Trade Talk (Part Eight)

[VeritasTri]

You are correct, it was a rhetorical "what?". It didn't require an answer. Your post was confused and I wasn't sure if it was intentional or not, though it read as though it was your belief.

The last thing I need is confirmation from you to know im correct.

Why am I not surprised you dont know the proper use of rhetorical, short bus.

[VeritasTri]

If you think you can't play the perimeter and driving lanes at the same time...okay...but you can. It is how you play defense.

Again, just more of you saying sh*t with no explanation or backing in reality. Entire offenses are built around the concept of forcing help to generate openings but apparently thats all bullsh*t. Why hedge off your guy or leave to help when you can just effectively guard your man and other guys.

You should have been our defensive coordinator. When the players asked you how you expect them to be in two places at once you can just tell them "thats just how you play defense" then walk away feeling like a champ.

[SO_MONEY]

If you think you can't play the perimeter and driving lanes at the same time...okay...but you can. It is how you play defense.

Again, just more of you saying sh*t with no explanation or backing in reality. Entire offenses are built around the concept of forcing help to generate openings but apparently thats all bullsh*t. Why hedge off your guy or leave to help when you can just effectively guard your man and other guys.

You should have been our defensive coordinator. When the players asked you how you expect them to be in two places at once you can just tell them "thats just how you play defense" then walk away feeling like a champ.

You think that Simmons would find it easy to slip a single gap then have an additional defender to beat on top of that...? That is what you are saying and you are wrong because it works, not just against Simmons.

[shrink]

Maybe you should mind your own business rather than commenting on conversations between so_money and myself? Since you clearly are missing the context of previous conversations.

Let me ask you an honest adult question. Do you think So_moneys response of "what" was a good faith "asking for clarification" or an attempt to pose my logical explanation as nonsensical? If you think he wanted genuine discourse then maybe you should be on the bus with him.

The bolded part was a very well explained defense of your rudeness to So Money. IMO you went too far lumping Shrink in with him. Don't let So Money get the best of you. Just put him on ignore like I have.

Shrink don't you see that So Money never debates in good faith?

Adults are responsible for what adults post. “Some other guy made me!” Is a childish dodge of responsibility.

There is no excuse to posting stuff about “drooling,” and then the “short bus.” That’s not a debate, it’s just childish insults. Your choices to make those posts add nothing to this public forum, and you are responsible for making your choices. And this isn’t the first day you’ve done it. I am asking you to stop doing it in the future.

[King Malta]

Maybe you should mind your own business rather than commenting on conversations between so_money and myself? Since you clearly are missing the context of previous conversations.

Let me ask you an honest adult question. Do you think So_moneys response of "what" was a good faith "asking for clarification" or an attempt to pose my logical explanation as nonsensical? If you think he wanted genuine discourse then maybe you should be on the bus with him.

The bolded part was a very well explained defense of your rudeness to So Money. IMO you went too far lumping Shrink in with him. Don't let So Money get the best of you. Just put him on ignore like I have.

Shrink don't you see that So Money never debates in good faith?

Adults are responsible for what adults post. “Some other guy made me!” Is a childish dodge of responsibility.

There is no excuse to posting stuff about “drooling,” and then the “short bus.” That’s not a debate, it’s just childish insults. Your choices to make those posts add nothing to this public forum, and you are responsible for making your choices. And this isn’t the first day you’ve done it. I am asking you to stop doing it in the future.

Come on Shrink, you're a reasonable guy.

Veritas shouldnt be taking the bait, but SM's posting the last few weeks has consistently been confrontational and prickly, hand waving away any arguments he doesn't agree with and needling for reactions with blunt and sarcastic responses.

I feel like you're almost deliberately overlooking his antagonistic behaviour and bad faith arguments because he's debating from your side of the fence as far as Simmons

[KGdaBom]

Maybe you should mind your own business rather than commenting on conversations between so_money and myself? Since you clearly are missing the context of previous conversations.

Let me ask you an honest adult question. Do you think So_moneys response of "what" was a good faith "asking for clarification" or an attempt to pose my logical explanation as nonsensical? If you think he wanted genuine discourse then maybe you should be on the bus with him.

The bolded part was a very well explained defense of your rudeness to So Money. IMO you went too far lumping Shrink in with him. Don't let So Money get the best of you. Just put him on ignore like I have.

Shrink don't you see that So Money never debates in good faith?

Adults are responsible for what adults post. “Some other guy made me!” Is a childish dodge of responsibility.

There is no excuse to posting stuff about “drooling,” and then the “short bus.” That’s not a debate, it’s just childish insults. Your choices to make those posts add nothing to this public forum, and you are responsible for making your choices. And this isn’t the first day you’ve done it. I am asking you to stop doing it in the future.

What the hell are you talking about. I'm not the one who was doing it. I even told Veritas he had gone too far. However, I can understand how some people can push your buttons. If you can't get how So Money drives people to bad behavior than you are being a little out of touch and possibly sanctimonious.

[KGdaBom]

Maybe you should mind your own business rather than commenting on conversations between so_money and myself? Since you clearly are missing the context of previous conversations.

Let me ask you an honest adult question. Do you think So_moneys response of "what" was a good faith "asking for clarification" or an attempt to pose my logical explanation as nonsensical? If you think he wanted genuine discourse then maybe you should be on the bus with him.

The bolded part was a very well explained defense of your rudeness to So Money. IMO you went too far lumping Shrink in with him. Don't let So Money get the best of you. Just put him on ignore like I have.

Shrink don't you see that So Money never debates in good faith?

Adults are responsible for what adults post. “Some other guy made me!” Is a childish dodge of responsibility.

There is no excuse to posting stuff about “drooling,” and then the “short bus.” That’s not a debate, it’s just childish insults. Your choices to make those posts add nothing to this public forum, and you are responsible for making your choices. And this isn’t the first day you’ve done it. I am asking you to stop doing it in the future.

Come on Shrink, you're a reasonable guy.

Veritas shouldnt be taking the bait, but SM's posting the last few weeks has consistently been confrontational and prickly, hand waving away any arguments he doesn't agree with and needling for reactions with blunt and sarcastic responses.

I feel like you're almost deliberately overlooking his antagonistic behaviour and bad faith arguments because he's debating from your side of the fence as far as Simmons

Defending So Money IMO is indefensible.

[SO_MONEY]

Maybe you should mind your own business rather than commenting on conversations between so_money and myself? Since you clearly are missing the context of previous conversations.

Let me ask you an honest adult question. Do you think So_moneys response of "what" was a good faith "asking for clarification" or an attempt to pose my logical explanation as nonsensical? If you think he wanted genuine discourse then maybe you should be on the bus with him.

The bolded part was a very well explained defense of your rudeness to So Money. IMO you went too far lumping Shrink in with him. Don't let So Money get the best of you. Just put him on ignore like I have.

Shrink don't you see that So Money never debates in good faith?

Adults are responsible for what adults post. “Some other guy made me!” Is a childish dodge of responsibility.

There is no excuse to posting stuff about “drooling,” and then the “short bus.” That’s not a debate, it’s just childish insults. Your choices to make those posts add nothing to this public forum, and you are responsible for making your choices. And this isn’t the first day you’ve done it. I am asking you to stop doing it in the future.

Come on Shrink, you're a reasonable guy.

Veritas shouldnt be taking the bait, but SM's posting the last few weeks has consistently been confrontational and prickly, hand waving away any arguments he doesn't agree with and needling for reactions with blunt and sarcastic responses.

I feel like you're almost deliberately overlooking his antagonistic behaviour and bad faith arguments because he's debating from your side of the fence as far as Simmons

This makes me chuckle a little.

Without a doubt I am an aquired taste, but my blunt, abrupt, prickly, sarcastic, harsh... honest, upfront, thought out comments are not at all antagonist if viewed from a lens that recognizes the psychological terrorism, gaslighting and outright dishonesty of posters. You can gloss over that and make me your villain, I will wear the black hat, but it is one sided.

I have a caustic personality...I get it... anything else?

[Krapinsky]

Adults are responsible for what adults post. “Some other guy made me!” Is a childish dodge of responsibility.

There is no excuse to posting stuff about “drooling,” and then the “short bus.” That’s not a debate, it’s just childish insults. Your choices to make those posts add nothing to this public forum, and you are responsible for making your choices. And this isn’t the first day you’ve done it. I am asking you to stop doing it in the future.

Come on Shrink, you're a reasonable guy.

Veritas shouldnt be taking the bait, but SM's posting the last few weeks has consistently been confrontational and prickly, hand waving away any arguments he doesn't agree with and needling for reactions with blunt and sarcastic responses.

I feel like you're almost deliberately overlooking his antagonistic behaviour and bad faith arguments because he's debating from your side of the fence as far as Simmons

This makes me chuckle a little.

Without a doubt I am an aquired taste, but my blunt, abrupt, prickly, sarcastic, harsh... honest, upfront, thought out comments are not at all antagonist if viewed from a lens that recognizes the psychological terrorism, gaslighting and outright dishonesty of posters. You can gloss over that and make me your villain, I will wear the black hat, but it is one sided.

I have a caustic personality...I get it... anything else?

Damn, the Minnesota Timberwolves fans forum is getting wild y'all.

[SO_MONEY]

Come on Shrink, you're a reasonable guy.

Veritas shouldnt be taking the bait, but SM's posting the last few weeks has consistently been confrontational and prickly, hand waving away any arguments he doesn't agree with and needling for reactions with blunt and sarcastic responses.

I feel like you're almost deliberately overlooking his antagonistic behaviour and bad faith arguments because he's debating from your side of the fence as far as Simmons

This makes me chuckle a little.

Without a doubt I am an aquired taste, but my blunt, abrupt, prickly, sarcastic, harsh... honest, upfront, thought out comments are not at all antagonist if viewed from a lens that recognizes the psychological terrorism, gaslighting and outright dishonesty of posters. You can gloss over that and make me your villain, I will wear the black hat, but it is one sided.

I have a caustic personality...I get it... anything else?

Damn, the Minnesota Timberwolves fans forum is getting wild y'all.

True. Lol.

[KGdaBom]

Come on Shrink, you're a reasonable guy.

Veritas shouldnt be taking the bait, but SM's posting the last few weeks has consistently been confrontational and prickly, hand waving away any arguments he doesn't agree with and needling for reactions with blunt and sarcastic responses.

I feel like you're almost deliberately overlooking his antagonistic behaviour and bad faith arguments because he's debating from your side of the fence as far as Simmons

This makes me chuckle a little.

Without a doubt I am an aquired taste, but my blunt, abrupt, prickly, sarcastic, harsh... honest, upfront, thought out comments are not at all antagonist if viewed from a lens that recognizes the psychological terrorism, gaslighting and outright dishonesty of posters. You can gloss over that and make me your villain, I will wear the black hat, but it is one sided.

I have a caustic personality...I get it... anything else?

Damn, the Minnesota Timberwolves fans forum is getting wild y'all.

SM calling himself Honest and others dishonest is the biggest joke of all. He probably has some nice beachfront swampland in Florida for sale. Or some Oceanfront Property in Arizona.

[King Malta]

Adults are responsible for what adults post. “Some other guy made me!” Is a childish dodge of responsibility.

There is no excuse to posting stuff about “drooling,” and then the “short bus.” That’s not a debate, it’s just childish insults. Your choices to make those posts add nothing to this public forum, and you are responsible for making your choices. And this isn’t the first day you’ve done it. I am asking you to stop doing it in the future.

Come on Shrink, you're a reasonable guy.

Veritas shouldnt be taking the bait, but SM's posting the last few weeks has consistently been confrontational and prickly, hand waving away any arguments he doesn't agree with and needling for reactions with blunt and sarcastic responses.

I feel like you're almost deliberately overlooking his antagonistic behaviour and bad faith arguments because he's debating from your side of the fence as far as Simmons

This makes me chuckle a little.

Without a doubt I am an aquired taste, but my blunt, abrupt, prickly, sarcastic... honest, upfront, thought out comments are not at all antagonist if viewed from a lens that recognizes the psychological terrorism, gaslighting and outright dishonesty of posters. You can gloss over that and make me your villain, I will wear the black hat, but it is one sided.

I have a caustic personality...I get it... anything else?

Yes, YOU'RE the one being gaslighted here

[King Malta]

Come on Shrink, you're a reasonable guy.

Veritas shouldnt be taking the bait, but SM's posting the last few weeks has consistently been confrontational and prickly, hand waving away any arguments he doesn't agree with and needling for reactions with blunt and sarcastic responses.

I feel like you're almost deliberately overlooking his antagonistic behaviour and bad faith arguments because he's debating from your side of the fence as far as Simmons

This makes me chuckle a little.

Without a doubt I am an aquired taste, but my blunt, abrupt, prickly, sarcastic, harsh... honest, upfront, thought out comments are not at all antagonist if viewed from a lens that recognizes the psychological terrorism, gaslighting and outright dishonesty of posters. You can gloss over that and make me your villain, I will wear the black hat, but it is one sided.

I have a caustic personality...I get it... anything else?

Damn, the Minnesota Timberwolves fans forum is getting wild y'all.

All guards and no bigs make Wolves RealGM something something...

[shrink]

Maybe you should mind your own business rather than commenting on conversations between so_money and myself? Since you clearly are missing the context of previous conversations.

Let me ask you an honest adult question. Do you think So_moneys response of "what" was a good faith "asking for clarification" or an attempt to pose my logical explanation as nonsensical? If you think he wanted genuine discourse then maybe you should be on the bus with him.

The bolded part was a very well explained defense of your rudeness to So Money. IMO you went too far lumping Shrink in with him. Don't let So Money get the best of you. Just put him on ignore like I have.

Shrink don't you see that So Money never debates in good faith?

Adults are responsible for what adults post. “Some other guy made me!” Is a childish dodge of responsibility.

There is no excuse to posting stuff about “drooling,” and then the “short bus.” That’s not a debate, it’s just childish insults. Your choices to make those posts add nothing to this public forum, and you are responsible for making your choices. And this isn’t the first day you’ve done it. I am asking you to stop doing it in the future.

What the hell are you talking about. I'm not the one who was doing it. I even told Veritas he had gone too far. However, I can understand how some people can push your buttons. If you can't get how So Money drives people to bad behavior than you are being a little out of touch and possibly sanctimonious.

I could care less what So Money posted. I guess you should read my post again.

Adults are responsible for what adults post. “Some other guy made me!” Is a childish dodge of responsibility.

There is no excuse to posting stuff about “drooling,” and then the “short bus.” That’s not a debate, it’s just childish insults. Your choices to make those posts add nothing to this public forum, and you are responsible for making your choices.

[SO_MONEY]

Adults are responsible for what adults post. “Some other guy made me!” Is a childish dodge of responsibility.

There is no excuse to posting stuff about “drooling,” and then the “short bus.” That’s not a debate, it’s just childish insults. Your choices to make those posts add nothing to this public forum, and you are responsible for making your choices. And this isn’t the first day you’ve done it. I am asking you to stop doing it in the future.

What the hell are you talking about. I'm not the one who was doing it. I even told Veritas he had gone too far. However, I can understand how some people can push your buttons. If you can't get how So Money drives people to bad behavior than you are being a little out of touch and possibly sanctimonious.

I could care less what So Money posted. I guess you should read my post again.

Adults are responsible for what adults post. “Some other guy made me!” Is a childish dodge of responsibility.

There is no excuse to posting stuff about “drooling,” and then the “short bus.” That’s not a debate, it’s just childish insults. Your choices to make those posts add nothing to this public forum, and you are responsible for making your choices.

Couldn't, couldn't care less...

Get on the bus Gus.

[KGdaBom]

Adults are responsible for what adults post. “Some other guy made me!” Is a childish dodge of responsibility.

There is no excuse to posting stuff about “drooling,” and then the “short bus.” That’s not a debate, it’s just childish insults. Your choices to make those posts add nothing to this public forum, and you are responsible for making your choices. And this isn’t the first day you’ve done it. I am asking you to stop doing it in the future.

What the hell are you talking about. I'm not the one who was doing it. I even told Veritas he had gone too far. However, I can understand how some people can push your buttons. If you can't get how So Money drives people to bad behavior than you are being a little out of touch and possibly sanctimonious.

I could care less what So Money posted. I guess you should read my post again.

Adults are responsible for what adults post. “Some other guy made me!” Is a childish dodge of responsibility.

There is no excuse to posting stuff about “drooling,” and then the “short bus.” That’s not a debate, it’s just childish insults. Your choices to make those posts add nothing to this public forum, and you are responsible for making your choices.

I read your post entirely. I understood it. In some ways I think you're right. On the other hand your being oblivious to the reality that people don't take kindly to what SM is dishing out is why I said you were being possibly sanctimonious. It's no longer a possibility. It's a fact. You are being sanctimonious.

[shrink]

What the hell are you talking about. I'm not the one who was doing it. I even told Veritas he had gone too far. However, I can understand how some people can push your buttons. If you can't get how So Money drives people to bad behavior than you are being a little out of touch and possibly sanctimonious.

I could care less what So Money posted. I guess you should read my post again.

Adults are responsible for what adults post. “Some other guy made me!” Is a childish dodge of responsibility.

There is no excuse to posting stuff about “drooling,” and then the “short bus.” That’s not a debate, it’s just childish insults. Your choices to make those posts add nothing to this public forum, and you are responsible for making your choices.

I read your post entirely. I understood it. In some ways I think you're right. On the other hand your being oblivious to the reality that people don't take kindly to what SM is dishing out is why I said you were being possibly sanctimonious. It's no longer a possibility. It's a fact. You are being sanctimonious.

If you read it and understood it, you’d be ashamed to bring up again, “but look what the other guy did!”

And you’re right, maybe I am being sanctimonious, and I haven’t always been a perfect poster. But come on. Many of these posts on the last three pages are simply name-calling - no content whatsoever. I believe we can discuss things, and regardless of whether we disagree with the someone’s position or the way he or she posts, the absolute minimum we should be able to do is to not resort to being name-calling children.

[winforlose]

To everyone from the last 5 or so posts can we please start a new thread where you guys explain the value of incorrect comparisons, petty name calling, and explaining to those involved why they are wrong. I would honestly prefer we keep this thread about trades if possible.

[KGdaBom]

I could care less what So Money posted. I guess you should read my post again.

I read your post entirely. I understood it. In some ways I think you're right. On the other hand your being oblivious to the reality that people don't take kindly to what SM is dishing out is why I said you were being possibly sanctimonious. It's no longer a possibility. It's a fact. You are being sanctimonious.

If you read it and understood it, you’d be ashamed to bring up again, “but look what the other guy did!”

And you’re right, maybe I am being sanctimonious, and I haven’t always been a perfect poster. But come on. Many of these posts on the last three pages are simply name-calling - no content whatsoever. I believe we can discuss things, and regardless of whether we disagree with the someone’s position or the way he or she posts, the absolute minimum we should be able to do is to not resort to being name-calling children.

Great post. You admitted your own flaws and then requested others do the right thing. I join you in requesting that the name calling stops. We should not be name calling. I'm just saying in this one case be a little understanding despite it all.

[KGdaBom]

To everyone from the last 5 or so posts can we please start a new thread where you guys explain the value of incorrect comparisons, petty name calling, and explaining to those involved why they are wrong. I would honestly prefer we keep this thread about trades if possible.

Fair enough.