The Jarrett Culver Thread

[Magoose]

Haven't checked the numbers but it feels like he played for a total of 10 minutes and had like 10 touches and 5 shots so far.
Even when he's open he's not getting the ball.

I really think they need to involve him more. He definetly needs more touches.

[minimus]

Haven't checked the numbers but it feels like he played for a total of 10 minutes and had like 10 touches and 5 shots so far.
Even when he's open he's not getting the ball.

I really think they need to involve him more. He definitely needs more touches.

Especially if these touches go to Dieng, Martin etc.

[_AIJ_]

Haven't checked the numbers but it feels like he played for a total of 10 minutes and had like 10 touches and 5 shots so far.
Even when he's open he's not getting the ball.

I really think they need to involve him more. He definetly needs more touches.

There was one play last night when Dieng was in the post and he just dribbles and took and horrible hook shot while there was Culver at the 3pt line wide open.


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[Rookie-Mistake]

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[Jedzz]

Time to protect the investment. Develop out of the limelight for a little while. Even if that means DNPs for a while and just pushing him hard in practice till things start to slow down for him.

[TwolvesFanRome]

Seems to me not ready for the fight...He can t attack the rim...he can t shoot continuously...he just looks well in passing and vision...

Hope he is not a sunk pick...but i am saying this just seeing the other rookie like Hacimura, Clarke, White and Herro (is he a steal??)

Cmon Jarret we are waiting for your explosion!

[beezy]

Culver is a big enigma to me right now. Of the clips I've watched of him the biggest thing I think he'll struggle with is the athleticism of the NBA. He looks like a good "college athlete" to me. He's going to get his share of balls blocked back in his face for a while. Can he adjust?

yep.

[Crazy-Canuck]

Culver had a solid first start for the wolves as a pg.

It worked because he fits with kat and wiggs.

He doesn't really create in the traditional sense, but he gets the ball to kat and wiggs.

Wiggs takes alot of the pressure off him half court sets, so he doesnt have to probe or over dribble.

The kat pnr gives him opportunities to get to the rim without an iso and gives him an outlet.

He gets to set up for 3 pointers because kat and wiggs draw so much attention. He is wide open for some of his 3s when wiggs or kat kick or swing it out to him.

[Jedzz]

Culver had a solid first start for the wolves as a pg.

It worked because he fits with kat and wiggs.

He doesn't really create in the traditional sense, but he gets the ball to kat and wiggs.

Wiggs takes alot of the pressure off him half court sets, so he doesnt have to probe or over dribble.

The kat pnr gives him opportunities to get to the rim without an iso and gives him an outlet.

He gets to set up for 3 pointers because kat and wiggs draw so much attention. He is wide open for some of his 3s when wiggs or kat kick or swing it out to him.

Only, it didn't work overall, and they lost to a team seen as one of the easier opponents so far of this season. So saying he fits with Wiggs and Kat might be an overstatement. He might fit well with Wiggins at this time. I don't think there was much proof that Culver starting helped Kat's game at all. And when you are a PG here, that's a big part of your job. Are we really hoping Kat will feed Culver more so we can feel better about a draft choice?

I think you are just trying to be positive and like many want to glow a bit about his first start at PG. I also don't want to come off as a hater but I don't buy those sentences.

I'm thinking you could place any number of players' names into those sentences and at the position of starting point guard and they would all fit into those sentences regardless of their talent or play.

...It's not a positive that he doesn't really create in the traditional sense.
...it's not really a positive of him that we need Wiggs to take pressure off him in half court sets so he doesnt need to dribble or probe.
...It's not a positive that he can't iso to the rim and will need a Kat PNR. Why couldn't Napier get that chance? Why not do that with Teague and Kat?
...If he's wide open for 3s when Wiggs or Kat Kick, it's because nobody is scared of his shot yet and those defenders are instead inside forcing Kat/Wiggins to kick.

He's either going to be a traditional PG, or an on ball iso wrecking ball PG scorer, or capable of both of those things, or else he is not much more than a tweening out of place placeholder for the next PG we draft. Hope we can figure out which one of those he is soon while experimenting and losing.

[Battletrigger]

Jedzz, you are a Culver hater since the beginning, before the preseason started. Only need to look for the messages where you said Nowell was the big deal and Culver nothing special.

[Worm Guts]

I thought Culver looked the best he has this season against Memphis, so that's a positive. Theoretically, playing at Culver at PG should be an improvement on defense since it improves our size and our switchability, but we had a terrible defensive team performance. Culver generally seems to be a work in progress..

[Crazy-Canuck]

Culver had a solid first start for the wolves as a pg.

It worked because he fits with kat and wiggs.

He doesn't really create in the traditional sense, but he gets the ball to kat and wiggs.

Wiggs takes alot of the pressure off him half court sets, so he doesnt have to probe or over dribble.

The kat pnr gives him opportunities to get to the rim without an iso and gives him an outlet.

He gets to set up for 3 pointers because kat and wiggs draw so much attention. He is wide open for some of his 3s when wiggs or kat kick or swing it out to him.

Only, it didn't work overall, and they lost to a team seen as one of the easier opponents so far of this season. So saying he fits with Wiggs and Kat might be an overstatement. He might fit well with Wiggins at this time. I don't think there was much proof that Culver starting helped Kat's game at all. And when you are a PG here, that's a big part of your job. Are we really hoping Kat will feed Culver more so we can feel better about a draft choice?

I think you are just trying to be positive and like many want to glow a bit about his first start at PG. I also don't want to come off as a hater but I don't buy those sentences.

I'm thinking you could place any number of players' names into those sentences and at the position of starting point guard and they would all fit into those sentences regardless of their talent or play.

...It's not a positive that he doesn't really create in the traditional sense.
...it's not really a positive of him that we need Wiggs to take pressure off him in half court sets so he doesnt need to dribble or probe.
...It's not a positive that he can't iso to the rim and will need a Kat PNR. Why couldn't Napier get that chance? Why not do that with Teague and Kat?
...If he's wide open for 3s when Wiggs or Kat Kick, it's because nobody is scared of his shot yet and those defenders are instead inside forcing Kat/Wiggins to kick.

He's either going to be a traditional PG, or an on ball iso wrecking ball PG scorer, or capable of both of those things, or else he is not much more than a tweening out of place placeholder for the next PG we draft. Hope we can figure out which one of those he is soon while experimenting and losing.

It is a positive because it at least shows that he can possibly play pg at this level.

Hes a rookie still feeling out the league, if he can play pg (brogdan type), than thats one less position to worry about.

[Jedzz]

It is a positive because it at least shows that he can possibly play pg at this level.

Hes a rookie still feeling out the league, if he can play pg (brogdan type), than thats one less position to worry about.

Yeah I didn't expect you to read it.

[Jedzz]

Jedzz, you are a Culver hater since the beginning, before the preseason started. Only need to look for the messages where you said Nowell was the big deal and Culver nothing special.

Well I've never seen your name here before so it doesn't surprise me that your suggesting I said something that I did not.

I have said and did say that Culver was not my dream draft choice and would have rather stayed at 11 and just taken a shooter. I also said that all my hopes from the draft picks reside in Nowell being the shooter at this level that he was in college because that's #1 exactly what this team needed. Of course as soon as I said the word "need" the draft pros get all itchy about that.

Low and behold the season is upon us and what is it that is glaring that this team needs more than anything else? Shooting skilled players and it's not even close. I'll rest on my prior words about that all season long. Try not to confuse them.

Culver hater? It's more like I'm going to requre proof of all the hyped BS laid upon us about him and from those that will say anything right now to have him begin his reign as starting PG as soon as possible.

[Norseman79]

Culver had a solid first start for the wolves as a pg.

It worked because he fits with kat and wiggs.

He doesn't really create in the traditional sense, but he gets the ball to kat and wiggs.

Wiggs takes alot of the pressure off him half court sets, so he doesnt have to probe or over dribble.

The kat pnr gives him opportunities to get to the rim without an iso and gives him an outlet.

He gets to set up for 3 pointers because kat and wiggs draw so much attention. He is wide open for some of his 3s when wiggs or kat kick or swing it out to him.

Only, it didn't work overall, and they lost to a team seen as one of the easier opponents so far of this season. So saying he fits with Wiggs and Kat might be an overstatement. He might fit well with Wiggins at this time. I don't think there was much proof that Culver starting helped Kat's game at all. And when you are a PG here, that's a big part of your job. Are we really hoping Kat will feed Culver more so we can feel better about a draft choice?

Here is the deal, the Wolves would have probably one if Karl didn't play like garbage most of the game. Did you watch? I did. His defense was brutal, his effort was non-existent, and he settled for 11 3pa while making 3 of them while going 5/8 around the paint. If you are suggesting that Karl Towns needs to be created for, wouldn't that imply that he would produce when being set up?

[Jedzz]

Culver had a solid first start for the wolves as a pg.

It worked because he fits with kat and wiggs.

He doesn't really create in the traditional sense, but he gets the ball to kat and wiggs.

Wiggs takes alot of the pressure off him half court sets, so he doesnt have to probe or over dribble.

The kat pnr gives him opportunities to get to the rim without an iso and gives him an outlet.

He gets to set up for 3 pointers because kat and wiggs draw so much attention. He is wide open for some of his 3s when wiggs or kat kick or swing it out to him.

Only, it didn't work overall, and they lost to a team seen as one of the easier opponents so far of this season. So saying he fits with Wiggs and Kat might be an overstatement. He might fit well with Wiggins at this time. I don't think there was much proof that Culver starting helped Kat's game at all. And when you are a PG here, that's a big part of your job. Are we really hoping Kat will feed Culver more so we can feel better about a draft choice?

Here is the deal, the Wolves would have probably one if Karl didn't play like garbage most of the game. Did you watch? I did. His defense was brutal, his effort was non-existent, and he settled for 11 3pa while making 3 of them while going 5/8 around the paint. If you are suggesting that Karl Towns needs to be created for, wouldn't that imply that he would produce when being set up?

Well since I did watch and I happen to be open to both sides of the coin, here might be the other side of the coin. That the mere fact we had a limited rookie starting as our PG forced KAT to play a different style of game. I've also already posted at length about the possibility of why not only KAT but everyone else was seemingly playing out of sorts. Maybe you should check those posts out if you are open to anything other than spin tales about unproven rookies.

[wesleyt95]

I thought Culver looked the best he has this season against Memphis, so that's a positive. Theoretically, playing at Culver at PG should be an improvement on defense since it improves our size and our switchability, but we had a terrible defensive team performance. Culver generally seems to be a work in progress..

The only team that benefits from Culver playing pg is us

[wesleyt95]

Only, it didn't work overall, and they lost to a team seen as one of the easier opponents so far of this season. So saying he fits with Wiggs and Kat might be an overstatement. He might fit well with Wiggins at this time. I don't think there was much proof that Culver starting helped Kat's game at all. And when you are a PG here, that's a big part of your job. Are we really hoping Kat will feed Culver more so we can feel better about a draft choice?

Here is the deal, the Wolves would have probably one if Karl didn't play like garbage most of the game. Did you watch? I did. His defense was brutal, his effort was non-existent, and he settled for 11 3pa while making 3 of them while going 5/8 around the paint. If you are suggesting that Karl Towns needs to be created for, wouldn't that imply that he would produce when being set up?

Well since I did watch and I happen to be open to both sides of the coin, here might be the other side of the coin. That the mere fact we had a limited rookie starting as our PG forced KAT to play a different style of game. I've also already posted at length about the possibility of why not only KAT but everyone else was seemingly playing out of sorts. Maybe you should check those posts out if you are open to anything other than spin tales about unproven rookies.

So KAT's game was all Culver's fault? It had nothing to do with coming back from a 2 game suspension? You sound rediculous, the offense runs through KAT. Why not have the 2nd biggest pg in the league, can we all give him a full audition at least... When Culver was aggressive we were in the lead

[Norseman79]

Only, it didn't work overall, and they lost to a team seen as one of the easier opponents so far of this season. So saying he fits with Wiggs and Kat might be an overstatement. He might fit well with Wiggins at this time. I don't think there was much proof that Culver starting helped Kat's game at all. And when you are a PG here, that's a big part of your job. Are we really hoping Kat will feed Culver more so we can feel better about a draft choice?

Here is the deal, the Wolves would have probably one if Karl didn't play like garbage most of the game. Did you watch? I did. His defense was brutal, his effort was non-existent, and he settled for 11 3pa while making 3 of them while going 5/8 around the paint. If you are suggesting that Karl Towns needs to be created for, wouldn't that imply that he would produce when being set up?

Well since I did watch and I happen to be open to both sides of the coin, here might be the other side of the coin. That the mere fact we had a limited rookie starting as our PG forced KAT to play a different style of game. I've also already posted at length about the possibility of why not only KAT but everyone else was seemingly playing out of sorts. Maybe you should check those posts out if you are open to anything other than spin tales about unproven rookies.

How does a rookie PG starting have anything to do with your supposed best player's effort and shot selection? Did you see Kat posting and calling for the ball and not getting it? Did you see Karl crashing the offensive boards? Did you see Karl putting forth any effort on the defensive end other than standing flat-footed and occasionally jumping to try to block a shot? I am far from a Culver fan, I would say I am neutral on him right now, that being said, to suggest that it didn't work overall and tie it to him.

[wolfen]

Co-guards... If Culver is part of the future he of course will be heavily involved in handling the ball, making plays, etc. That being said, I think that it might be a good idea to find a guard to play opposite him that is kind of a 3 and D PG. Guys like Patty Mills, Pat Beverly, Dragic who are PG's but they're not 1A when it comes to setting guys up, making plays, etc. They can defend tough and nail shots to space the floor, and SHARE the play-making with a guy like Culver.

Do yourself a favor and watch a few Pels games and focus on Frank Jackson. He's a backup PG/SG who can play off the ball as well as help with the setup of things. Great athlete and tough defender too. The reason I mention him is because he'll be a restricted free agent next summer and he would be a GREAT fit next to Culver whether it's a bench pairing or starting pairing.

Jevon Carter is also a free agent next summer and he would be an affordable prototype as well, he'd be a rotational PG, not a starter, but he could get decent minutes opposite Culver.

VanVleet would be sweet (he's a free agent), but he'll re-sign in Toronto. Other than that, I don't see any other free agent PG's who would be somewhat affordable, that would fit our time-table, and would be 3 and D types.

Draft - We all know the upcoming draft is supposed to be "heavy" with quality PG's. Excellent news for us, but I can't speculate on any pg's at this point, need to watch 'em.

Trade - D-Lo - Something doesn't fit with me on D-Lo, he'll cost too much $, he's so ball dominant (bad for Culver, Wigs), and isn't a great defender. I just don't see us trading for a top 10 PG so we'll have to get this done in free agency AND the draft.