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Re: Draft Day: Round 2 

Post#381 » by karch34 » Fri Jun 27, 2025 2:01 am

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Re: Draft Day: Round 2 

Post#382 » by GopherIt! » Fri Jun 27, 2025 2:01 am

interesting. i guess I'm gonna have to go throw another shrimp on the barbie and watch rocco's draft tape.
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Re: Draft Day: Round 2 

Post#383 » by winforlose » Fri Jun 27, 2025 2:01 am

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Domejandro wrote:Overall, it is an alright draft. Nothing spectacular, but I like taking a gamble of a long-term Rudy replacement, replenishing a couple seconds, and getting a funky draft-and-stash that we can track.

Would love to see Rocco Zikarsky in Summer League to determine if he’s ready for a two-way. I kind of doubt it, but worth doing!


Two way?

Jesse Edwards level players get 2 ways!

Give him a HInkie and goodbye Garza and Minott.
Only question is this year or next.
In fact if he takes the absolute rookie min the 1st year it would save us a cool mil vs the luxury tax versus a vet min.


Would be awesome if Rocco becomes a cult hero like Naz Reid and makes everyone forget about the other Rocco in town.


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Re: Draft Day: Round 2 

Post#384 » by GopherIt! » Fri Jun 27, 2025 2:03 am

so theses 2 french centers and an aussie center walk into a bar in minneapolis...
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Post#385 » by Devilzsidewalk » Fri Jun 27, 2025 2:04 am

I like that he showed pretty quick reaction time and solid hands on offensive rebounds. If you're 7'4", the offensive glass has gotta be your home, and it seems like he might have that. As with all giant human folk, it'll come down to whether his body can hold up to the schedule, and also training to put on some muscles. If he can make it through that - big if for the giant folk - then it's a nice piece. Idk, a super tall center just hits harder than some random small foward prospect, no? I'll never turn down a look at a 7'4" guy in the 2nd round.
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Re: Draft Day: Round 2 

Post#386 » by TLand0026 » Fri Jun 27, 2025 2:07 am

His Parents were both big time althetes.
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Re: Draft Day: Round 2 

Post#387 » by younggunsmn » Fri Jun 27, 2025 2:08 am

Domejandro wrote:
younggunsmn wrote:
Domejandro wrote:Overall, it is an alright draft. Nothing spectacular, but I like taking a gamble of a long-term Rudy replacement, replenishing a couple seconds, and getting a funky draft-and-stash that we can track.

Would love to see Rocco Zikarsky in Summer League to determine if he’s ready for a two-way. I kind of doubt it, but worth doing!


Two way?

Jesse Edwards level players get 2 ways!

Give him a HInkie and goodbye Garza and Minott.
Only question is this year or next.
In fact if he takes the absolute rookie min the 1st year it would save us a cool mil vs the luxury tax versus a vet min.


Would be awesome if Rocco becomes a cult hero like Naz Reid and makes everyone forget about the other Rocco in town.

He’s pretty far behind even players like Jesse Edwards when it comes to on-the-court impact, it’s just that he (hopefully) has significantly more upside.

Honestly, the team would benefit from getting him on a two-way, rather than wasting his cheap rookie-deal years on a season where he has no chance in hell of getting NBA minutes. Only real restriction is that he wouldn’t be able to play in the Playoffs, which would (God willing) never happen this season.


Nobody is behind Jesse Edwards in on-court impact!
I think the Jaylen Clarke two way was a bit of an aberration in that he was going to miss the whole season to injury and he was picked at 51.

The better path is to let Rocco keep developing in Australia for a year or two.
The danger there is that he gets a big buck offer in Europe and all of a sudden you are no longer able to bring him over for your Hinkie special.

The Hinkie special (2nd round pick exception, rookie min 2yr+2 team options) could actually save us a mil against the tax this year.
And having a huge shotblocker with a 9'6.5 reach as your 3rd big is not the worst thing in the world either.

I think a 2 way is the worst option and I wouldn't leave him overseas for more than one year.
But thats just me.
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Post#388 » by younggunsmn » Fri Jun 27, 2025 2:11 am

I'm nicknaming him Inglemus Prime since he's an Aussie and a lefty.
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Post#389 » by winforlose » Fri Jun 27, 2025 2:11 am

younggunsmn wrote:
Domejandro wrote:
younggunsmn wrote:
Two way?

Jesse Edwards level players get 2 ways!

Give him a HInkie and goodbye Garza and Minott.
Only question is this year or next.
In fact if he takes the absolute rookie min the 1st year it would save us a cool mil vs the luxury tax versus a vet min.


Would be awesome if Rocco becomes a cult hero like Naz Reid and makes everyone forget about the other Rocco in town.

He’s pretty far behind even players like Jesse Edwards when it comes to on-the-court impact, it’s just that he (hopefully) has significantly more upside.

Honestly, the team would benefit from getting him on a two-way, rather than wasting his cheap rookie-deal years on a season where he has no chance in hell of getting NBA minutes. Only real restriction is that he wouldn’t be able to play in the Playoffs, which would (God willing) never happen this season.


Nobody is behind Jesse Edwards in on-court impact.
I think the Jaylen Clarke two way was a bit of an aberration in that he was going to miss the whole season to injury and he was picked at 51.

The better path is to let him keep developing in Australia for a year or two.
The danger there is that he gets a big buck offer in Europe and all of a sudden you are no longer able to bring him over for your Hinkie special.

The Hinkie special (2nd round pick exception, rookie min 2+2 team options) could actually save us a mil against the tax this year.
And having a huge shotblocker with a 9'6.5 reach as your 3rd big is not the worst thing in the world either.

I think a 2 way is the worst option and I wouldnt leave him overseas for more than one year.
But thats just me.


Chris Finch loves Luka Garza. So much so that he would rather let Garza sabotage a game (happened multiple times,) then risk letting Leonard Miller try and play in competitive minutes. I don’t see Finch letting TC dump Garza for RZ. I personally think Garza is more mascot than player and a waste of a roster spot, but that is where we are. As for the Hinkie, cannot we keep RZ for two years as a two way, then Hinkie him for another 4?
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Re: Draft Day: Round 2 

Post#390 » by WolfAddict » Fri Jun 27, 2025 2:13 am

Aussie aussie aussie!!!
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Post#391 » by Neeva » Fri Jun 27, 2025 2:13 am

I wanted the other Aussie:/
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Post#392 » by younggunsmn » Fri Jun 27, 2025 2:14 am

I'm wrong again. 2 way it is.
Maybe he changes their minds in summer league.
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Re: Draft Day: Round 2 

Post#393 » by WolfAddict » Fri Jun 27, 2025 2:15 am

Neeva wrote:I wanted the other Aussie:/

Toohey?

(I wanted him just so I scream "I feel like a Tooheys or 2!!!")
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Re: Draft Day: Round 2 

Post#394 » by Klomp » Fri Jun 27, 2025 2:15 am

younggunsmn wrote:I'm nicknaming him Inglemus Prime since he's an Aussie and a lefty.

I'll just call him Luc Longley
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Re: Draft Day: Round 2 

Post#395 » by Domejandro » Fri Jun 27, 2025 2:15 am

younggunsmn wrote:
Domejandro wrote:
younggunsmn wrote:
Two way?

Jesse Edwards level players get 2 ways!

Give him a HInkie and goodbye Garza and Minott.
Only question is this year or next.
In fact if he takes the absolute rookie min the 1st year it would save us a cool mil vs the luxury tax versus a vet min.


Would be awesome if Rocco becomes a cult hero like Naz Reid and makes everyone forget about the other Rocco in town.

He’s pretty far behind even players like Jesse Edwards when it comes to on-the-court impact, it’s just that he (hopefully) has significantly more upside.

Honestly, the team would benefit from getting him on a two-way, rather than wasting his cheap rookie-deal years on a season where he has no chance in hell of getting NBA minutes. Only real restriction is that he wouldn’t be able to play in the Playoffs, which would (God willing) never happen this season.


Nobody is behind Jesse Edwards in on-court impact!
I think the Jaylen Clarke two way was a bit of an aberration in that he was going to miss the whole season to injury and he was picked at 51.

The better path is to let Rocco keep developing in Australia for a year or two.
The danger there is that he gets a big buck offer in Europe and all of a sudden you are no longer able to bring him over for your Hinkie special.

The Hinkie special (2nd round pick exception, rookie min 2yr+2 team options) could actually save us a mil against the tax this year.
And having a huge shotblocker with a 9'6.5 reach as your 3rd big is not the worst thing in the world either.

I think a 2 way is the worst option and I wouldn't leave him overseas for more than one year.
But thats just me.

Respectfully disagree, there is a tremendous amount of value in getting a player integrated into your system and development staff. The two-way exists exactly for situations where a player is extremely raw, but you want to play a direct role in their development.
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Post#396 » by Neeva » Fri Jun 27, 2025 2:16 am

WolfAddict wrote:
Neeva wrote:I wanted the other Aussie:/

Toohey?

(I wanted him just so I scream "I feel like a Tooheys or 2!!!")


Proctor, Cleveland got him:/
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Post#397 » by younggunsmn » Fri Jun 27, 2025 2:16 am

winforlose wrote:
younggunsmn wrote:
Domejandro wrote:He’s pretty far behind even players like Jesse Edwards when it comes to on-the-court impact, it’s just that he (hopefully) has significantly more upside.

Honestly, the team would benefit from getting him on a two-way, rather than wasting his cheap rookie-deal years on a season where he has no chance in hell of getting NBA minutes. Only real restriction is that he wouldn’t be able to play in the Playoffs, which would (God willing) never happen this season.


Nobody is behind Jesse Edwards in on-court impact.
I think the Jaylen Clarke two way was a bit of an aberration in that he was going to miss the whole season to injury and he was picked at 51.

The better path is to let him keep developing in Australia for a year or two.
The danger there is that he gets a big buck offer in Europe and all of a sudden you are no longer able to bring him over for your Hinkie special.

The Hinkie special (2nd round pick exception, rookie min 2+2 team options) could actually save us a mil against the tax this year.
And having a huge shotblocker with a 9'6.5 reach as your 3rd big is not the worst thing in the world either.

I think a 2 way is the worst option and I wouldnt leave him overseas for more than one year.
But thats just me.


Chris Finch loves Luka Garza. So much so that he would rather let Garza sabotage a game (happened multiple times,) then risk letting Leonard Miller try and play in competitive minutes. I don’t see Finch letting TC dump Garza for RZ. I personally think Garza is more mascot than player and a waste of a roster spot, but that is where we are. As for the Hinkie, cannot we keep RZ for two years as a two way, then Hinkie him for another 4?


I don't think so. I think the 2 way years count against a players restricted free agency, which you can only get up to year 4 I think.
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Re: Draft Day: Round 2 

Post#398 » by lewdog » Fri Jun 27, 2025 2:16 am

Has there ever been a productive, marginal Aussie player EVER in the history of the NBA?
I'm kind of thinking our young Rocco isn't going to be the first.
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Post#399 » by moss_is_1 » Fri Jun 27, 2025 2:17 am

4 picks left. Then we get to hear the camp invites and possible 2 way guys.
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Post#400 » by younggunsmn » Fri Jun 27, 2025 2:19 am

So what guards out there who are going to go undrafted that are worth a 2 way contract?

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