mature for NOT going public. But since Butler was tossed from his home as a child, he could care less about others families considering his own Mom didn't want him ruining the home.