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Re: Butler has requested a trade part III Practice 

Post#381 » by mplsfonz23 » Thu Oct 11, 2018 6:26 pm

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Please go back to whatever board or hole you crawled out of to try and bash our organization as if most Wolves fans aren’t already aware of the issues at hand. You don’t know jacksh*t about KAT and Wiggins personally or professionally other than what you see on TV. You’d be embarrassed to be the parent of KAT or Wiggins???? What a stupid **** thing to say and the only one that should be embarrassed is you and your dumba$$ takes on a team and players you know NOTHING about.

They might have shortcomings when it comes to how well they play a **** game…yeah…a **** game. Everyone one on the planet knows that KAT needs to get better defensively but what did this “embarrassment” of a person do when Thibs traded for Butler? He deferred to Jimmy as a leader and saw his offensive utilization drop dramatically so Jimmy could get his. Did he go running to the media to cry and whine about it like a little b*tch? No he did not….he did what’s best for the team and his teammates, a concept that apparently Jimmy knows very little about.

KAT and Wiggins have kept their noses clean off the court, haven’t gotten into any legal trouble and haven’t been on social media embarrassing themselves and/or the organization. Your concept of someone being “soft” because they don’t have a very gregarious personality type or meet your personal standards of how people should behave is only overshadowed by the stupidity of your comments about being embarrassed for them because they aren’t good enough for your standards of playing a **** game.

Thank you. Glad I am not the only one who was pissed with this clown :wordyo:


So, now I'm a clown because I don't agree with you? Why do you guys feel like you have to personally attack a poster. That just tells me you are losing the argument on principle.

Didn't mean to call you a clown. But just the fact it bothered you lets me know you are SOFT.
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Re: Butler has requested a trade part III Practice 

Post#382 » by johnnyvann840 » Thu Oct 11, 2018 6:30 pm

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johnnyvann840 wrote:You guys are loving this.. Your board hasn't been this active in ....well, ever. Your team has not been in the news, on all the talk shows and ESPN Sportscenter and all the NBA shows and talk radio. You love it. This is great. You love turning not sports talk radio in your cars and hearing about the Timberwolves all day. You love being the center of attention. Admit it. You love it.

The Minnesota board is actually a pretty active community, and I can say confidently that none of us are pleased to be in the spotlight. Every single time Minnesota gets put in the spotlight, the team effectively gets pissed on by the media and is considered the laughingstock of the league; it is immensely tiresome.


I think this is going to turn out a little better. I think KAT and Wiggins needed to be called out publicly. Did Butler do it the right way? No. But the effect will be better this way. Is Butler a D bag? Yes, of course he is. But, he is the kind of D bag you WANT on your side if you want to win games.

He said in his interview that "it "COULD" be fixed".... I honestly believe that Karl Anthony is such a coddled baby that he is the one driving this. I think he is the reason practice was canceled. I think he is the reason why Jimmy thinks he has to/ wants to go. Financially and basketball wise. Towns has told the owner he won't play with him. Jimmy is too hard on him. Poor Karl Anthony. Towns challenged Jimmy yesterday and got beat down by Jimmy and the 3rd team, so poor Karl Anthony was probably embarrassed that this went public and know he won't practice if Jimmy is going to be there. That meanie, Jimmy Butler. That mean Bully.
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Re: Butler has requested a trade part III Practice 

Post#383 » by Domejandro » Thu Oct 11, 2018 6:33 pm

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johnnyvann840 wrote:You guys are loving this.. Your board hasn't been this active in ....well, ever. Your team has not been in the news, on all the talk shows and ESPN Sportscenter and all the NBA shows and talk radio. You love it. This is great. You love turning not sports talk radio in your cars and hearing about the Timberwolves all day. You love being the center of attention. Admit it. You love it.

The Minnesota board is actually a pretty active community, and I can say confidently that none of us are pleased to be in the spotlight. Every single time Minnesota gets put in the spotlight, the team effectively gets pissed on by the media and is considered the laughingstock of the league; it is immensely tiresome.


I think this is going to turn out a little better. I think KAT and Wiggins needed to be called out publicly. Did Butler do it the right way? No. But the effect will be better this way. Is Butler a D bag? Yes, of course he is. But, he is the kind of D bag you WANT on your side if you want to win games.

He said in his interview that "it "COULD" be fixed".... I honestly believe that Karl Anthony is such a coddled baby that he is the one driving this. I think he is the reason practice was canceled. I think he is the reason why Jimmy thinks he has to/ wants to go. Financially and basketball wise. Towns has told the owner he won't play with him. Jimmy is too hard on him. Poor Karl Anthony. Towns challenged Jimmy yesterday and got beat down by Jimmy and the 3rd team, so poor Karl Anthony was probably embarrassed that this went public and know he won't practice if Jimmy is going to be there. That meanie, Jimmy Butler. That mean Bully.

Karl-Anthony Towns wasn't the one who continually went behind the team's back, leaking narratives to the media throughout the off-season, nor was he the one that purposefully did not meet with the team, or fly with the players after the playoff loss to Houston. I think you are massively discounting how immature Jimmy Butler has been through the process, Karl-Anthony Towns didn't ask for Jimmy to be traded, Jimmy Butler did.

Jimmy doesn't want to be here, but he wants to be able to maximize his income. That is fine, except for the fact that he has undercut the team multiple times throughout this entire process.
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Re: Butler has requested a trade part III Practice 

Post#384 » by alabamawolf » Thu Oct 11, 2018 6:34 pm

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johnnyvann840 wrote:You guys are loving this.. Your board hasn't been this active in ....well, ever. Your team has not been in the news, on all the talk shows and ESPN Sportscenter and all the NBA shows and talk radio. You love it. This is great. You love turning not sports talk radio in your cars and hearing about the Timberwolves all day. You love being the center of attention. Admit it. You love it.

The Minnesota board is actually a pretty active community, and I can say confidently that none of us are pleased to be in the spotlight. Every single time Minnesota gets put in the spotlight, the team effectively gets pissed on by the media and is considered the laughingstock of the league; it is immensely tiresome.


I think this is going to turn out a little better. I think KAT and Wiggins needed to be called out publicly. Did Butler do it the right way? No. But the effect will be better this way. Is Butler a D bag? Yes, of course he is. But, he is the kind of D bag you WANT on your side if you want to win games.

He said in his interview that "it "COULD" be fixed".... I honestly believe that Karl Anthony is such a coddled baby that he is the one driving this. I think he is the reason practice was canceled. I think he is the reason why Jimmy thinks he has to/ wants to go. Financially and basketball wise. Towns has told the owner he won't play with him. Jimmy is too hard on him. Poor Karl Anthony. Towns challenged Jimmy yesterday and got beat down by Jimmy and the 3rd team, so poor Karl Anthony was probably embarrassed that this went public and know he won't practice if Jimmy is going to be there. That meanie, Jimmy Butler. That mean Bully.


Sounds like reckless speculation on your part
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Re: Butler has requested a trade part III Practice 

Post#385 » by johnnyvann840 » Thu Oct 11, 2018 6:39 pm

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Domejandro wrote:The Minnesota board is actually a pretty active community, and I can say confidently that none of us are pleased to be in the spotlight. Every single time Minnesota gets put in the spotlight, the team effectively gets pissed on by the media and is considered the laughingstock of the league; it is immensely tiresome.


I think this is going to turn out a little better. I think KAT and Wiggins needed to be called out publicly. Did Butler do it the right way? No. But the effect will be better this way. Is Butler a D bag? Yes, of course he is. But, he is the kind of D bag you WANT on your side if you want to win games.

He said in his interview that "it "COULD" be fixed".... I honestly believe that Karl Anthony is such a coddled baby that he is the one driving this. I think he is the reason practice was canceled. I think he is the reason why Jimmy thinks he has to/ wants to go. Financially and basketball wise. Towns has told the owner he won't play with him. Jimmy is too hard on him. Poor Karl Anthony. Towns challenged Jimmy yesterday and got beat down by Jimmy and the 3rd team, so poor Karl Anthony was probably embarrassed that this went public and know he won't practice if Jimmy is going to be there. That meanie, Jimmy Butler. That mean Bully.

Karl-Anthony Towns wasn't the one who continually went behind the team's back, leaking narratives to the media throughout the off-season, nor was he the one that purposefully did not meet with the team, or fly with the players after the playoff loss to Houston. I think you are massively discounting how immature Jimmy Butler has been through the process, Karl-Anthony Towns didn't ask for Jimmy to be traded, Jimmy Butler did.

Jimmy doesn't want to be here, but he wants to be able to maximize his income. That is fine, except for the fact that he has undercut the team multiple times throughout this entire process.


The facts that were reported by credible people, not bloggers and wannabes, said that Karl Anthony Towns went directly to the owner and demanded that Jimmy gets traded or he wouldn't sign his extension. Towns is the one who is making the situation untenable. Sounds to me like he is the diva and the baby here. Him and Wiggins and Wiggins brother and family. Those guys don't like to be told the truth. They can't take being pushed by somebody who wants to win.
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Re: Butler has requested a trade part III Practice 

Post#386 » by Macwolf527 » Thu Oct 11, 2018 6:39 pm

Shams Charania just tweeted that Jimmy Butler called a players only meeting today to air his feelings towards the situation. He expressed to the players that he would compete with them. Signs pointing to him staying with the franchise.
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Re: Butler has requested a trade part III Practice 

Post#387 » by alabamawolf » Thu Oct 11, 2018 6:42 pm

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I think this is going to turn out a little better. I think KAT and Wiggins needed to be called out publicly. Did Butler do it the right way? No. But the effect will be better this way. Is Butler a D bag? Yes, of course he is. But, he is the kind of D bag you WANT on your side if you want to win games.

He said in his interview that "it "COULD" be fixed".... I honestly believe that Karl Anthony is such a coddled baby that he is the one driving this. I think he is the reason practice was canceled. I think he is the reason why Jimmy thinks he has to/ wants to go. Financially and basketball wise. Towns has told the owner he won't play with him. Jimmy is too hard on him. Poor Karl Anthony. Towns challenged Jimmy yesterday and got beat down by Jimmy and the 3rd team, so poor Karl Anthony was probably embarrassed that this went public and know he won't practice if Jimmy is going to be there. That meanie, Jimmy Butler. That mean Bully.

Karl-Anthony Towns wasn't the one who continually went behind the team's back, leaking narratives to the media throughout the off-season, nor was he the one that purposefully did not meet with the team, or fly with the players after the playoff loss to Houston. I think you are massively discounting how immature Jimmy Butler has been through the process, Karl-Anthony Towns didn't ask for Jimmy to be traded, Jimmy Butler did.

Jimmy doesn't want to be here, but he wants to be able to maximize his income. That is fine, except for the fact that he has undercut the team multiple times throughout this entire process.


The facts that were reported by credible people, not bloggers and wannabes, said that Karl Anthony Towns went directly to the owner and demanded that Jimmy gets traded or he wouldn't sign his extension. Towns is the one who is making the situation untenable. Sounds to me like he is the diva and the baby here. Him and Wiggins and Wiggins brother and family. Those guys don't like to be told the truth. They can't take being pushed by somebody who wants to win.


I’m willing to bet you don’t know KAT personally so how can you say he doesnt want to be pushed? KG brags about KAT’s work ethic and mentality and he played with him. Maybe what they need is a better leader
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Re: Butler has requested a trade part III Practice 

Post#388 » by Calinks » Thu Oct 11, 2018 6:42 pm

Macwolf527 wrote:Shams Charania just tweeted that Jimmy Butler called a players only meeting today to air his feelings towards the situation. He expressed to the players that he would compete with them. Signs pointing to him staying with the franchise.

with everything he has said and done I don't see him staying long term but if he indeed is calling a players meeting and is hashing things out, that is great news. Even if he gets traded withing days/weeks it will be great if they can put this craziness behind them and be professionals and work together until a solution is made. If this is true its probably the best leadership move he has made since the season ended.
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Post#389 » by johnnyvann840 » Thu Oct 11, 2018 6:43 pm

Macwolf527 wrote:Shams Charania just tweeted that Jimmy Butler called a players only meeting today to air his feelings towards the situation. He expressed to the players that he would compete with them. Signs pointing to him staying with the franchise.


and there you have it. He is willing to stay, he just wants these guys to want it as much as he does. KAT is the one who went directly to the owner and said he wouldn't play with Butler. Butler is trying to mend things now that it looks like he is staying.

Watch this whole thing bring this team together like never before.
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Post#390 » by Domejandro » Thu Oct 11, 2018 6:44 pm

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Post#394 » by johnnyvann840 » Thu Oct 11, 2018 6:48 pm

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I’m willing to bet you don’t know KAT personally so how can you say he doesnt want to be pushed? KG brags about KAT’s work ethic and mentality and he played with him. Maybe what they need is a better leader


No, I don't know him. I wouldn't want to know him. He probably wouldn't spit on me (or you for that matter), if I was on fire. All I know is that he got his ass handed to him time and time again in the playoffs by Clint Capela. Owned and destroyed. If I were Jimmy I wouldn't want to sit next to him on the plane either after that debacle. the sad part is that Towns laid down and took it. Instead of fighting back and making it a competition he turned the other cheek and let Capela embarrass him. It was sad to watch as I was pulling hard for the Wolves. All I could think watching that was how bad Towns was as a competitor and how this team would go nowhere with him manning the 5. Maybe he should listen to Thibs and Jimmy.
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Post#395 » by Slim Tubby » Thu Oct 11, 2018 6:51 pm

Macwolf527 wrote:Shams Charania just tweeted that Jimmy Butler called a players only meeting today to air his feelings towards the situation. He expressed to the players that he would compete with them. Signs pointing to him staying with the franchise.


Good grief, Charlie Brown...if this all works out somehow and Jimmy plays this season with the Wolves, I'm going to buy a pet tarantula and eat an entire box of raisins filled with coconut.
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Re: Butler has requested a trade part III Practice 

Post#396 » by zero24gravity » Thu Oct 11, 2018 6:54 pm

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zero24gravity wrote:After reading more about Butler's comments/actions during & after that practice, my issue is Butler acts like he just wants to win & compete and says it's not about the money, but he asked to be traded to losing, big market teams. He didn't say "trade me anywhere I can win & play with teammates who play hard". Bad attitude and hypocritical statements are really souring me on a player that should be a perfect fit for a team like my Jazz (defensive studs all around, they play hard & selflessly). I just don't believe him. I think he's using those statements to try to make himself look good, when the reality is he's just looking for $$$, which includes marketability. Ironically, he may be destroying his marketability by coming across as such a grown-brat.

Sucks to see a (small market) team getting drug through the mud by another spoiled millionaire athlete. Hopefully there will be a silver lining, in which your 2 young stars (Wigs & KAT) wake up and play up to their amazing potential. (Because those 2 really do need to be called out, but in a more appropriate way.)


Give me a break. What are some of you people even talking about? My God. OF COURSE it's about MONEY. That doesn't mean it's not about winning too. The teams he wants to go to have max slots for him and ANOTHER player. But, of course the money has to be important.... even most important. It would for anybody. That doesn't mean he's hypocritical for saying he wants to win. It can be about both things you know.

He's a D bag no doubt about it.. so were a lot of great players. most of them actually. He just wants his teammates to work as hard as he does. I don't blame him.


Right, of course it's about money (even though he specifically said it's not). But I didn't see him saying that he would go anywhere that fits his style of playing & where he can win (again, I can single out the Jazz because if he wants a hard core defensive team who it also a top contender -- see the many predictions that they can be as good as 2nd in the West --, and could use a 2nd primary scorer). I think the issue people are having is that he's trying to use negative tactics vs his current teammate in order to cover up his real motivators, which are (as you said yourself) financial. You don't say you want to play for the Knicks, Nets, Clippers, etc. if your big beef is wanting to win & play with players who play "as hard as I do". Ask Melo how going to NYK worked out, or DWill to the Nets. They are long time losing cultures for a reason.

Simply put, IMO the NBA is running into a serious issue where the players are becoming much more infatuated with their "brand", than they are with their actual job, which is playing a game (for millions of dollars) in order to entertain their fans. So many poor examples of behavior lately (Kwai, Durant, G.Hay, Butler, etc, etc, etc). You're under contract, so lace up your shoes and go put out your best effort for the fans who pay your salary. Once that contract is over, fine, leave if you want to .... but do it with integrity.
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Post#397 » by alabamawolf » Thu Oct 11, 2018 6:54 pm

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I’m willing to bet you don’t know KAT personally so how can you say he doesnt want to be pushed? KG brags about KAT’s work ethic and mentality and he played with him. Maybe what they need is a better leader


No, I don't know him. I wouldn't want to know him. He probably wouldn't spit on me (or you for that matter), if I was on fire. All I know is that he got his ass handed to him time and time again in the playoffs by Clint Capela. Owned and destroyed. If I were Jimmy I wouldn't want to sit next to him on the plane either after that debacle. the sad part is that Towns laid down and took it. Instead of fighting back and making it a competition he turned the other cheek and let Capela embarrass him. It was sad to watch as I was pulling hard for the Wolves. All I could think watching that was how bad Towns was as a competitor and how this team would go nowhere with him manning the 5. Maybe he should listen to Thibs and Jimmy.


So your opinion is based on 5 games you’ve seen? Thanks for your analysis.
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Re: Butler has requested a trade part III Practice 

Post#398 » by mplsfonz23 » Thu Oct 11, 2018 6:55 pm

johnnyvann840 wrote:The facts that were reported by credible people, not bloggers and wannabes, said that Karl Anthony Towns went directly to the owner and demanded that Jimmy gets traded or he wouldn't sign his extension. Towns is the one who is making the situation untenable. Sounds to me like he is the diva and the baby here. Him and Wiggins and Wiggins brother and family. Those guys don't like to be told the truth. They can't take being pushed by somebody who wants to win.


Did you even see the Decision.....Ur I mean the ESPN jimmy interview? Jimmy Butler said he went to Thibs 4 days after the PO loss and demanded a trade. Thibs thought he could talk him out of it. Then he said he would stay if they moved asset around to give him a max extention. Then he said it's all about "winning." Then he demanded to be traded to three of the un-winningest teams in NY Brooklyn and LA.
Jimmy is a Diva, and flop-flops more than Brett Favre.

So get your facts str8. Towns had NOTHING to do with Jimmy asking out. And if he did, then Butler is SOFT.
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Post#399 » by Dewey » Thu Oct 11, 2018 6:58 pm

This just in ...

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Rumors swirl that Butler is in MN to stay, but Wiggins and Towns have asked to be traded. They have named the YMCA as the #1 preference for trade. Wiggins and Towns were unavailable for comment, but the wolvves are working behind the scenes to get something done. Both rumored to be very upset that Butler was just "showing off" when scrimmaging with one arm tied behind his back :dontknow: ... more to come.
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Re: Butler has requested a trade part III Practice 

Post#400 » by mplsfonz23 » Thu Oct 11, 2018 6:59 pm

Macwolf527 wrote:Shams Charania just tweeted that Jimmy Butler called a players only meeting today to air his feelings towards the situation. He expressed to the players that he would compete with them. Signs pointing to him staying with the franchise.
Flip Flop.
He doesn't know what he wants to do. He sees that no one is beating down the door for his services. Lets hope this drives up his market value (Miami) and make a last ditch offer.
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