Prospect Watch Thread

shangrila · Post #41 » by **shangrila** » Wed Nov 17, 2010 8:25 am

Recap of recent games

Kyrie Irving: 13pts, 5rbds, 2asts
Seth Curry: 17pts, 2stls, 1rbd, 1ast, 3-4 from deep
Wally Judge: 3pts, 6rbds, 2asts
Jacob Pullen: 13pts, 1rbds, 3asts, 2stls
Jared Sullinger: 26pts, 10rbds, 2asts, 2stls, 13-17 from the field
William Burford: 16pts, 8asts, 1rbd, 3stls, 1blk
Patric Young: 2pts, 2rbds, 1blk in 12 minutes
Kawhi Leonard: 18pts, 12rbds, 3asts, 2stls, 1blk
Perry Jones III: 12pts, 11rbds, 4blks
Quincy Acy: 25pts, 11rbds, 2blks
Scotty Hopson: 18pts, 5rbds, 3asts
Tobias Harris: 16pts, 7rbds

Just looking at the numbers...Sullinger looks like an absolute beast, Acy looks nice, Leonard looks like a real stat stuffer, Buford looks like he's developed a lot from last year and Seth Curry can really shoot it, he might be one to keep an eye on as a "triangle point".

big3_8_19_21 · Post #42 » by **big3_8_19_21** » Wed Nov 17, 2010 9:28 am

Elias Harris putting up sub-par stats so far this season

shangrila · Post #43 » by **shangrila** » Thu Nov 18, 2010 9:03 am

Alec Burks' 2 games this season:

31 minutes, 5-13 FGs, 10-10 FTs, 0-1 3pts, 20pts, 2asts, 2 TOs, 3 PFs
35 minutes, 5-14 FGs, 11-15 FTs, 0-2 3pts, 21pts, 5rbds, 3asts, 3 TOs, 1stl, 4 PFs

He's looking really good so far this season. Looks like a real good prospect.

shangrila · Post #44 » by **shangrila** » Thu Nov 18, 2010 9:08 am

Recap of today:

Wesley Witherspoon - 24pts, 12rbds, 2asts, 2stls, 13-14 FTs
Will Barton - 22pts, 8rbds, 2asts, 3stls, 4 TOs, 4-7 3pts
Kemba Walker - 42pts, 8rbds, 3asts, 1stls, 15-24 FGs

Krapinsky · Post #45 » by **Krapinsky** » Fri Nov 19, 2010 3:48 pm

Thought this was interesting -

From a Tulabasket article in the Rubio thread about Rubio

His next target is the very young and athletic power forward of 18 newly enrolled at the University of Florida, Patric Young (2.09 m.).

Young still is not clear whether submitted to the next draft and that of 2012, but in both cases could be top-5.

More agile and faster than Darko Milicic and Nikola Pekovic, Khan believes that complement perfectly with Ricky.

shangrila · Post #46 » by **shangrila** » Sat Nov 20, 2010 8:08 am

They're really pushing Young lately. I wonder how much of it came from the FO and how much is just speculation.

hotshotschamp · Post #47 » by **hotshotschamp** » Sat Nov 20, 2010 8:22 am

patric young is so freaking raw and far away from the nba. He'd be a total nonfactor for a few years if he came out, which he won't.

he's not even good in college.

I watched Kentucky tonight. Brandon Knight can really ball WOW. So so so fast, he was beating his guy with ease, and his jumper is so sweet. He's not the pure PG of Kyrie Irving, but some team will love him, he could be another arenas type. He's just a beast.

Terrence Jones can also really play, great athlete. Kentucky has 2 one and done top 10 picks in those guys most likely.

jade_hippo · Post #48 » by **jade_hippo** » Sat Nov 20, 2010 10:40 am

hotshotschamp wrote:patric young is so freaking raw and far away from the nba. He'd be a total nonfactor for a few years if he came out, which he won't.

he's not even good in college.

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He's like Gerald Green meets Jihadi White. Raw does not even begin to describe him this is Michael Olowakandi Land here. He'll make the lottery on a single game where he nets a triple double and looks like Hakeem reborn.

shangrila · Post #49 » by **shangrila** » Sat Nov 20, 2010 11:08 am

The difference is he's not as dumb as a brick

AQuintus · Post #50 » by **AQuintus** » Sat Nov 20, 2010 11:00 pm

After last night's game vs the Lakers, I think that I'm going to set my sights on Perry and Terrance Jones. A long, athletic Power Forward would help this team so much both offensively and defensively, and Love can become a supersub at the 4 and 5 positions.

shangrila · Post #51 » by **shangrila** » Sun Nov 21, 2010 12:03 am

I don't think Love will accept a bench role, no matter the circumstances. So aiming for Jones would mean Love is gone long term.

Esohny · Post #52 » by **Esohny** » Sun Nov 21, 2010 12:04 am

Some sort of Love for Favors deal would be good for us. Not sure what we'd have to add to Love to get it done, if the Nets would do it at all.

Post #53 » by **Worm Guts** » Sun Nov 21, 2010 12:09 am

shangrila wrote:I don't think Love will accept a bench role, no matter the circumstances. So aiming for Jones would mean Love is gone long term.

I don't know, I think it depends on the circumstances. I'm sure Love would start over either initially, and if it turned out Jones was really good and the Wolves were really successful, Love might be fine coming off the bench.
Just because Love didn't like coming off the bench behind Ryan Hollins on a team that won 15 games doesn't mean he'll refuse to come off the bench in any situation.

Devilzsidewalk · Post #54 » by **Devilzsidewalk** » Sun Nov 21, 2010 12:30 am

as part of my secret contract I'm not allowed to endorse any Kevin Love trade, but from a fair value and fit standpoint, I think Thompson/Evans for Love/Flynn/Utah 1st/Memphis 1st could be good for all parties involved

AQuintus · Post #55 » by **AQuintus** » Sun Nov 21, 2010 12:32 am

shangrila wrote:I don't think Love will accept a bench role, no matter the circumstances. So aiming for Jones would mean Love is gone long term.

I may be remembering incorrectly, but I think he's said that he doesn't mind coming off of the bench as long as he has a defined role and he still gets minutes. As a supersub, he'd be getting starter minutes (30-35 mpg) while coming off of the bench.

Of course, he might have just been diplomatic and saying what fans want to hear. :-?

Edit:

Esohny wrote:Some sort of Love for Favors deal would be good for us. Not sure what we'd have to add to Love to get it done, if the Nets would do it at all.

I would absolutely love (no pun intended) a Love for Favors trade. You're right, though, I doubt that the Nets would do that trade straight up. A Love-Lopez frontcourt just wouldn't be good enough defensively. However, I think that it could work as part of a Carmelo to New Jersey trade. Love helps Denver win now more than Favors and he's probably a better fit next to Nene.

canucklife21 · Post #56 » by **canucklife21** » Sun Nov 21, 2010 9:29 pm

What other true centers are draft pick worthly? clearly a hole in our starting five.. also keep a eye our for alec burks yes we got wes at the two but this kid can hoop

Post #57 » by **Worm Guts** » Sun Nov 21, 2010 10:06 pm

I think Wes is more of a three than a two, but he seems to be doing alright so far at shooting guard. I still think a defensive center is important enough for us that I wouldn't draft a center high unless I thought he was better defensively than Darko. I think we need a 2nd guy that can create his own shot in the starting lineup, although Flynn could be that guy or maybe Rubio could make Johnson look like that guy.
I wouln't trade Love for Favors, we need Love's production.

shangrila · Post #58 » by **shangrila** » Sun Nov 21, 2010 11:58 pm

Worm Guts wrote:
shangrila wrote:I don't think Love will accept a bench role, no matter the circumstances. So aiming for Jones would mean Love is gone long term.

I don't know, I think it depends on the circumstances. I'm sure Love would start over either initially, and if it turned out Jones was really good and the Wolves were really successful, Love might be fine coming off the bench.
Just because Love didn't like coming off the bench behind Ryan Hollins on a team that won 15 games doesn't mean he'll refuse to come off the bench in any situation.

But he wasn't coming off the bench behind Ryan Hollins, he was coming off the bench behind Al Jefferson. I don't understand why no one can see that. He also did have a consistent role, as I believe he had 28mpg coming off the bench.

I think his real problem was that he was starting early on but got benched when Rambis got sick of the complete lack of defence in the front court.

shangrila · Post #59 » by **shangrila** » Mon Nov 22, 2010 12:07 am

AQuintus wrote:I may be remembering incorrectly, but I think he's said that he doesn't mind coming off of the bench as long as he has a defined role and he still gets minutes. As a supersub, he'd be getting starter minutes (30-35 mpg) while coming off of the bench.

Of course, he might have just been diplomatic and saying what fans want to hear.

I think it's all good to talk about him getting 30-35mpg, but where does it come from? There's no exactly an incredible amount of minutes if we're throwing another high minutes guy into a front court already with Darko, Pek, Love, Tolliver, Beasley and Webster/Johnson.

Post #60 » by **Worm Guts** » Mon Nov 22, 2010 12:10 am

shangrila wrote:
Worm Guts wrote:
shangrila wrote:I don't think Love will accept a bench role, no matter the circumstances. So aiming for Jones would mean Love is gone long term.

I don't know, I think it depends on the circumstances. I'm sure Love would start over either initially, and if it turned out Jones was really good and the Wolves were really successful, Love might be fine coming off the bench.
Just because Love didn't like coming off the bench behind Ryan Hollins on a team that won 15 games doesn't mean he'll refuse to come off the bench in any situation.

But he wasn't coming off the bench behind Ryan Hollins, he was coming off the bench behind Al Jefferson. I don't understand why no one can see that. He also did have a consistent role, as I believe he had 28mpg coming off the bench.

I think his real problem was that he was starting early on but got benched when Rambis got sick of the complete lack of defence in the front court.

Al Jefferson is a part time center, he's currently the starting center for the Jazz. A front court of Kevin Love and Al Jefferson is better than a frontcourt of Ryan Hollins and Al Jefferson. So yes, he was sitting behind Ryan Hollins.