Trade Ideas thread

[shrink]

Good post! In order:

Sa and minny
Lma for Rubio and dubljevic
Both need a change of scenario and fills a need for both teams. The euro guy is a value big to give a shot in the system that everyone wins in

I like the idea of Rubio on the Spurs - a lot. Aldridge had a pretty bad season though. Maybe Dubljevic makes up the difference, if we can find a temporary vet starter to replace Rubio. However, I think Rubio is pretty important to our playoff chances next year, so the Spurs may have to bring more to impress me.

Dallas and minny
Wed Mathews for Cole Aldrich
Dallas wants out of wes and Cole saves cash and gets them a vet guy.

There's an interesting discussion going on in the trade board right now here

http://forums.realgm.com/boards/viewtopic.php?f=2&t=1559098

.. and Rubio for #9, where I'd assume we'd package #9 for a good vet.

Portland and minny
Myers Lenard and pick 20 for Jordan hill (not guaranteed) and BJ
Saves 10 mil for Portland and gives a euro prospect

I also like the concept of this one as well. I don't know if I'd include Bjelica - perhaps the three more years of cap burden of Meyers would be enough of a cap space hit to justify one of POR's picks, which I assume we'd package the #20 as well. I think POR will use one of their three picks for some cap relief. Evan Turner or Crabbe are bad contracts that might be considered too, but I imagine Leonard is most likely.

[minimus]

Kris Dunn for Danny Green? SAS need talent and athleticism at PG, we need veteran presence, perimeter defense and shooting. Draft Markkanen. Sign Khem Birch for 6mil/3yrs contract. Trade Aldrich for Crabbe + #15. Draft OG.

KAT/Dieng/Birch
Bjelica/Dieng/Markkanen
Wiggins/Crabbe/OG
Green/LaVine/Crabbe
Rubio/Jones/LaVine

That is a good combination of experience, offensive/defensive potential and athleticism.

This would be really selling low on Dunn. Green has been declining, and think we could find better use for Dunn in a trade. I'd rather just pay the extra ~$8m and trade for Wes Matthews. On the trade board Dallas fans are cool with Wes for Aldrich.

Wes for Aldrich sounds good for me. Even if I like Danny Green size and toughness more. Lets combine this with trade ideas from my posts:
Aldrich for Wes
Payne for DeMarre Carroll

Draft Markkanen. Sign Khem Birch for 6mil/3yrs contract.

KAT/Dieng/Birch
Bjelica/Markkanen/Carroll
Wiggins/Carroll/Matthews
Matthews/LaVine/Dunn
Rubio/Dunn/Jones

That's pretty deep and talented roster.

[ace625214]

This I do If we can't steal Middleton away.. on bucks board it looked like
Middleton, Telly, Henson pick 17 for pick six, Dunn, and Cole


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Wait, the Bucks board told you they would that trade? They normally want the world for Middleton. I think I would accept that pretty quickly.

[moss_is_1]

Kris Dunn for Danny Green? SAS need talent and athleticism at PG, we need veteran presence, perimeter defense and shooting. Draft Markkanen. Sign Khem Birch for 6mil/3yrs contract. Trade Aldrich for Crabbe + #15. Draft OG.

KAT/Dieng/Birch
Bjelica/Dieng/Markkanen
Wiggins/Crabbe/OG
Green/LaVine/Crabbe
Rubio/Jones/LaVine

That is a good combination of experience, offensive/defensive potential and athleticism.

This would be really selling low on Dunn. Green has been declining, and think we could find better use for Dunn in a trade. I'd rather just pay the extra ~$8m and trade for Wes Matthews. On the trade board Dallas fans are cool with Wes for Aldrich.

Wes for Aldrich sounds good for me. Even if I like Danny Green size and toughness more. Lets combine this with trade ideas from my posts:
Aldrich for Wes
Payne for DeMarre Carroll

Draft Markkanen. Sign Khem Birch for 6mil/3yrs contract.

KAT/Dieng/Birch
Bjelica/Markkanen/Carroll
Wiggins/Carroll/Matthews
Matthews/LaVine/Dunn
Rubio/Dunn/Jones

That's pretty deep and talented roster.

I'd probably only trade for one of Matthews or Carroll. Plus wouldn't want anything to do with Markkanen. This wouldn't be too bad, would get us some veterans on the bench with something in the tank at least.

[shrink]

This I do If we can't steal Middleton away.. on bucks board it looked like
Middleton, Telly, Henson pick 17 for pick six, Dunn, and Cole

Wait, the Bucks board told you they would that trade? They normally want the world for Middleton. I think I would accept that pretty quickly.

http://forums.realgm.com/boards/viewtopic.php?f=2&t=1559065#start_here

Bucks posters on the Trade Board seemed to like it. My view was this:

To me, if MIN is giving up #6 plus taking both Henson and Telly ($22 mil next year, $22 in 2018-19, and $10 in 2020), I think you'd need to take out Dunn and #17.

That's unfortunate, because I find the MIN trades with Dunn or Zach LaVine very interesting. Both are very good at what they do, but "what they do" is not "running an offense." If the ball is in Giannis' hands, it would allow them to focus in on what they are good at (Dunn - man defense, and Zach - scoring).

[Krapinsky]

This I do If we can't steal Middleton away.. on bucks board it looked like
Middleton, Telly, Henson pick 17 for pick six, Dunn, and Cole


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Wait, the Bucks board told you they would that trade? They normally want the world for Middleton. I think I would accept that pretty quickly.

I'd accept that pretty quickly as well. Telly and Henson are solid rotation players.

[Guidus88]

what about something like this:

6th pick + Lavine + Dunn or Dieng for Porzingis

[AlfieJaegar]

what about something like this:

6th pick + Lavine + Dunn or Dieng for Porzingis

That's way too much for Zingis.We can get Jimmy with these pieces.

[Guidus88]

That's way too much for Zingis.We can get Jimmy with these pieces.

Really?

Lavine will come from an ACL, dunn has been garbage the whole season.

IMO there are really few chances NYK will accept such trade.

[AlfieJaegar]

That's way too much for Zingis.We can get Jimmy with these pieces.

Really?

Lavine will come from an ACL, dunn has been garbage the whole season.

IMO there are really few chances NYK will accept such trade.

Yeah but there's no point of trading Lavine and Dunn now or at the start of the season.Their value will be higher by the time goes on.

[shrink]

That's way too much for Zingis.We can get Jimmy with these pieces.

Really?

Lavine will come from an ACL, dunn has been garbage the whole season.

IMO there are really few chances NYK will accept such trade.

It sounds to me like CHI is going to re-sign Rondo and keep Jimmy Butler now, but LaVine, #6 and Dunn is a good rebuilding package. You have pieces with star potential, but they won't help your team as much this next season, so you would be able to get a high lottery pick in 2018 as well.

[AlfieJaegar]

That's way too much for Zingis.We can get Jimmy with these pieces.

Really?

Lavine will come from an ACL, dunn has been garbage the whole season.

IMO there are really few chances NYK will accept such trade.

It sounds to me like CHI is going to re-sign Rondo and keep Jimmy Butler now, but LaVine, #6 and Dunn is a good rebuilding package. You have pieces with star potential, but they won't help your team as much this next season, so you would be able to get a high lottery pick in 2018 as well.

I wouldn't want to do that trade actually.Last year was for tanking.This year is the real test for this team.And I think with the right FA's we can make it to the PO's.

[Biggsohnasty]

If Dallas really is willing to part with Matthews essentially as a salary dump, that's exactly the type of player this team needs.

Prototype 3 and D wing player. He really fizzled late in last season though so I wonder how much juice he's got left in his tank. He's only 30 but he's had a number of injuries that might have aged him a bit more than that number. So having a good backup option assuming he doesn't get through an entire season would be important.

How about Dunn for Stanley Johnson - two guys that get changes of scenery.
Jordan Hill for Wes Matthews - Dallas dumps the contract afterwards and goes big game hunting yet again
Lavine and Aldrich for Favors and Jazz 1st - Jazz get either Hayward insurance or another high upside wing to replace Ingles while Wolves get rough and tumble big to pair with Towns who also fits into this window given his youth/experience.
Sign cheap vets (2 of Sefolosha/Dunleavy/Rush (insert old wing) + Khem Birch)
Draft Dennis Smith, Hartenstein, Hart/Thornwell

Rubio-Matthews-Wiggins-Favors-Towns
Smith-Sefolosha-Johnson-Bjelicia-Dieng
Jones-Hart-Rush-Birch-Hartenstein

Little slim on the wings if Johnson really is a bust but you are banking on him kind of figuring it out a little bit while Wiggins and Matthews take up a bulk of the minutes. I'd take my chances with that group. There's a good mix of veteran, in prime talent with Matthews and Favors but there's also a lot of upside for a team to continue ascending for another 5 years with Smith, Johnson, Hartenstein and KAT/Wiggy

[Streakers33]

what about something like this:

6th pick + Lavine + Dunn or Dieng for Porzingis

That's way too much for Zingis.We can get Jimmy with these pieces.

U do this in a heart beat. Wiggins and lavine are natural sg and u can't play them at the same time.. zingis makes it so your big three is
Towns, zingis, lavine or Wiggins not towns Wiggins lavine...
do the math.. u replace dieng with zingis and u change our whole last season...



This I do If we can't steal Middleton away.. on bucks board it looked like
Middleton, Telly, Henson pick 17 for pick six, Dunn, and Cole

Wait, the Bucks board told you they would that trade? They normally want the world for Middleton. I think I would accept that pretty quickly.

http://forums.realgm.com/boards/viewtopic.php?f=2&t=1559065#start_here

Bucks posters on the Trade Board seemed to like it. My view was this:

To me, if MIN is giving up #6 plus taking both Henson and Telly ($22 mil next year, $22 in 2018-19, and $10 in 2020), I think you'd need to take out Dunn and #17.

That's unfortunate, because I find the MIN trades with Dunn or Zach LaVine very interesting. Both are very good at what they do, but "what they do" is not "running an offense." If the ball is in Giannis' hands, it would allow them to focus in on what they are good at (Dunn - man defense, and Zach - scoring).

For real.. shrink and I have been doing pages and pages with bucks fans to get to see how they value Middleton... he is the perfect player for sg for most rosters.. they know it. We know it. That's why in real life we tried to get him here.. if all it takes is a pick and a seriously large salary dump on us for non core pieces.. u take that and run.. u still end up with
Rubio,Middleton,Wiggins,lavine, and towns...ffs.. take that and run hard



We been working these boards hard.. and being back here to see what sticks.. so we can go place the sticky ideas out there and see who grabs onto them.. thanks for the help shrink!




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[rugbyrugger23]

what about something like this:

6th pick + Lavine + Dunn or Dieng for Porzingis

I would rather do Wiggins + 6 and keep Dunn and Dieng. I would take on Lee and even offer up a future 1st.

And yes I would do a follow up trade with Rubio or Dunn on the block for an ideal SF--a defensive one.

C: Towns
F: Porzingis
F: Product of Rubio or Dunn Trade
G: LaVine
G: Dunn or Rubio

That looks like a franchise dynasty to me. Perfect fitting roster and one that plays off one another's strengths and weaknesses.

[shangrila]

Matthews would be a good get.

That's actually the kind of thing I'm a little interested in. Some good vets might become available that we can absorb like the Jazz and Diaw. Not sure who but then I wouldn't have exactly expected the Spurs to give up Diaw either, so who knows.

[Guidus88]

what about something like this:

6th pick + Lavine + Dunn or Dieng for Porzingis

I would rather do Wiggins + 6 and keep Dunn and Dieng. I would take on Lee and even offer up a future 1st.

And yes I would do a follow up trade with Rubio or Dunn on the block for an ideal SF--a defensive one.

C: Towns
F: Porzingis
F: Product of Rubio or Dunn Trade
G: LaVine
G: Dunn or Rubio

That looks like a franchise dynasty to me. Perfect fitting roster and one that plays off one another's strengths and weaknesses.

Wiggins for Porzingis straight up wouldnt be enough for NYK? IMO yes.

In this case, we would have also the 6th as trade asset.

[rugbyrugger23]

what about something like this:

6th pick + Lavine + Dunn or Dieng for Porzingis

I would rather do Wiggins + 6 and keep Dunn and Dieng. I would take on Lee and even offer up a future 1st.

And yes I would do a follow up trade with Rubio or Dunn on the block for an ideal SF--a defensive one.

C: Towns
F: Porzingis
F: Product of Rubio or Dunn Trade
G: LaVine
G: Dunn or Rubio

That looks like a franchise dynasty to me. Perfect fitting roster and one that plays off one another's strengths and weaknesses.

Wiggins for Porzingis straight up wouldnt be enough for NYK? IMO yes.

In this case, we would have also the 6th as trade asset.

According to many and the going offer on TnT board--no.

[packforfreedom]

There's no way we trade for Porzingis. Matthews is a realistic target, I can't believe his value has dropped so much, that many mavs fan would give him away basically for capspace.

Favors would be too good to be true. perfect fit next to Kat. I don't think Utah will let him go, though. I think they'd want our pick in return.

If we somehow get the chance to trade for both, Matthews and Favors without touching Rubio, LaVine, Wiggins and KAT, I'd do it.

[andyhop]

There's no way we trade for Porzingis. Matthews is a realistic target, I can't believe his value has dropped so much, that many mavs fan would give him away basically for capspace.

Favors would be too good to be true. perfect fit next to Kat. I don't think Utah will let him go, though. I think they'd want our pick in return.

If we somehow get the chance to trade for both, Matthews and Favors without touching Rubio, LaVine, Wiggins and KAT, I'd do it.

I mean he is a mediocre player over 30 on a big contract with a team that isn't going anywhere soon why wouldn't they be looking to dump him.