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2024 Draft - Who you got?

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Re: 2024 Draft - Who you got? 

Post#341 » by Slim Tubby » Sun Jun 9, 2024 3:04 am

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jpatrick wrote:He would completely go undated this year if it wasn’t for his name.

That wasn't what you said though. You said his name was the only difference between playing Pac-12 basketball as a draft prospect and not being good enough for over 350 Division I programs, 300 Division II programs, etc. because he would be pursuing something like dentistry over basketball.
That was me and I have no agenda against Brinny.

Have you watched him much at USC, Klomp? I have. No shooting, no ball skills, slightly above average athlete, no true position, MAYBE 6-1.5" with no PG skills and too small to guard SG or bigger. He is quite simply not worthy of selection even in a weak Draft.

If he was Bronny Smith, nobody would have a clue who he is. And since when did studying to be a dentist become an insult??? :)

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Re: 2024 Draft - Who you got? 

Post#342 » by jpatrick » Sun Jun 9, 2024 3:10 am

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jpatrick wrote:He would completely go undated this year if it wasn’t for his name.

That wasn't what you said though. You said his name was the only difference between playing Pac-12 basketball as a draft prospect and not being good enough for over 350 Division I programs, 300 Division II programs, etc. because he would be pursuing something like dentistry over basketball.
That was me and I have no agenda against Brinny.

Have you watched him much at USC, Klomp? I have. No shooting, no ball skills, slightly above average athlete, no true position, MAYBE 6-1.5" with no PG skills and too small to guard SG or bigger. He is quite simply not worthy of selection even in a weak Draft.

If he was Bronny Smith, nobody would have a clue who he is. And since when did studying to be a dentist become an insult??? :)

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Yeah. He’d be a D1 player. But he would have been a borderline top 100 recruit who no one would be talking about after the disaster of a freshman year he had.
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Re: 2024 Draft - Who you got? 

Post#343 » by wolves_89 » Sun Jun 9, 2024 12:23 pm

Looking at a significant number of mock drafts doesn't give much clarity on who might be available at 27. I saw 8 different players predicted to the Wolves (Tyson, Scheierman, Klintman, Furphy, Edwards, Smith, George, and Simpson) with Minnesota passing on a few additional options (Ware, Edey, and Carrington). Out of all those players, Ware and Klintman seem like the highest rated players that have a reasonable chance of being on the board when the Wolves pick. I'd rate Scheierman, Edwards, and Simpson as 2nd round guys.

This seems like a draft that is right in Connelly's wheelhouse in that once you get to 20 there are a large group of players on the same tier. Finding value is going to come down to scouting and being aggressive in making small trades to move up or down to get the player(s) you want.
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Re: 2024 Draft - Who you got? 

Post#344 » by minimus » Sun Jun 9, 2024 7:57 pm



What about Keshad Johnson?
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Re: 2024 Draft - Who you got? 

Post#345 » by BlacJacMac » Sun Jun 9, 2024 8:06 pm

minimus wrote:https://youtu.be/XbapITVqU10?si=nEeCXO9R3JPJkT5d

What about Keshad Johnson?


I think he's super interesting. Type of guy who could step in right away and contribute.
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Re: 2024 Draft - Who you got? 

Post#346 » by minimus » Mon Jun 10, 2024 6:35 am

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Post#347 » by minimus » Mon Jun 10, 2024 6:42 am

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Re: 2024 Draft - Who you got? 

Post#348 » by shangrila » Mon Jun 10, 2024 10:55 am

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Draft and stash prospect?

Not really?

Who needs or wants a floor spacer hitting 20% from 3?
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Re: 2024 Draft - Who you got? 

Post#349 » by Klomp » Mon Jun 10, 2024 7:28 pm

Neeva wrote:Adem Bona just seems like a Connelly guy, from Bruins fans they say he’s a good team/locker room guy also. I bet he’s our second round pick.

One thought...

We got exploited by Dereck Lively II. His size, athleticism and pure hustle left us wildly overmatched. We have very little in that mold. For that reason, it makes me wonder if Bona might not be a terrible addition. He could potentially be the "next man up" to anchor the defense as Gobert ages.

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Re: 2024 Draft - Who you got? 

Post#350 » by minimus » Mon Jun 10, 2024 8:27 pm

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Neeva wrote:Adem Bona just seems like a Connelly guy, from Bruins fans they say he’s a good team/locker room guy also. I bet he’s our second round pick.

One thought...

We got exploited by Dereck Lively II. His size, athleticism and pure hustle left us wildly overmatched. We have very little in that mold. For that reason, it makes me wonder if Bona might not be a terrible addition. He could potentially be the "next man up" to anchor the defense as Gobert ages.

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As I wrote before, I do believe that MIN have three possible scenarios to continue this season success:

- scenario A: draft/get a young rim runner, lanky shot blocker aka defensive anchor at C, let say a Gobert type of player
- scenario B: draft/get a versatile, athletic defender at PF, let say a Aaron Gordon type of player
- scenario C: draft/get a versatile, athletic, but undersized defender at C, let say a Draymond Green type of player

With some luck TC can implement either development path, because Towns and Reid provide unique skillset. Plus TC drafted Walker Kessler, and got Gobert. I understand why MIN extended TC contract, because this offseason might be the most challenging and most decisive for this franchise.
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Re: 2024 Draft - Who you got? 

Post#351 » by Neeva » Mon Jun 10, 2024 9:02 pm

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Neeva wrote:Adem Bona just seems like a Connelly guy, from Bruins fans they say he’s a good team/locker room guy also. I bet he’s our second round pick.

One thought...

We got exploited by Dereck Lively II. His size, athleticism and pure hustle left us wildly overmatched. We have very little in that mold. For that reason, it makes me wonder if Bona might not be a terrible addition. He could potentially be the "next man up" to anchor the defense as Gobert ages.

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He looks phenomenal athletically, and pac 12 defensive poy, the instincts are there, his offensive stats were horrendous but I think that has more to do with UCLA’s mediocre coaching and schemes. Like Jaime Jaquez Jr he could look like a much better player with the better coaching in nba.
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Re: 2024 Draft - Who you got? 

Post#352 » by Klomp » Mon Jun 10, 2024 9:12 pm

Bona would also fill the Connelly type of highly-ranked HS prospect who falls. He was 18th in the 247 Composite rankings in the Class of 2022, ahead of guys like Leonard Miller (28), Donovan Clingan (56), Taylor Hendricks (67).
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Re: 2024 Draft - Who you got? 

Post#353 » by KATKlownFeet » Tue Jun 11, 2024 4:08 am

Mattya wrote:The Lakers seems like a good trade up if they really want Bronny but don't want to draft him to high while getting some extra assets. If we could package 27 and Miller, maybe we could grab someone if they slip out of the lotto.


Super hard pass! Leonard Miller is a stud and nobody outside the top 5 guys would I consider trading Miller for. In fact, I am not looking to trade him at all. We might as well trade Ant and Jaden too for some more picks in this weakass draft. Lets go all in for more chumps who will rot on the bench.
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Re: 2024 Draft - Who you got? 

Post#354 » by Mattya » Tue Jun 11, 2024 2:14 pm

KATKlownFeet wrote:
Mattya wrote:The Lakers seems like a good trade up if they really want Bronny but don't want to draft him to high while getting some extra assets. If we could package 27 and Miller, maybe we could grab someone if they slip out of the lotto.


Super hard pass! Leonard Miller is a stud and nobody outside the top 5 guys would I consider trading Miller for. In fact, I am not looking to trade him at all. We might as well trade Ant and Jaden too for some more picks in this weakass draft. Lets go all in for more chumps who will rot on the bench.


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Re: 2024 Draft - Who you got? 

Post#355 » by Norseman79 » Tue Jun 11, 2024 3:55 pm

I wouldn't grab a center in this draft, not where we are picking anyway. There just isn't the right prototype. At least not one outside of the top 10 of the draft.
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Re: 2024 Draft - Who you got? 

Post#356 » by thinktank » Tue Jun 11, 2024 4:26 pm

Yeah, I'm not going big in this draft.

One of the rare instances that I would advocate not taking BPA if they're a C or PF. Maybe with our second pick if we can't trade up.



We need grease for the offense. And I don't mind trading up to get it.
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Re: 2024 Draft - Who you got? 

Post#357 » by cmoss84 » Tue Jun 11, 2024 5:31 pm

No Edey if he's there?
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Re: 2024 Draft - Who you got? 

Post#358 » by DaMplsKid » Tue Jun 11, 2024 6:29 pm

Klomp wrote:
Neeva wrote:Adem Bona just seems like a Connelly guy, from Bruins fans they say he’s a good team/locker room guy also. I bet he’s our second round pick.

One thought...

We got exploited by Dereck Lively II. His size, athleticism and pure hustle left us wildly overmatched. We have very little in that mold. For that reason, it makes me wonder if Bona might not be a terrible addition. He could potentially be the "next man up" to anchor the defense as Gobert ages.

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I would love to pick this guy up in the 2nd round. He just has the physical size, toughness and explosiveness we need in a big man. He runs the floor very good and is a monster on the lob. He is very raw and turnover prone but with time can develop into a perfect type of big we need. (when we trade Towns) he would be the guy to match up with the Embid and Jokers of the world.

These are the 3 guys I want to walk away from the draft with.

1st rnd - Kel'el Ware -6"11 Center Indiana (our big that can stretch the floor and isn't as soft as Towns)
2nd Rnd- Adem Bona - 6'8 Center UCLA (big nasty defender with strength and way stronger the Towns)
2nd Rnd - Jonathan Mogbo 6'6 SF/PF (Big strong, Draymond Green type of play making PF)

I we need to find a way to walk aware with these 3 guys and add some more size, physical and toughness to the team. Sure Bona and Mogbo can't shoot but they both rebound, play defense and in Mogbo case can handle the ball and make plays. These two would help us match up with Zion next year and add some bounce to our bigs.

Ware is a big who would bring back some of Towns skill set once we trade that dead weight.
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Re: 2024 Draft - Who you got? 

Post#359 » by minimus » Tue Jun 11, 2024 8:47 pm

I hope that TC will bring back Morris, so I would be happy if we draft a comboforward who can contribute as part of bench unit. Is Miller ready? Can Clark get some minutes? Where we get shooting?

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Here is the list of players who has had workouts in MIN, only one freshman https://hoopshype.com/lists/2024-draft-workouts-tracker/
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Re: 2024 Draft - Who you got? 

Post#360 » by shangrila » Tue Jun 11, 2024 9:00 pm

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B.Carlson - 7ft sniper who's below average nearly everywhere else but does have that 1 elite skill. At 25, and with those weaknesses, I can't see him getting drafted but he's a 2-way candidate.

C.Christie - Springy 2 guard who's an elite shooter and better defender than I initially thought (I like his competitiveness on that end, even if his technique needs refining). He's on the skinny side which impacts him on both ends and his finishing numbers are a serious red flag (44.4% at the rim per Hoop-Math) but overall an interesting upside swing.

N.Djurisic - I'll be honest, I don't think he's a good prospect. He's a high usage, better off the bounce than catch shooter with poor (maybe even non-existant) defence. His passing is nice and the shot form doesn't look bad but he's a classic guy who needs the ball in his hands to be effective but is nowhere talented enough to justify that.

O.Ighodaro - Klomp's favourite. 6-11 C with a lot of bounce and elite feel/passing. Great PnR player, including as both a finisher and short roll passer. Also great in DHOs. Poor FT shooter and no range outside of a pretty decent floater will likely cause issues offensively. His defence is also good on the perimeter but he's a little skinny for his size so can struggle with bulk. Also is average (at best) as a rebounder and not much of a rim protector (measured with a 6-11 wingspan, which shows in the tape). I like him in the 2nd because we need smart players on the team.

D.Jones - Believe BlacJacMac posted a full run down a few pages back. Cliff notes are that he's a 6-5 PG with some athletic and shooting concerns. Awesome wingspan (6-4 without shoes with a 6-11 wingspan) but I worry about his role in the NBA. I'm not sure if he's good enough to truly run the offence through and his value diminishes significantly if you can't.

T.Newton - 6-5 combo guard from the recent 2-time UCONN championship teams. Does a lot of things well, including being a great rebounder for a guard (historically a good indicator of future NBA success) and one of the better floor generals (2.53 AST:TO ratio). He's got a weird shot form that plays out in the %s and he's got some athletic concerns that can impact his finishing at times and his defence. He's also lighter than you'd like for a 6-5 guy at 190lbs (he weighed about the same as Cam Christie, a freshman, and Mark Sears, who's 5-11). I can see him sticking the league but not sure he's the kind of player you spend draft capital on.

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