Kevin Love Free Agency/Trade Thread

jade_hippo · Post #41 » by **jade_hippo** » Wed Nov 13, 2013 12:08 am

AQuintus wrote:
azncorruptedo17 wrote: endorsement deals in LA = hundreds of millions. endorsement deals in minny... wait what?

Yep. It's the reason that Ricky Rubio will never play for the Timberwolves.

I heard from a source in his inner circle he's only going to play for the Knicks

Murphs56 · Post #42 » by **Murphs56** » Wed Nov 13, 2013 4:03 am

I've come to the reality that Love is out of here after next season. The Kahn years certainly didn't help, neither did all the negative fan reaction to him last year both in social media and at the games. I'm sure it hurt

cpfsf · Post #43 » by **cpfsf** » Wed Nov 13, 2013 4:23 am

in respect to the woj article...duh? next you're going to tell me that the lakers have an interest in kevin love too. this story has been basically restated 100 times since love signed his extension. news flash: kevin love will be a free agent.

the_bruce · Post #44 » by **the_bruce** » Wed Nov 13, 2013 4:23 am

azncorruptedo17 wrote: endorsement deals in LA = hundreds of millions. endorsement deals in minny... wait what?

That's completely untrue. Companies willing to spend hundreds of millions on endorsements really don't care about the location of players. While there might be slightly more non national or local money available I think the pr people for athletes discourage it slightly as it dilutes the players endorsement value.

Post #45 » by **Klomp** » Wed Nov 13, 2013 4:30 am

cpfsf wrote:in respect to the woj article...duh? next you're going to tell me that the lakers have an interest in kevin love too. this story has been basically restated 100 times since love signed his extension. news flash: kevin love will be a free agent.

Pretty much.

But hey, I'm glad they're looking ahead to 2015. It worked so well the last time they planned two years in advance to woo a FA.

Post #46 » by **B Mac** » Wed Nov 13, 2013 5:20 am

Just wanted to pop in to say, sorry you guys have to go through this again. I dont know if Love is leaving or not, but even if he doesn't, it's a damn shame that you even have to have this conversation. You've been through it before, you'll go through it again. Obviously, I've gone through it before multiple times, and I'll unfortunately go through it again as well.

Such a big fan of the small market teams, and Im really pulling for you to keep your guy. Hopefully Love bucks the trend. We've got to stick together..

K0N · Post #47 » by **K0N** » Wed Nov 13, 2013 5:52 am

I'd really like to believe that K-Love won't be traded or leave and will stay, as I am a huge fan of his. Honestly I dont see him wanting to play for the Knicks.

Takingbaconback · Post #48 » by **Takingbaconback** » Wed Nov 13, 2013 7:57 am

I wouldn't mind just playing these next two seasons out and letting Love leave for nothing, but Rubio probably would not be on board for a rebuilding phase so Wolves are **** out of luck once again. It's so hard to be a fan of a small market team in the NBA. Just cheats the franchise off season, during the season, on the court, off the court. Why is there a draft lottery in the NBA anyways? Just going to open more doors for stupidass teams like the Lakers to have a chance to draft a big time player when the worst record deserves to. Just make things fair all across the board: officiating, draft order, hard salary cap, etc.

Post #49 » by **Basti** » Wed Nov 13, 2013 9:08 am

Murphs56 wrote:I've come to the reality that Love is out of here after next season. The Kahn years certainly didn't help, neither did all the negative fan reaction to him last year both in social media and at the games. I'm sure it hurt

If he can't take the criticism that arose last year then he's pretty weak. I'm not saying that he's the only one to blame but he played a huge role in it.

However, I like the fact that he apparently used the criticism to work on his game even harder.

southern wolf · Post #50 » by **southern wolf** » Wed Nov 13, 2013 10:56 am

I think if he's going anywhere, it will be LA. He's spent a lot of time there and he's never hidden his love for the place. Something about him tells me he'll stay in Minny, though (not the pasty whiteness). A lot of people might think he's cocky and will want to go to a big market team, but I think he'll want to do it his way and try to win in little ol' Minny.

Murphs56 · Post #51 » by **Murphs56** » Wed Nov 13, 2013 12:57 pm

southern wolf wrote:I think if he's going anywhere, it will be LA. He's spent a lot of time there and he's never hidden his love for the place. Something about him tells me he'll stay in Minny, though (not the pasty whiteness). A lot of people might think he's cocky and will want to go to a big market team, but I think he'll want to do it his way and try to win in little ol' Minny.

I thought same thing with Lebron. Dead wrong there and it was his home town.

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NewWolvesOrder · Post #52 » by **NewWolvesOrder** » Wed Nov 13, 2013 1:56 pm

Murphs56 wrote:
southern wolf wrote:I think if he's going anywhere, it will be LA. He's spent a lot of time there and he's never hidden his love for the place. Something about him tells me he'll stay in Minny, though (not the pasty whiteness). A lot of people might think he's cocky and will want to go to a big market team, but I think he'll want to do it his way and try to win in little ol' Minny.

I thought same thing with Lebron. Dead wrong there and it was his home town.

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It wasn't his hometown, just his home state, and the guy said it multiple times.

And he had a chance to create a super team with his friends. I think Love may be enticed to do the same, but then LA would have to preserve their cap space for one more year, but the best options would be Love, Rondo, Marc Gasol, and maybe Eric Gordon if we opt out, not exactly a super team.

Post #53 » by **Worm Guts** » Wed Nov 13, 2013 2:08 pm

Takingbaconback wrote:I wouldn't mind just playing these next two seasons out and letting Love leave for nothing,

That's a weird thing to say.

champalift · Post #54 » by **champalift** » Wed Nov 13, 2013 2:10 pm

It is really pretty simple. He is under contract with us at least through next season. If by next year trade deadline, we don't have an extension signed, move him to where ever we want. Who cares whether he wants to end up in NY, LA, or home to Portland, we want the best package available.
Why are we Wolves fans even discussing where we think Kevin would rather be? It doesn't matter where he wants to be if it isn't Minnesota. There are 25+ teams who would "love" the guy, so why we care about where he wants to end up is beyond me. It's like analyzing the guy your girlfriend would rather date, WTF? Sure, the trade package could be less if he publicly says "I only want to play in X" but that hasn't happened and as long as Flip makes clear we will not be trading him for anything, the team should be in the driver's seat.
Who cares that the Knicks are "planning" on trading for him. I am "planning" on winning the lottery today, buying the Timberwolves, then changing the team slogan from "United We Run" to "F Off Woj."

Post #55 » by **C.lupus** » Wed Nov 13, 2013 2:23 pm

I think it's good to have this thread as a single Love-future discussion portal but right now I'm going to be in the present and enjoy what looks like the first winning season in the last decade. Nothing new is going to happen this year so there isn't much need in speculating on what Love wants or doesn't want. And really what he wants or doesn't want will most likely change several time between now and then anyway.

Post #56 » by **Klomp** » Wed Nov 13, 2013 7:06 pm

C.lupus wrote:I think it's good to have this thread as a single Love-future discussion portal but right now I'm going to be in the present and enjoy what looks like the first winning season in the last decade. Nothing new is going to happen this year so there isn't much need in speculating on what Love wants or doesn't want. And really what he wants or doesn't want will most likely change several time between now and then anyway.

That was really my intent in starting this thread.

Takingbaconback · Post #57 » by **Takingbaconback** » Wed Nov 13, 2013 7:09 pm

Worm Guts wrote:
Takingbaconback wrote:I wouldn't mind just playing these next two seasons out and letting Love leave for nothing,

That's a weird thing to say.

Yeah sorry I phrased that pretty badly. I meant I would be willing to see the wolves push for a championship this season and next season, instead of blowing things up again after one season. Who knows how long it will take wolves to become relevant again without Love... Not sure that the package for a one year Love rental would be that great is my problem

Post #58 » by **Klomp** » Wed Nov 13, 2013 10:12 pm

AP Guy brings up an interesting point on Barreiro just now:

Kevin Love wants to be "the guy." He wanted to be here. Wanted to sign for 5 years. It wasn't until after the team said no to the 5 that he went for the opt-out. Did say though that Adelman retiring could affect it, as could another cursed season

"Does he want to go to NY to play with an aging Carmelo, or stay here and play with Ricky?"

The Wolves can also pay more than anyone else. "Love likes money...nothing wrong with that"

Everyone assumes he will opt-out in 15 just to recreate his market. But then he's foregoing a year already built into his deal.

Has made the media out to be the bad guy, more of a chip on his shoulder.

shrink · Post #59 » by **shrink** » Wed Nov 13, 2013 11:14 pm

Klomp wrote: Everyone assumes he will opt-out in 15 just to recreate his market. But then he's foregoing a year already built into his deal.

As I understand it, since he's already paid the max, he could opt out early and get the same max money for that year, but just gain the security of having more max years locked into his next deal, to protect him in case he had a career-ending injury. I think he opts out regardless, but that doesn't mean he doesn't stay here.

Post #60 » by **Klomp** » Wed Nov 13, 2013 11:31 pm

shrink wrote:
Klomp wrote: Everyone assumes he will opt-out in 15 just to recreate his market. But then he's foregoing a year already built into his deal.

As I understand it, since he's already paid the max, he could opt out early and get the same max money for that year, but just gain the security of having more max years locked into his next deal, to protect him in case he had a career-ending injury. I think he opts out regardless, but that doesn't mean he doesn't stay here.

I agree. Was just transcribing the radio interview