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Re: Beasley Re-Sign for 4 years / $60M 

Post#381 » by RiRuHoops » Sat Dec 5, 2020 3:10 am

Culver to the G league till he finds his shot ?
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Re: Beasley Re-Sign for 4 years / $60M 

Post#382 » by KGdaBom » Sat Dec 5, 2020 3:45 am

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Dual wrote:What happened with Culver, I thought he was a great prospect. Did he was really bad last season to throw the towel with him so soon?


He's actually quite good on the defensive end, and I think he kind of got thrown to the beasts when they tried to make him a PG, but there's no doubt he disappointed in other ways. In particular you can't be a guard that shoots FT's as poorly (and shoots as poorly in general) as he did and hope to stick in the league. He's got to make major strides in those respects to stick in the league and that could be hard with both Beasley and Edwards in the way.


Imagine being the most recent #6 pick last year, the team giving you major minute loads as a rook. Then they trade for Beasley who comes in knocking down 42% in games. Then the team drafts Edwards. He better have been figuring that shot out this summer. I have no doubts he was trying.

he shot Fts over 70% in college. His problem shooting from the line is all mental. The Yips.
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Re: Beasley Re-Sign for 4 years / $60M 

Post#383 » by Jedzz » Sat Dec 5, 2020 4:25 am

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Jedzz wrote:
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He's actually quite good on the defensive end, and I think he kind of got thrown to the beasts when they tried to make him a PG, but there's no doubt he disappointed in other ways. In particular you can't be a guard that shoots FT's as poorly (and shoots as poorly in general) as he did and hope to stick in the league. He's got to make major strides in those respects to stick in the league and that could be hard with both Beasley and Edwards in the way.


Imagine being the most recent #6 pick last year, the team giving you major minute loads as a rook. Then they trade for Beasley who comes in knocking down 42% in games. Then the team drafts Edwards. He better have been figuring that shot out this summer. I have no doubts he was trying.

he shot Fts over 70% in college. His problem shooting from the line is all mental. The Yips.
It's not just his FTs but yes that as the unusually concerning part. Rookies are rookies sometimes. But it's not like he didn't get the playing time to work through the issues. I guess the season was shortened so who knows what he would have figured out in the last month.
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Re: Beasley Re-Sign for 4 years / $60M 

Post#384 » by KGdaBom » Sat Dec 5, 2020 5:15 am

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Imagine being the most recent #6 pick last year, the team giving you major minute loads as a rook. Then they trade for Beasley who comes in knocking down 42% in games. Then the team drafts Edwards. He better have been figuring that shot out this summer. I have no doubts he was trying.

he shot Fts over 70% in college. His problem shooting from the line is all mental. The Yips.
It's not just his FTs but yes that as the unusually concerning part. Rookies are rookies sometimes. But it's not like he didn't get the playing time to work through the issues. I guess the season was shortened so who knows what he would have figured out in the last month.

When people quit watching the season Culver started making his 3s. I hear 38 percent the last month.
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Post#385 » by Jedzz » Sat Dec 5, 2020 9:13 am

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KGdaBom wrote:he shot Fts over 70% in college. His problem shooting from the line is all mental. The Yips.
It's not just his FTs but yes that as the unusually concerning part. Rookies are rookies sometimes. But it's not like he didn't get the playing time to work through the issues. I guess the season was shortened so who knows what he would have figured out in the last month.

When people quit watching the season Culver started making his 3s. I hear 38 percent the last month.
Was that when JMac was sucking the defenses in and getting everyone all those open looks? Or after when Beasley was the center of attention?

From 2-10 to 3-10(last game) so a months time, he actually shot 42% from 3. Of course that's easier when most games he only shot two to four during that stretch but it's something.
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Re: Beasley Re-Sign for 4 years / $60M 

Post#386 » by KGdaBom » Sat Dec 5, 2020 9:18 am

Jedzz wrote:
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Jedzz wrote: It's not just his FTs but yes that as the unusually concerning part. Rookies are rookies sometimes. But it's not like he didn't get the playing time to work through the issues. I guess the season was shortened so who knows what he would have figured out in the last month.

When people quit watching the season Culver started making his 3s. I hear 38 percent the last month.
Was that when JMac was sucking the defenses in and getting everyone all those open looks? Or after when Beasley was the center of attention?

From 2-10 to 3-10(last game) so a months time, he actually shot 42% from 3. Of course that's easier when most games he only shot two to four during that stretch but it's something.

A month is a small, but somewhat significant sample size. I wonder why people continue to think his shot is broken. I'm quite hopeful.
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Re: Beasley Re-Sign for 4 years / $60M 

Post#387 » by Jedzz » Sat Dec 5, 2020 3:41 pm

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KGdaBom wrote:When people quit watching the season Culver started making his 3s. I hear 38 percent the last month.
Was that when JMac was sucking the defenses in and getting everyone all those open looks? Or after when Beasley was the center of attention?

From 2-10 to 3-10(last game) so a months time, he actually shot 42% from 3. Of course that's easier when most games he only shot two to four during that stretch but it's something.

A month is a small, but somewhat significant sample size. I wonder why people continue to think his shot is broken. I'm quite hopeful.


I think the amount of attempts kept in check and the pressure being taken on by others helped. But his FT % that last month was still just 50%. I think it's evident, he had to/has to get confortable with the pressure of the NBA scene standing in his own shoes. FT shooting is standing alone in front of everyone almost like giving speeches on a stage. He needs to imagine everyone in the stadium as naked. Isn't that the old speech trick?
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Re: Beasley Re-Sign for 4 years / $60M 

Post#388 » by KGdaBom » Sat Dec 5, 2020 5:11 pm

Jedzz wrote:
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Jedzz wrote: Was that when JMac was sucking the defenses in and getting everyone all those open looks? Or after when Beasley was the center of attention?

From 2-10 to 3-10(last game) so a months time, he actually shot 42% from 3. Of course that's easier when most games he only shot two to four during that stretch but it's something.

A month is a small, but somewhat significant sample size. I wonder why people continue to think his shot is broken. I'm quite hopeful.


I think the amount of attempts kept in check and the pressure being taken on by others helped. But his FT % that last month was still just 50%. I think it's evident, he had to/has to get confortable with the pressure of the NBA scene standing in his own shoes. FT shooting is standing alone in front of everyone almost like giving speeches on a stage. He needs to imagine everyone in the stadium as naked. Isn't that the old speech trick?

It's the Yips. Don't recall the last NBA player who had them.
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Re: Beasley Re-Sign for 4 years / $60M 

Post#389 » by Jedzz » Sat Dec 5, 2020 6:14 pm

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Jedzz wrote:
KGdaBom wrote:A month is a small, but somewhat significant sample size. I wonder why people continue to think his shot is broken. I'm quite hopeful.


I think the amount of attempts kept in check and the pressure being taken on by others helped. But his FT % that last month was still just 50%. I think it's evident, he had to/has to get confortable with the pressure of the NBA scene standing in his own shoes. FT shooting is standing alone in front of everyone almost like giving speeches on a stage. He needs to imagine everyone in the stadium as naked. Isn't that the old speech trick?

It's the Yips. Don't recall the last NBA player who had them.


It's not a clear case of the Yips. That would require first seeing the player with a significant ability to make shots over time suddenly and without understandable reasons completely lose any ability to shoot. Like watching Donovan McNabb reach numerous conference finals, but years later once wearing purple for Vikings he inexplicably threw passes into the grass over and over as if he was a 6 year old trying for the first time. That was the yips.

This is a player that had questionable consistency shooting in college, now in a tougher setting learning slowly to at least get back to what he was showing in college level. FT shooting is a unique aspect of basketball where no defender is actively trying to stop or pressure the shot, but all eyes are no longer on a team they are on that one person and there is time for your mind to creep in instead of reacting like in normal game play. It's a personal comfort thing in that setting he needs to get over. Some people never do. Which is why I hate drafting players that haven't yet proven they can do at least one thing at the highest levels during games yet. Games are where that pressure exists.
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Re: Beasley Re-Sign for 4 years / $60M 

Post#390 » by KGdaBom » Sat Dec 5, 2020 7:50 pm

Jedzz wrote:
KGdaBom wrote:
Jedzz wrote:
I think the amount of attempts kept in check and the pressure being taken on by others helped. But his FT % that last month was still just 50%. I think it's evident, he had to/has to get confortable with the pressure of the NBA scene standing in his own shoes. FT shooting is standing alone in front of everyone almost like giving speeches on a stage. He needs to imagine everyone in the stadium as naked. Isn't that the old speech trick?

It's the Yips. Don't recall the last NBA player who had them.


It's not a clear case of the Yips. That would require first seeing the player with a significant ability to make shots over time suddenly and without understandable reasons completely lose any ability to shoot. Like watching Donovan McNabb reach numerous conference finals, but years later once wearing purple for Vikings he inexplicably threw passes into the grass over and over as if he was a 6 year old trying for the first time. That was the yips.

This is a player that had questionable consistency shooting in college, now in a tougher setting learning slowly to at least get back to what he was showing in college level. FT shooting is a unique aspect of basketball where no defender is actively trying to stop or pressure the shot, but all eyes are no longer on a team they are on that one person and there is time for your mind to creep in instead of reacting like in normal game play. It's a personal comfort thing in that setting he needs to get over. Some people never do. Which is why I hate drafting players that haven't yet proven they can do at least one thing at the highest levels during games yet. Games are where that pressure exists.

I'm just talking about the FTs. Yips. No question about it.
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Post#391 » by Klomp » Sat Dec 5, 2020 9:29 pm

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Post#393 » by Calinks » Sat Dec 5, 2020 10:12 pm

Off the court, I am nervous but on the court, I am a huge believer in Beasley. I really do think he will be crucial for us when he plays. I expect big things, just as an on the court player I would prefer him to Wiggins if I had to choose easily, contracts being equal.
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Post#394 » by Revived » Sun Dec 6, 2020 2:24 am

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We can dig dirt on whole bunch more players if this is the case ... or it can be a basketball site


I mean whoever he dates is his deal, whatever.

But if he's gonna be fighting an NFL player or pointing a gun at a family that could lead him to getting arrested/suspended then it's fair to question his character.

Agreed. And if he can’t be loyal to his wife/baby mama, do you think he is going to be loyal to his team, if things get tough?

Who cares, I think it’s obvious that Malik Beasley isn’t the type of player that anyone would want their daughter to be with. Not all players are gonna be family oriented like Lebron or Curry. But with that being, rooting for Beasley to do well on the court is way different.
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Post#395 » by Note30 » Sun Dec 6, 2020 3:04 am

I hope we do trade him mid season for someone decent. If we could trade him to NOP that would be awesome. We could grab a couple of solid players from there.
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Post#396 » by Neeva » Sun Dec 6, 2020 3:27 am

Only way wolves trade their best shooter is if Russell, Edwards and Rubio are all shooting well from three and Okogie and Culver have improved but what would wolves want from the Pelicans? More than likely wolves will try to trade him for a forward.
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Post#397 » by Note30 » Sun Dec 6, 2020 4:19 am

Neeva wrote:Only way wolves trade their best shooter is if Russell, Edwards and Rubio are all shooting well from three and Okogie and Culver have improved but what would wolves want from the Pelicans? More than likely wolves will try to trade him for a forward.


No locker room issue is worth 40% 3P shooting.

Yeah I mean NOP aside there are plenty of good players we could target.
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Post#398 » by Mamba4Goat » Sun Dec 6, 2020 9:06 am

Part of me also hopes the Wolves trade Beas mid season to fill the depth out a little more. However, with how much the front office has backed him/supported him I wouldn’t be shocked if he’s viewed as a key future piece and only goes in a star trade.
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Post#399 » by Slim Tubby » Sun Dec 6, 2020 10:28 am

Like it or not, we didn’t sign Beasley to a 4/$60M contract with the intent on trying to trade him unless it was salary ballast in an immediate S&T deal which didn’t happen.

It’s clear that Rosas views him as an integral, long term piece of the puzzle here. That might be a tough pill for some folks here to swallow.

Personally, I hope he helps the team win but he won’t be easy to root for, especially if he struggles on the court. He might be a turd in life but he is a talented, young player and that buys you some extra grace in the world we live in today.


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Re: Beasley Re-Sign for 4 years / $60M 

Post#400 » by SSUBluesman » Sun Dec 6, 2020 3:32 pm

KGdaBom wrote:
Jedzz wrote:
KGdaBom wrote:A month is a small, but somewhat significant sample size. I wonder why people continue to think his shot is broken. I'm quite hopeful.


I think the amount of attempts kept in check and the pressure being taken on by others helped. But his FT % that last month was still just 50%. I think it's evident, he had to/has to get confortable with the pressure of the NBA scene standing in his own shoes. FT shooting is standing alone in front of everyone almost like giving speeches on a stage. He needs to imagine everyone in the stadium as naked. Isn't that the old speech trick?

It's the Yips. Don't recall the last NBA player who had them.


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Which is why I don't think it's the yips, and hope that I'm right given what happened to Beans.
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