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Re: 2025 Summer League 

Post#361 » by Nick K » Fri Jul 11, 2025 3:40 am

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Worm Guts wrote:No doubt that Beringer looks like a revelation. Very impressive.


JB was the best player on the floor tonight. I thought he'd be good but not that good. This kid is a natural and can only get better.

The flip-side is he's so slight that he'll take a beating game after game. He fought through his bad wrist tonight showing he's tough to his credit.

This kid is a player. Unbelieable. His skills translate.

He's wiry, but at 235 lbs he's bigger than you might expect. For example, he's 20 lbs bigger than when Nic Claxton entered the league (and an inch taller)


235!?? He looks a buck 90. :)
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Re: 2025 Summer League 

Post#362 » by Klomp » Fri Jul 11, 2025 3:42 am

Nick K wrote:235!?? He looks a buck 90. :)

To be fair, 45 lbs might be in the afro alone 8-)
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Re: 2025 Summer League 

Post#363 » by BlacJacMac » Fri Jul 11, 2025 4:01 am

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Worm Guts wrote:No doubt that Beringer looks like a revelation. Very impressive.


JB was the best player on the floor tonight. I thought he'd be good but not that good. This kid is a natural and can only get better.

The flip-side is he's so slight that he'll take a beating game after game. He fought through his bad wrist tonight showing he's tough to his credit.

This kid is a player. Unbelieable. His skills translate.


Slight is not the word I’d use. He has a very stout base and a lower center of gravity. He’s not going to get pushed around.

Kid is 25 pounds heavier than Wemby as a rookie - while being 4” shorter.
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Re: [emoji2390]0[emoji2390][emoji[emoji2390][emoji[emoji2390]391]9[emoji[emoji2390]391]] Summer League 

Post#364 » by minimus » Fri Jul 11, 2025 5:28 am

jpatrick wrote:Is it too late to sign Ryan Nembhard? Dang. I know he’s small. But he looks like an NBA player out there.

I believe that MIN can still offer a standard NBA contract to him, while he is on a two-way contract. But I am not sure. Id do this, since Newton looks bad and Fulton did get much playing time
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Re: 2025 Summer League 

Post#365 » by minimus » Fri Jul 11, 2025 8:18 am

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minimus wrote:Regarding Dilly I feel like he needs to show how to initiate pick-n-roll, setup plays. I mean he has Beringer he is raw and does not always understand angles and timing. Rocco is huge, but he also should learn all little nuances of the game. Today I did not like even one DHO, one pick-n-roll with Dilly and bigs. But hopefully it can be fixed with chemistry and continuity. At this point I think Finch MUST play Rob and Joan all garbage minutes and try them as backups for Gobert and DDV/Conley


Dilly had a pretty bad day shooting but to me I saw the opposite of last year. Last year he looked lost and just playing street basketball. This year he looked frustrated that the offense wasn't being executed properly. There were about a half dozen wide open shots he created that dudes just bricked and two of those turnovers were him passing to where guys should have been but weren't. Remember, he's playing the point which means everything is on him. Other guys can sit back and let the game come to them, the point has to push the issue.

I thought he looked engaged and at least schematically competent on defense. I thought he made a number of really good passes. And I think he shot like crap and let that struggle bleed into his game a bit as time ticked away.

My guess is he looks a lot better as these guys get more used to each other.


agree with you — I guess I should have explained myself better.

First, Rob singlehandedly carried the offense in the first quarter. He really did create both for himself and for others. His 7 turnovers are more about lack of chemistry than lack of skills.

Second, what I was trying to say is that I think pick-and-roll and DHO (dribble hand-off) game are big areas for improvement. Once they develop chemistry and pick up all those little nuances, I can see the overall efficiency going way up.

Because the potential is definitely there. They finally have a mobile, athletic big man who can catch and finish plays, an elite ballhandler in Rob, and two functional wings in TJ and Jaylen.
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Re: 2025 Summer League 

Post#366 » by minimus » Fri Jul 11, 2025 10:51 am

Well, Miller at PF can indeed be a physical force with his length and mobility, especially against big wings converted to play stretch fours. But to play PF in NBA he needs 3PT shot
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Re: 2025 Summer League 

Post#367 » by Tukkerwolf » Fri Jul 11, 2025 10:55 am

KGdaBom wrote:Joan of altering the Arc


Haha, that is hilarious.
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Re: 2025 Summer League 

Post#368 » by Tukkerwolf » Fri Jul 11, 2025 10:59 am

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Neeva wrote:Our 18’year old that has just played 4 years is outplaying Pelicans 21 all rookie team center from last season . If he keeps improving at this rate we got the best player in the whole damn draft suckas!!

I know it's crazy to place too much hype on one half of SL Basketball, but I believe. How did his Euroleague coach hold him down?


He has been leaping through his career:

[..] and by the summer of 2021 had "never even touched a basketball

Beringer joined SIG Strasbourg in 2022 and played for their U18 squad in the LNB Espoirs [fr] league, averaging 4.1 points in the 2022–23 season then 17.4 points in 2023–24

Beringer moved to Ljubljana in the summer of 2024 [..] He was initially set to play for the club's reserve squad, but impressed and was promoted to the senior team before having appeared in a game.

In November 2024, he signed a four-year contract with Cedevita.[5] He saw significant playing time and helped them win the Slovenian Basketball Cup for the 2024–25 season


His Wiki reads as a 'that escalated quickly meme'
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Re: 2025 Summer League 

Post#369 » by KGdaBom » Fri Jul 11, 2025 12:30 pm

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KGdaBom wrote:Joan of altering the Arc


Haha, that is hilarious.

Thanks. :lol:
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Re: 2025 Summer League 

Post#370 » by KGdaBom » Fri Jul 11, 2025 12:33 pm

Nick K wrote:
Klomp wrote:
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JB was the best player on the floor tonight. I thought he'd be good but not that good. This kid is a natural and can only get better.

The flip-side is he's so slight that he'll take a beating game after game. He fought through his bad wrist tonight showing he's tough to his credit.

This kid is a player. Unbelieable. His skills translate.

He's wiry, but at 235 lbs he's bigger than you might expect. For example, he's 20 lbs bigger than when Nic Claxton entered the league (and an inch taller)


235!?? He looks a buck 90. :)

he's wiry. He's not Chet Holmgren skinny. Anybody that tall is going to weigh about 230 unless he's rail thin.
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Re: 2025 Summer League 

Post#371 » by KGdaBom » Fri Jul 11, 2025 12:35 pm

Klomp wrote:
Nick K wrote:235!?? He looks a buck 90. :)

To be fair, 45 lbs might be in the afro alone 8-)

In 2 years he will go 250 even if he cuts the afro.
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Re: 2025 Summer League 

Post#372 » by KGdaBom » Fri Jul 11, 2025 12:40 pm

Nick K wrote:
Worm Guts wrote:No doubt that Beringer looks like a revelation. Very impressive.


JB was the best player on the floor tonight. I thought he'd be good but not that good. This kid is a natural and can only get better.

The flip-side is he's so slight that he'll take a beating game after game. He fought through his bad wrist tonight showing he's tough to his credit.

This kid is a player. Unbelieable. His skills translate.

He's not that slight.
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Re: 2025 Summer League 

Post#373 » by gandlogo » Fri Jul 11, 2025 1:08 pm

My two favorite parts of Summer League basketball.

1. Watching Summer League basketball.

2. Seeing all the overreactions to one game of Summer League basketball.

Encouraging first baby steps for the Wolves. If Berry develops quickly and hastens Gobbie's departure, all the better.
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Re: 2025 Summer League 

Post#374 » by KGdaBom » Fri Jul 11, 2025 1:10 pm

gandlogo wrote:My two favorite parts of Summer League basketball.

1. Watching Summer League basketball.

2. Seeing all the overreactions to one game of Summer League basketball.

Encouraging first baby steps for the Wolves. If Berry develops quickly and hastens Gobbie's departure, all the better.

Yes it was only one game of SL, but I know what I saw. When do we play again?
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Re: 2025 Summer League 

Post#375 » by Sealab2024 » Fri Jul 11, 2025 1:44 pm

gandlogo wrote:My two favorite parts of Summer League basketball.

1. Watching Summer League basketball.

2. Seeing all the overreactions to one game of Summer League basketball.

Encouraging first baby steps for the Wolves. If Berry develops quickly and hastens Gobbie's departure, all the better.


Here's the thing. We're not talking about a hot shooting night or something like that. The kid played drop coverage like he was born to do it. You don't wake up the next morning and just forget how to play drop coverage. What he showed means he doesn't have to be taught how to protect the rim, just that his technique needs to be refined. That's huge. It means his defense will play once he masters the rotations.

On offense I saw him set a pick, pivot out to set a second pick and then dive to the basket with great timing. I saw him rim run to an opening and get the alley oop. I saw him battle for an offensive rebound, pump fake the hell out of the defense and dunk hard. Those are technical aspects that don't disappear on a bad night.

Of course it's just one summer league game but what I think got us is that he looks way, way more polished than advertised.
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Re: 2025 Summer League 

Post#376 » by Norseman79 » Fri Jul 11, 2025 2:34 pm

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gandlogo wrote:My two favorite parts of Summer League basketball.

1. Watching Summer League basketball.

2. Seeing all the overreactions to one game of Summer League basketball.

Encouraging first baby steps for the Wolves. If Berry develops quickly and hastens Gobbie's departure, all the better.


Here's the thing. We're not talking about a hot shooting night or something like that. The kid played drop coverage like he was born to do it. You don't wake up the next morning and just forget how to play drop coverage. What he showed means he doesn't have to be taught how to protect the rim, just that his technique needs to be refined. That's huge. It means his defense will play once he masters the rotations.

On offense I saw him set a pick, pivot out to set a second pick and then dive to the basket with great timing. I saw him rim run to an opening and get the alley oop. I saw him battle for an offensive rebound, pump fake the hell out of the defense and dunk hard. Those are technical aspects that don't disappear on a bad night.

Of course it's just one summer league game but what I think got us is that he looks way, way more polished than advertised.


Completely agree.

1. He passed the eye test. Size and athleticism checkout.

2. He passed the potential test. You could see raw ability that with refinement could be great

3. He surpassed playability expectations. If what we saw continues to show in games, he is legit in rotation backing up Rudy to start the year.
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Re: 2025 Summer League 

Post#377 » by Sealab2024 » Fri Jul 11, 2025 3:10 pm

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Sealab2024 wrote:
gandlogo wrote:My two favorite parts of Summer League basketball.

1. Watching Summer League basketball.

2. Seeing all the overreactions to one game of Summer League basketball.

Encouraging first baby steps for the Wolves. If Berry develops quickly and hastens Gobbie's departure, all the better.


Here's the thing. We're not talking about a hot shooting night or something like that. The kid played drop coverage like he was born to do it. You don't wake up the next morning and just forget how to play drop coverage. What he showed means he doesn't have to be taught how to protect the rim, just that his technique needs to be refined. That's huge. It means his defense will play once he masters the rotations.

On offense I saw him set a pick, pivot out to set a second pick and then dive to the basket with great timing. I saw him rim run to an opening and get the alley oop. I saw him battle for an offensive rebound, pump fake the hell out of the defense and dunk hard. Those are technical aspects that don't disappear on a bad night.

Of course it's just one summer league game but what I think got us is that he looks way, way more polished than advertised.


Completely agree.

1. He passed the eye test. Size and athleticism checkout.

2. He passed the potential test. You could see raw ability that with refinement could be great

3. He surpassed playability expectations. If what we saw continues to show in games, he is legit in rotation backing up Rudy to start the year.


Another thing I noticed that's a really good sign: how different the first two blocks in the first 30 seconds of the game were.

#1: missi has him posted up deep. JB plays good post defense without being faked into fouling and moves Yves towards the outside. Missi makes a good counter step inside leaving Joan a bit out of position, not a lot, just a little. Missi goes for the shot and Beringer recovers to his left, fully extended, and blocks the shot left handed.

#2: ball goes out to the perimeter on the right wing. Guard grabs the ball, drives right at the basket and shoots a floater. In textbook NBA Jam form JB exploding pogo sticks up and sends it to the sideline with his right hand at full extension.

Full body control in a freak athlete.
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Re: 2025 Summer League 

Post#378 » by Slim Tubby » Fri Jul 11, 2025 7:05 pm

* Mark Fears went to church today and prayed that he never sees Jaylen Clark ever again. I don't ever envision him being an offensive threat but Bruce Bowen gave his teams a winning edge simply with his defensive tenacity. Clark is an absolutely delightful menace.

* I couldn't be more excited about JB's huge potential and he seems like a kid willing to keep his head down and put in the work to reach it. His fluidity and athleticism is off the charts for a guy his size. Now we all just need to be a little patient.

* I'm really worried that Dilly will never be more than a backup PG in this league but he's easy to root for and hopefully he experiences an awakening to his overall game. How do we get our hands on Cason Wallace???

* TSJ played with good composure and even though his shot was off, he hit the boards and had an astonishing nine (9) assists.

* I know nothing about Cain and Bailey but was impressed with their minutes.

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Re: 2025 Summer League 

Post#379 » by KGdaBom » Fri Jul 11, 2025 7:19 pm

Slim Tubby wrote:* Mark Fears went to church today and prayed that he never sees Jaylen Clark ever again. I don't ever envision him being an offensive threat but Bruce Bowen gave his teams a winning edge simply with his defensive tenacity. Clark is an absolutely delightful menace.

* I couldn't be more excited about JB's huge potential and he seems like a kid willing to keep his head down and put in the work to reach it. His fluidity and athleticism is off the charts for a guy his size. Now we all just need to be a little patient.

* I'm really worried that Dilly will never be more than a backup PG in this league but he's easy to root for and hopefully he experiences an awakening to his overall game. How do we get our hands on Cason Wallace???

* TSJ played with good composure and even though his shot was off, he hit the boards and had an astonishing nine (9) assists.

* I know nothing about Cain and Bailey but was impressed with their minutes.

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To me Bailey was more or less invisible, but Cain seemed to make good things happen whenever he was on the court.
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Re: 2025 Summer League 

Post#380 » by minimus » Fri Jul 11, 2025 9:17 pm

Jase Richardson looks like Mike Conley from last season: hyper efficient scoring small guard

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